AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

Makala is calling you!

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Alingete resents Adèle Kayinda with unreliable reports in COMMINIERE case​

ADMIN DECEMBER 5, 2022 3 MIN READ

A fake news industry set up to destabilize Princess Adèle Kayinda
As the elections approach, the industry of fake news, cabals and gratuitous accusations are running at full speed. From this industry came a shameless accusation fomented for the sole purpose of smearing and tarnishing the honor of the Minister of State in charge of the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda, pillar of the government for the reform of public enterprises.
A group of twelve NGOs wanted to offer the skin of the min'Etat to the Portfolio by relaying, in a press release, fake news according to which Adèle Kayinda actively participated in the selling off of the Congolese exploitation's heritage. mining (COMMINIERE), a public company whose shares are shared between the government (90%) and the National Social Security Fund (10%).
Thus, these NGOs called for the dismissal of Adèle Kayinda.
Sleuths believe that this press release constitutes an “attempt at media lynching made in a language of despair to undermine the image, dignity and honor of Princess Adèle Kayinda”.
They explained that concerning the COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) and other authorized public structures, reports drawn up and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for decisions which impose.
None of these investigations, affirmed concordant sources, concluded on the implication of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the selling off of the heritage of this public company.
They recalled that by decision of the Prime Minister, Sama Lukonde, public companies have been authorized to associate with private capital or foreign direct investment (FDI), through joint ventures, for the development of strategic minerals.
“It is this reform, led by Adèle Kayinda within COMMINIERE, which is pushing under-informed people to cry out, without reason, for the selling off of this public company”, our sources maintained.
And to specify:
"When one knows the functioning of the structures of the government of the Republic, it is unwise to consider that a minister, even a minister of state, has the power to initiate alone such a reform which affects the life of the State, public finances and the lives of citizens on major mining projects that take an average of 30 years to complete”.

 

[Remark]

 

[Charbella]

Modeste Bahati Lukwebo is the president of the senate and a pillar of the Union Sacrée.

Our lovely friend the bitch of portfolio is part of the AFDC too.

Interesting.

Even her own party has given up on her?

 

[Samus]

She's still claiming AVZ has done nothing.
How stupid is that when all the documentation is publicly available!
Surely even DRC isn't corrupt enough for this to have any legs to stand on.

 

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[tonster66]

Good morning everyone. In the last few days, my last hope has somehow gone. The matter has become a political issue and AVZ can only lose there. It's amazing what a large amount of capital is lost among the shareholders

dont think that will happen. They are trying to address corruption, this scenario will only feed in to the narrative of the political opposition.

 

[wombat74]

I've never been so scared for my money as I am these days

LOL . That would be Chinese Yuan . Peter Clark . You should have gone with Tom Smith .

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

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Alingete resents Adèle Kayinda with unreliable reports in COMMINIERE case​

ADMIN DECEMBER 5, 2022 3 MIN READ

A fake news industry set up to destabilize Princess Adèle Kayinda
As the elections approach, the industry of fake news, cabals and gratuitous accusations are running at full speed. From this industry came a shameless accusation fomented for the sole purpose of smearing and tarnishing the honor of the Minister of State in charge of the Portfolio, Adèle Kayinda, pillar of the government for the reform of public enterprises.
A group of twelve NGOs wanted to offer the skin of the min'Etat to the Portfolio by relaying, in a press release, fake news according to which Adèle Kayinda actively participated in the selling off of the Congolese exploitation's heritage. mining (COMMINIERE), a public company whose shares are shared between the government (90%) and the National Social Security Fund (10%).
Thus, these NGOs called for the dismissal of Adèle Kayinda.
Sleuths believe that this press release constitutes an “attempt at media lynching made in a language of despair to undermine the image, dignity and honor of Princess Adèle Kayinda”.
They explained that concerning the COMMINIERE, investigations were carried out both by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) and other authorized public structures, reports drawn up and presented to the Prime Minister for assessment and for decisions which impose.
None of these investigations, affirmed concordant sources, concluded on the implication of the person of Adèle Kayinda in the selling off of the heritage of this public company.
They recalled that by decision of the Prime Minister, Sama Lukonde, public companies have been authorized to associate with private capital or foreign direct investment (FDI), through joint ventures, for the development of strategic minerals.
“It is this reform, led by Adèle Kayinda within COMMINIERE, which is pushing under-informed people to cry out, without reason, for the selling off of this public company”, our sources maintained.
And to specify:
"When one knows the functioning of the structures of the government of the Republic, it is unwise to consider that a minister, even a minister of state, has the power to initiate alone such a reform which affects the life of the State, public finances and the lives of citizens on major mining projects that take an average of 30 years to complete”.

Hang on so all the independent reports and media articles calling out her corrupt dealings are just fake news? So her signature on dodgy deals are fake?

She's still claiming AVZ has done nothing.
How stupid is that when all the documentation is publicly available!
Surely even DRC isn't corrupt enough for this to have any legs to stand on.

"Surely even DRC isn't corrupt enough for this to have any legs to stand on"

And yet they probably are.

Good morning everyone. In the last few days, my last hope has somehow gone. The matter has become a political issue and AVZ can only lose there. It's amazing what a large amount of capital is lost among the shareholders

Let me fix this for you:

"Good morning everyone except AVZ shareholders."

I've started the search for your last hope.

 

[Charbella]

no they giving her back up. saying alingete (IGF) wants to discredit her and shoot against him. I just thinking the last few hours about that shit with the following thoughts:

-avz waiting for the mining license since may 2021, spend 100 million in the project and have a partner with enought money to develop the project since september 2021
--> avz ready to go for over one year now and only waiting for the license, taxes for the DRC and benefit for the people of manono

-but instead a lot of people say avz have done nothing, a important minister gives a fuck about a legal 15% deal with dathomir, but selling illegal 15% to zijin for peanuts and praise zijin as the rescue hero of the project. What the fuck is wrong with you?!
--> the two guys from cominiere who give the power station for free to zijin, blocked avz and helped her, are getting arrested after months of knowledge, the prime minister think everything she is doing is ok for him instead of talking about the real facts that she sold 15% cheap to zijin and 5% free to MMCS. To left the DRC with 5%. Unbelievable, i wonder why he is compliant with that shit. a rogue who thinks evil

-this prime minister was a general manager of a big corrupt company and was appointed to this position from the President Felix in 2019 and appointed to the prime minister in 2021

-the minister of portfolio dont get fired by the president or the prime minister after accusing of missmanagment by the toothless tiger the IGF, instead she shooting against the IGF and a lot NGOs, because she is a beautiful christian princess who did not doing anything wrong

-cami blocked us too, we dont really know why, maybe because of the nothern tenement, maybe because of the who owns what problem
--> but the interesting thing is, when this is true, why did nobody say anyhing agains the DG of cami? President? Prime Minister? Minister of Mines? and solve that problem that all partys can benefit

Ok, one thing is sure, their real motivation is not to help their country, they would all act in a complete different way when this would be the case.

Against AVZ:

-No person of the government ever had a good word for us or said they would help us.
-We lost all court cases against zijin or dathomir
-AVZ never talked about the problems, for the pain of the shareholders, which brings us in this situation
-after 7 months no timetable for a close solution
-big boys have enought money for the long game, we not and spending more than 20 million per quarter
-a lot of fluffy unicorns over the last few years, last unicorns given to us a few weeks ago at the roadshows

Pro Avz:

-Main sponsor of the Mining Week 2023
-contract with one of the richest man (nr. 225) on earth, who hopefully have a idea to help us
-money for construction when license is really given
-clarke 100% confident of sez and collaboration agreement and Nigel confident of trading again soon ( 7 weeks ago, fluffy unicorn again?)
-the cominiere block maybe removed now???

Possibilities:

1. Drc gives a fuck and screw us over, they will find other companies that will invest, no australien, maybe no europe but there will always be a chinese one. The DRC image will damage, but they still have no good image, so who cares? in the end they say its our fault. illegal acquirement
2. AVZ really get the mining license, but after 20/7 months i have my doubts about this now
3. behind the scences they give us a chance to sell it cheap
4. they will drag it as long as possibile until we got delisted or give up to sell it cheap, but this could take more than a year from now. and the question....will anybody buy it when we are in suspension?

1. they pineappled us the hard way 2. hopefully 3. shit but we get some money back 4. super frustrating shit to wait so long to get some money back

For the moment no chance of find out whats really going on, only have some unicorns and a few wink winks.

Conclusion: Mindfuck, waiting for extension after extension after extension after extension to have a solution one day. Or maybe tomorrow? In this time everyone get headache of finding some informations on twitter until hopefully not the first suicides begins (german forum guy or girl spokes about this in a way that seemed serious -.-)

so nigel cmon! what ever you and the management have done to bring us in this situation, you said you only need to pay the surface rights in may! people relied on it that this is the truth! some are beginning to become mentally unhealthy and in a part you are responsible for it!

Mate, go back and read the tweet again from the party communicator. He is clearly condemning her for challenging Alingete’s report in public.

 

[LOCKY82]

Jesus this 7sur7 crowd are having a right crack God loves a trier

Mine de lithium de Manono - Violations du contrat de JV par AVZ : la COMINIERE a le droit de récupérer les droits miniers qui font l’objet de son apport (tribune)

Selon l'annonce de AVZ à la bourse australienne (ASX), AVZ a soumis l'étude de faisabilité finale de Dathcom au ministère des Mines en avril 2021 et a reçu l'avis favorable du ministère des Mines.

7sur7.cd

 

[Charbella]

The french german translation is that alingete( igf) using untrustworthy reports to make a offense against MoP. And a other site written that lukonde have proof the igf report and made the decision she is not part of the problem. Mhhh, something lost in any of our translations?


Edit: yes the sentence from the communicator ist lost in german, it’s against MoP. You are right. Just wondered. But the articles all written pro MoP. That she is a princess and never would do anything bad. And lukonde giving her back up

I wouldn’t worry too much about the article clearly paid for and written by an author called Admin.

When her own party’s communicator calls her out during this sensitive time, specially with the arrest of a senior executive on the same day. Something is not adding up

 

[Samus]

Mrs. Kayinda must resign and put herself at the disposal of justice as did Mr. Vidiye Tshimanga. She participated in the sellout as told by IGF
@ALINGETEJULES_K
. Kas is connected to the source of truth

 

[Hemicuda]

Good morning everyone. In the last few days, my last hope has somehow gone. The matter has become a political issue and AVZ can only lose there. It's amazing what a large amount of capital is lost among the shareholders

 

[Remark]

I've never been so scared for my money as I am these days

I think you meant - 我从来没有像现在这样害怕我的钱

 

[Bin59]

More bad news for Princess …

https://foxtimes.cd/publications/5148-rdc-l-acaj-denonce-la-pression-du-ministere-de-portefeuille-sur-la-sctp-pour-obtenir-le-paiement-indu-de-pres-de-usd-43-millions-a-agemi-et-de-usd-7-millions-a-imd-document-

In a press release made public today, the president of the Congolese Association for Access to Justice ACAJ in the acronym Georges Kapiamba, warns about the convening this Monday, December 5, 2022 of a meeting of all directors at the Ministry of the Portfolio on the file of AGEMI and IMD companies demanding from the SCTP undue payments already denounced by the General Inspectorate of Finance

This NGO, which defends human rights, deplores this attitude, which does not care much about the financial and operational difficulties of society.

"ACAJ is all the more concerned about the attitude of the board of directors, which does not care about the company's financial and operational difficulties. Instead, he continues to put pressure on the SCTP Branch to obtain the urgent payment of +/- USD 43 million to AGEMI and +/- USD 7 million to IMD," denounces the NGO ACAJ led by Georges Kapiamba

And to add:

"This carelessness risks irretrievably mortgage the recovery of the SCTP faced in particular with the challenges, not only of payroll, but also the settlement of attendance tokens following the frequent and unjustified convening of board meetings, sometimes 4 in a month," he concluded

The ACAAJ continues by stressing that, in a quasi-bankruptcy company, it is incomprehensible that each administrator touches the USD presence token title. 8,200 per meeting; and that each meeting results in disbursements of +/- USD 120,000.

In addition, the ACAAJ calls on the Congolese State, the Single Shareholder of the SCTP, to put an end to this financial bleeding whose foundations are in disharmoniousness, on the one hand with the policy of the "People of First" and, on the other hand, hinder the recovery efforts of this society whose impact on the social and economic development of the DRC

BLAISE BAYOMBO

 

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