AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

"Zijin will have to pay up for construction /infrastructure."

This is precisely the issue if Zijin are involved. They wont pay. They will stall and challenge any decision made by management or the BOD. Failing this they will tie up AVZ up in litigation for BS reasons all in an attempt to siphon funds away and cripple the project. You think whats happening now is a shit show? You see just how deep the shit show can go if Zijin get a foot in the door on this project.

Well then the DRC can kiss their battery industry goodbye if that type of shit is allowed to stall the project. Can't imagine CATL or the DRC government would tolerate that behaviour for very long. There is no chance other investors will go near the DRC if that is the type of 'business climate' that is allowed after we poured in millions of dollars to prove the resource.

Today's announcement points to us being no closer to having a resolution to the voluntary suspension after more than enough extensions for management to sort out the issues in a reasonable timeframe. Hopefully the roadshows are because they have a trick up their sleeve or the ASX has given them the wind up.

Either way this stock needs to trade ASAP. It is making a mockery of how the market should work and is just management trying to avoid the share price going down because they over promised and under delivered. They need to feel the heat from shareholders that are losing money because of their actions. At least it would give an opportunity for those without enough shares to get invited to the exclusive roadshow a chance to top up.

 

[TDITD]

Surely we should have had an announcement regarding drc tribunal decision on 20 Sept!?

Exactly so why say something now? A month to the day later?
This maybe the first of a flurry of announcements to come…..I maybe Klaus Eckhoff
I reckon it’s more likely boatman with his buddy who in no way has any connection or knowledge of boatman

 

[Onthefm]

If Zijin get the 15% I don't think the DRC gov would be too pleased if they stall the project any longer . What about Cath and their 24% . Don't think they will be too pleased either . Zijin has a JV with Ivanhoe that works . If AVZ have the controlling 51% they can start developing the project regardless .My concern is more with Cong and the CAMI prick.

I agree just give the prick 30 mill. It's a cheep way to confirm 75% imo. Then there can be no dispute.

 

[JAG]

With all this doom and gloom I'm going to LADIES NIGHT

 

[Xerof]

What REALLY fucks me off is that if Tittle Tattle Tom is to be believed, he got tipped off about the DATHOMIR Tribunal outcome, asked some questions, and once again, AVZ have been forced to come clean with the information.

I don’t care if AVZ think it’s immaterial and of no effect, just let us know on a timely basis. They are starting to look a bit silly, being called out by Mr Cut and Paste for a second time.

@Der Geist, were you aware of the Tribunal outcome? @R2D2, were you?

 

[TDITD]

With investor confidence so far down the drain, it's hard to imagine whats going to stop this from getting ravaged when it opens. No doubt will be an over reaction but its going to take some god tier news to prevent a sell off. I'd say thats all these roadshows are. AVZ likely will need to resume trading, and want to settle investors before that. Sadly don't think theres going to be any great news related to the roadshows anymore. Would love to be wrong.
I think we are all a little guilty of having the wool pulled over our eyes. Thousands of investors will be absolutely done with DRC investments.

Yes investor confidence is shot there is no way of hiding that. I cannot believe these guys would be so out of touch as to arrive at a roadshow with promises and think we will swallow that tired old shite they have been repeating for years now. I’m expecting some positive news, when does ol Felix get back from spruiking the DRC ? That could be an interesting time ?

 

[TDITD]

With all this doom and gloom I'm going to LADIES NIGHT

not for all the alcohol in the world

 

[TDITD]

What REALLY fucks me off is that if Tittle Tattle Tom is to be believed, he got tipped off about the DATHOMIR Tribunal outcome, asked some questions, and once again, AVZ have been forced to come clean with the information.

I don’t care if AVZ think it’s immaterial and of no effect, just let us know on a timely basis. They are starting to look a bit silly, being called out by Mr Cut and Paste for a second time.

@Der Geist, were you aware of the Tribunal outcome? @R2D2, were you?

Ummmm really Xerox did u just ask the same person twice
Has Tom been crowing ? I need to check the bird

 

[TDITD]

Does AVZ really care that much about boatman and that smarmly little fuck tommy.. I don’t think so.. we (investors) have read and understand the boatman report is bullshit.. something else is about to Happen

Tommy really does have that weasel look doesn’t he, what a surprise he is one. It would be nice if this was the start of a flurry of announcements leading upto our ML before the roadshow.

 

[JAG]

*Sorry to here that Johnno, We have plenty to spare over here in the East with more to come that we don't need or want atm

Most of this ( 100mm + fell in 24 Hrs )

A case of Rain - Rain Go Away atm

Enough is Enough


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Looking out my Front Door the other Day it was like this

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GLTA-AVZH's

Cheers

Frank

At least the car looks clean mate

 

[ChrisU]

What REALLY fucks me off is that if Tittle Tattle Tom is to be believed, he got tipped off about the DATHOMIR Tribunal outcome, asked some questions, and once again, AVZ have been forced to come clean with the information.

I don’t care if AVZ think it’s immaterial and of no effect, just let us know on a timely basis. They are starting to look a bit silly, being called out by Mr Cut and Paste for a second time.

@Der Geist, were you aware of the Tribunal outcome? @R2D2, were you?

I’m not in the loop. In fact, I didn’t realise he was tipped off, but you’re right.
It seems Boatman has a decent contact in the Congo.

 

[JAG]

Sorry Jag. Your comment is too cryptic for me. Please elaborate? Surely BOD won't do roadshows w/o prior positive ASX announcements?

 

[ptlas]

I agree just give the prick 30 mill. It's a cheep way to confirm 75% imo. Then there can be no dispute.

Do that and we prove that we can be blackmailed.
Others will line up.
Govt will continue to do fuck all for as long as it suits and maybe say it's our fault for dancing with the devil.

This is the government's mess to sort.
If left alone, they will eventually do so and leave AVZ with a rump company or territory.
Only because the slimmey shits will have carved up the snacks
Then that fat fuck FT will be swanning around the Western world with a big hard on.
Cunt
US and Europeans won't care about ownership. They just want lithium.
And don't kid yourself that it's about supply security.
Western car manufacturers are investing in Chinese factories.
And as for NF
Don't get me started.
The mogadon kid

 

[Mr Clean]

First post - but long time poster on the crapper.

With arbitration proceeding, does that mean you’re one ball short from now on?

 

[Roon]

What REALLY fucks me off is that if Tittle Tattle Tom is to be believed, he got tipped off about the DATHOMIR Tribunal outcome, asked some questions, and once again, AVZ have been forced to come clean with the information.

I don’t care if AVZ think it’s immaterial and of no effect, just let us know on a timely basis. They are starting to look a bit silly, being called out by Mr Cut and Paste for a second time.

@Der Geist, were you aware of the Tribunal outcome? @R2D2, were you?

It does seem to me like this is what happened though. Surely AVZ was aware through its local contacts and law team that Dathomir was awarded the tribunal decision. It also seems to me like they were planning to sweep it under the rug and not mention it, like they did with the last tribunal decision and like they seem to have done with everything that doesn't suit our interests (e.g Zijin) until their hands were forced. This announcement really appears thrown together around limited facts and at a strange time remove from the things it's detailing - like they have been questioned about it and thought well okay now we have to inform the market- which ties in perfectly with what Tommy says about this only happening after AFR questioned AVZ about the tribunal results.

It really isn't a good look IMO, and reinforces my concerns about the company's disclosure track record. Which really is woeful given any critical examination of the earlier timeline on Dathomir and Zijin issues.

Poor form.

 

[ptlas]

Do that and we prove that we can be blackmailed.
Others will line up.
Govt will continue to do fuck all for as long as it suits and maybe say it's our fault for dancing with the devil.

This is the government's mess to sort.
If left alone, they will eventually do so and leave AVZ with a rump company or territory.
Only because the slimmey shits will have carved up the snacks
Then that fat fuck FT will be swanning around the Western world with a big hard on.
Cunt
US and Europeans won't care about ownership. They just want lithium.
And don't kid yourself that it's about supply security.
Western car manufacturers are investing in Chinese factories.
And as for NF
Don't get me started.
The mogadon kid

Right rant over
Back under my stone
But first apologies to the girls for comparing your downstairs bits to Mr lying smug face .

 

[Xerof]

Sama has higher priorities…..FFS

 

[Rediah]

So we should be expecting another seperate announcement later today like the last time on, "arbitration proceedings and investigations update" ?

Here I knew something was amiss

Management thinks SHs are naive and giving their own spin on things which we have to defend against boatman and co. and look really stupid doing so.

 

[Nbaz]

Here I knew something was amiss

Management thinks SHs are naive and giving their own spin on things which we have to defend against boatman and co. and look really stupid doing so.

So the way I read today's announcement was;

DRC courts have said the deal between AVZ and Dothomire has nothing to do with us, we can't reverse it as it's under international rules and needs to be heard by the ICC if you want to fight about it. So unless Dathomire take us to arbitration, we should have 75% stitched up and can move on the ML and the hold ups.

The other battle at arbitration sounds like we won to have first heard the fight of pre-emptive rights and if they were followed correctly, if they were, then a fight for ownership will move forward. If AVZ was back doors, then we can move to purchase the extra 15%

Please tell me if I'm wrong, that just how I read it all. Not bad news, not good news, pretty much what we all knew. The only thing I feel has changed is it's not Zijin that's the hold up, I think it's the DRC case.

 

[Bin59]

During the Question/Answer session at the Chatham house Royal Institute of International Affairs conference, I hope someone asked Felix about the DRC Manono Lithium asset as the world is aware of it.