The Talga Bar
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Then your subconscious jokes similar to mine.Fun fact, when ever I see weight in units of lbs, or pounds, I read lbs with my inner voice as 'lobsters'. Fits perfectly too as lobsters are roughly half a kg.. just like lbs.. which is a fact i completely made up, just like my interpretation of the unit.From now on, whenever you see lbs as a unit, you will think of lobsters.. and don't get me started on lobsters force as a description of Rocket engine power....
Whenever I read about non-metric units I doubt their seriousness. And I don't even feel arrogant about it. There are hundreds of different foot measurements also historically and around the world. What foot do you mean?
With phones and TVs I already don't take it seriously and when it comes to one acre by one acre my brain is already somewhere else. I can't help it.
Fortunately, this is clearly regulated in my industry and metric is mandatory the standard language.
So if I should take the read seriously then I need for it more meaningfully serious units of measurement or however an understandable language.
a little tease when it comes to automotive: There are also so crazy people who drive on the wrong side of the road.I know from industry what that means, everything has to be designed and developed twice. Think of footprint.) But who am I telling?
Just another:
E = lbsc²
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I know from industry what that means, everything has to be designed and developed twice. Think of footprint.) But who am I telling?
Just another:
E = lbsc²
Lobster at light speed equals hunger.
Are you implying something in regard to Left Hand v Right Hand driving ?
How can you possibly steer a vehicle properly using your weaker left hand whilst changing gear with your stronger right hand ?
cosors
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I wouldn't dare!Are you implying something in regard to Left Hand v Right Hand driving ?
How can you possibly steer a vehicle properly using your weaker left hand whilst changing gear with your stronger right hand ?
Tell me, where did this ingenious gif come from, perhaps from a movie?
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And lo and behold TLG have changed auditors.......................we know what that means........
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I cant find it anywhere. I'd love to know. It's simply in the GIF section here under "laughing monkeys"
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Help me please. It's still early in the morning here.
WheresTheMonkey
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Look at the new announcement this afternoon on this site
Here https://thestockexchange.com.au/thr...form-14th-apr-2023-2-00pm.172610/#post-277945
cosors
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That shiploads of money are coming in soon?
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Ok, that video drove me down a memory hole on a series of board games I played with friends years ago. We had one game called "the atom bomb" or something.. and there was the perfect music to accompany it. Here is one from the playlist:
I love this type of dark humor hehe..
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It looks like they're going to try it either way. But it is their right.
"Hello!
Just in time for the Easter celebration, on April 5, 2023, the Land and Environmental Court in Umeå granted permission to Talga AB to mine 120,000 tons of graphite per year in Nunasvaara södra, a permission that extends until 2070. A rather long period of time.
What kind of environment will the area around Nunasvaara, including Rovasuando (island in the river to the south => google mapps Rovasuando), be for our children who may want to stay in the cabins, be in nature, enjoy fishing, berry picking etc. just like we are allowed to do and have been allowed to do so far? What will the environment be like in the area in 2070 if the judgment becomes law?
It is worrying that MMD grants Talga's application so easily, at the same time that Talga submitted applications for exploration permits for connecting ore bodies in Nunasvaara north and Niska which further affect areas by the Vittangiälven.
Talga themselves are completely open that the deposits are connected. Test drilling shows a link between Niska north and south - Talgagroup SV. Not so long ago, another letter steamed into the mailbox, now it is not only Talga that shows interest in minerals in the same area, but also Northern x minerals, which has been granted an exploration permit for deposits that basically cover the entire Rovasuando area and more besides (It is found that look at Bergstaten's website Prospecting in Sweden (sgu.se) select the map and zoom in on the area around Torneälven.
It is the combined effects that must be tested for the environmentally hazardous activities, so there should therefore be a requirement that the application cover the entire planned quarrying. At least for the respective operators, even if negative environmental effects occur regardless of who causes them. Could it be that if Talga gets a permit for Nunasvaara Södra, their future permit applications and also the future applications of other stakeholders will be facilitated?
We who are directly affected by our properties being destroyed by the environment around us being polluted by vibrations, noise and dust, we who want to be able to stay in nature without it being colored by soot, we who want to be able to fish in the river without worrying us for what the fish contains, we can come together and make our voices heard.
Those of you who are interested in doing just this, by joining together and filing an appeal, are welcome to read the judgment that was announced on Wednesday, it is attached to this email.
It is our democratic right to appeal, however, it is important that we can make relevant points of view on the judgment in order for the appeal to be taken up for examination at the Land and Environment Court of Appeal, which requires leave to appeal in order to take up a case. Trial permit - The Land and Environmental Court of Appeal at Svea Court of Appeal*
The verdict can be appealed until April 26.
If you are interested in being involved and in the form of an affected property owner within the area of influence being involved and appealing, you are welcome to respond with your name, the property you represent and what you believe is wrong with the judgment. We would like to have this information by April 20 at the latest in order to prepare an appeal.
If you don't want to comment but still stand behind an appeal, that is of course also fine. In such cases, just send your name and property designation and we will enter you in the document.
Email the information to this email, gruvinformation@gmail.com and we will make sure to compile and send in the appeal. You will receive a copy of the appeal before it is submitted.
Please spread this information to others who may be affected but do not have access to an email address.
It is fine to comment with your email address in the comment field and you will receive the verdict and the information.
Etc. E. B. and H. R."
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1454936734890940/?_rdr
*The link to the court mentioned in this post above with the instructions on the appeals process, nothing we don't already know:
https://www.domstol.se/mark--och-miljooverdomstolen/provningstillstand/
Note that this person mixes two processes! Someone has already contacted her, but he has to do with this Northern x and lives there.
This does not sound very promising to me.) Let it be...
I think that no human being lives on or near the mine of Talga. But the opponent talks about how directly they are affected. The nearest house is down at the river. And @beserk is that the home of these Sami there is always talk of village although probably an area is meant (in Kiruna ~70Km away)?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Tal...7d3f5623785f!2m2!1d20.235628!2d67.8569601!1m0
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" I think that no human being lives on or near the mine of Talga. But the opponent talks about how directly they are affected. The nearest house is down at the river. And @beserk is that the home of these Sami there is always talk of village although probably an area is meant (in Kiruna ~70Km )"
Well I understand the strongest claims for an appeal in the Swedish legal context comes from parties that are directly affected by for instance the operations of a mine on their doorstep.
The Talma reindeer owners are a special ace in the deck of cards not being played until case has progressed to SC, ie the final court of arbitration .
But in the mean time the organisers of this FB group is trying to get responses from local summer house owners in Rova suanto, the part of the Torne river immediately upstream of the bridge that carries the graphite mined across the river.
Rova suanto was like other stretches of quiet waters along the Torne river valley were used as a semi permanent fishing camps in the early 1600s by settlers originating 200 km further down stream in the Torne river valley. The river was the only way the interior could be accessed by the settlers.
Of course the Sàmi used their all terrain transport vehicles, their reindeer caravans, and suffered no such limitations. Vittangi suanto is another fish rich stretch of slow flowing water 9 km down stream. It so happens that it is here my family has got our summer house.
But Rova suanto unlike Vittangi suanto was never settled permanently, V-gi was settled by 1674. Why does this historical fact matter today?
The Cultivation Border or Odlings gränsen, that today separates areas where reindeer husbandry dominates from the other area where agricultural practises brought along by Finnish speaking settlers does.This border is there to bring order to competing land use claims.
So the anti Talga brigade, quite a few ironically originating from Vittangi, are now scrounging along for support among V-gi folk that have got a semi permanent hold on land at Rova suanto where the historical border of conflict divides up the land.
This is my analysis of the situation being able to step back from all the underlying fermenting conflicts between competing interests. And being party to it. Albeit from afar.
So essentially there are three, if not more parties, the Talma Sàmi, the conservative pro mining, pro jobs faction of V-gi villagers, the holiday house owners in nearby Rova suanto, joined by a cabal of old hippies, greenies, both local and fly ins, political activists, and we hope not, St Greta the second Jean D'Arc, joining the fight against the spectre of GREEN COLONIALISM.
A rather confusing battle field for Talga to manouver in. Hope we have got capable advisers.
And a last thing, my family in addition to the property in Vittangi suanto, own property in Rova suanto and we definitively fall into the pro mining faction of Vittangi villagers. The summer houses in Rova suanto are tightly held within original Vittangi families that have lived in Vittangi since early 1700 or 1800.
These properties are treasured because they are the last border outposts. Beyond the border superior classes of Sàmi rule. And the reindeer roam.Freely. For now.
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Well I understand the strongest claims for an appeal in the Swedish legal context comes from parties that are directly affected by for instance the operations of a mine on their doorstep.
The Talma reindeer owners are a special ace in the deck of cards not being played until case has progressed to SC, ie the final court of arbitration .
But in the mean time the organisers of this FB group is trying to get responses from local summer house owners in Rova suanto, the part of the Torne river immediately upstream of the bridge that carries the graphite mined across the river.
Rova suanto was like other stretches of quiet waters along the Torne river valley were used as a semi permanent fishing camps in the early 1600s by settlers originating 200 km further down stream in the Torne river valley. The river was the only way the interior could be accessed by the settlers.
Of course the Sàmi used their all terrain transport vehicles, their reindeer caravans, and suffered no such limitations. Vittangi suanto is another fish rich stretch of slow flowing water 9 km down stream. It so happens that it is here my family has got our summer house.
But Rova suanto unlike Vittangi suanto was never settled permanently, V-gi was settled by 1674. Why does this historical fact matter today?
The Cultivation Border or Odlings gränsen, that today separates areas where reindeer husbandry dominates from the other area where agricultural practises brought along by Finnish speaking settlers does.This border is there to bring order to competing land use claims.
So the anti Talga brigade, quite a few ironically originating from Vittangi, are now scrounging along for support among V-gi folk that have got a semi permanent hold on land at Rova suanto where the historical border of conflict divides up the land.
This is my analysis of the situation being able to step back from all the underlying fermenting conflicts between competing interests. And being party to it. Albeit from afar.
So essentially there are three, if not more parties, the Talma Sàmi, the conservative pro mining, pro jobs faction of V-gi villagers, the holiday house owners in nearby Rova suanto, joined by a cabal of old hippies, greenies, both local and fly ins, political activists, and we hope not, St Greta the second Jean D'Arc, joining the fight against the spectre of GREEN COLONIALISM.
A rather confusing battle field for Talga to manouver in. Hope we have got capable advisers.
And a last thing, my family in addition to the property in Vittangi suanto, own property in Rova suanto and we definitively fall into the pro mining faction of Vittangi villagers. The summer houses in Rova suanto are tightly held within original Vittangi families that have lived in Vittangi since early 1700 or 1800.
These properties are treasured because they are the last border outposts. Beyond the border superior classes of Sàmi rule. And the reindeer roam.Freely. For now.
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Another reveal....in addition to the ceremonial intricately adorned reindeer marking knife, my father left me the Arkenstone of my family.
"It was a globe with a thousand facets; it shone like silver in the firelight, like water in the sun, like snow under the stars, like rain upon the Moon!"
THORIN OAKENSHIELD
My own Moonstone I have had transferred from the signet ring my father carried hidden on a chain around his neck to a Sámi designed wristband adorned with pewter thread and the stone fixed in place by a setting of silver.
Tack pappa!
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"It was a globe with a thousand facets; it shone like silver in the firelight, like water in the sun, like snow under the stars, like rain upon the Moon!"
THORIN OAKENSHIELD
My own Moonstone I have had transferred from the signet ring my father carried hidden on a chain around his neck to a Sámi designed wristband adorned with pewter thread and the stone fixed in place by a setting of silver.
Tack pappa!
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Iron ore has been my families legacy for some time. My father worked in the Kirunavaara iron ore mine works...
One surprising place that Iron ore from Kiruna mine has found its way to is the UN sky scraper on Manhattans upper east side.
As you enter the building you were able to access the Room of Quiet...a multifaith room for contemplation.
In the room you were met with this 6 tonnes solid object...like something out of Stanley Kubricks master piece Space Odyssey...
www.un.org
The altar is a solid slab of polished magnetite Fe³O⁴.
And it was donated by LKAB in the 1950ies to humanity.
Maybe a solid piece of Nunasvaara graphite could soon adorn the Great Hall of the New Kiruna City community centre namned Kristallen? Maybe polished into diamond facett? Or a buckminsterfullerene buckyball?
Now there is an attractive thought!
-beserk
One surprising place that Iron ore from Kiruna mine has found its way to is the UN sky scraper on Manhattans upper east side.
As you enter the building you were able to access the Room of Quiet...a multifaith room for contemplation.
In the room you were met with this 6 tonnes solid object...like something out of Stanley Kubricks master piece Space Odyssey...
Meditation Room | United Nations Gifts
The Meditation Room, sometimes called “A Room of Quiet”, was opened in 1952 and then renovated in 1957. Dag Hammarskjöld himself championed much of the design of the space. Sweden donated the 6-ton iron ore stone altar as a sign of permanence in a world of change. The 12 benches were designed by...
The altar is a solid slab of polished magnetite Fe³O⁴.
And it was donated by LKAB in the 1950ies to humanity.
Maybe a solid piece of Nunasvaara graphite could soon adorn the Great Hall of the New Kiruna City community centre namned Kristallen? Maybe polished into diamond facett? Or a buckminsterfullerene buckyball?
Now there is an attractive thought!
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Something for your entertainment. I am deliberately omitting the name of the poster and the source.)
"And destroy 4 rivers! IF they get permission. Large factories near the Hertsön district and a cottage area and harbour for leisure boats...Yes, yes....graphite mining is intended to be in the middle of the Torne River and the Vittangi River. In the centre of the community of Vittangi, the Vittangi River merges with the Torne River. A pristine river, water source for many, the water affects 4 rivers before it reaches the Gulf of Bothnia. So no thanks! Talga - Look somewhere else! Nobody reacts, why is a Spanish company building its factory? We bow and thank them for everything. Then the factories are sold on..China? Bankruptcy? Who is cleaning up? Think again. Let's see if this "submission" can stay?"
response: "Well spoken!"
No translation error. I checked it twice.
So that there are no misunderstandings, no, that's not coming from me either.
But don't worry 138 others really like the plan in Lulea.)
And at least one good thing is that the money stays in Spain and thus in the EU.)
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And how the person comes up with four rivers is also a mystery to me. Perhaps she means the two rivulets to the north and south of the area, both of which to seem mostly dry.
https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/the-talga-bar.13637/post-106664
"And destroy 4 rivers! IF they get permission. Large factories near the Hertsön district and a cottage area and harbour for leisure boats...Yes, yes....graphite mining is intended to be in the middle of the Torne River and the Vittangi River. In the centre of the community of Vittangi, the Vittangi River merges with the Torne River. A pristine river, water source for many, the water affects 4 rivers before it reaches the Gulf of Bothnia. So no thanks! Talga - Look somewhere else! Nobody reacts, why is a Spanish company building its factory? We bow and thank them for everything. Then the factories are sold on..China? Bankruptcy? Who is cleaning up? Think again. Let's see if this "submission" can stay?"
response: "Well spoken!
"No translation error. I checked it twice.
So that there are no misunderstandings, no, that's not coming from me either.
But don't worry 138 others really like the plan in Lulea.)
And at least one good thing is that the money stays in Spain and thus in the EU.)
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And how the person comes up with four rivers is also a mystery to me. Perhaps she means the two rivulets to the north and south of the area, both of which to seem mostly dry.
https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/the-talga-bar.13637/post-106664
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I think the lower picture is better. The upper one is more understandable for insiders like you. And if you add a US gear to the Swedish one on the left it will fit the big meeting soon in Lulea.)
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