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update for the detailed plan

"Kiruna municipality fights against Talga's demands: "Can't take the costs"​

  • The graphite in Nunasvaara in Vittangi is classified as national interest, but the area is also of national interest for the reindeer industry.
  • This is what the county administrative board writes in a consultation statement to the government about the company Talga's request that Kiruna municipality be forced to adopt a detailed plan that enables mining there.
  • The municipality, which refuses to make a detailed plan, has until the end of August to give its opinion to the government."

More than two months to formulate something that has already been communicated for months. The only thing missing is that they also deliberately forget to sign and ask for an extension of the deadline beforehand.
After these experiences, who would voluntarily invest in Sweden again, please raise your hand...

Thank you for acting so successfully against climate protection.
 
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cosors said:
update for the detailed plan

"Kiruna municipality fights against Talga's demands: "Can't take the costs"​

  • The graphite in Nunasvaara in Vittangi is classified as national interest, but the area is also of national interest for the reindeer industry.
  • This is what the county administrative board writes in a consultation statement to the government about the company Talga's request that Kiruna municipality be forced to adopt a detailed plan that enables mining there.
  • The municipality, which refuses to make a detailed plan, has until the end of August to give its opinion to the government."

More than two months to formulate something that has already been communicated for months. The only thing missing is that they also deliberately forget to sign and ask for an extension of the deadline beforehand.
After these experiences, who would voluntarily invest in Sweden again, please raise your hand...
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What
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F'#k

Such a joke of a country....
 
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Unbelievable. What a bunch of idiots !! Why is the government so incapable of doing stuff? Local as well as national. That asking back and forth is exactly the problem! Talga, please please please develop a synthetic graphite line for Talnode-Si. Unbelievable. If we wait for Sweden even for Talnode-Si, Talga will not be able to grow the business as fast as the demand is asking for it.
 
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What a joke.

Best case scenario from here is 2028 for first full calendar year of nameplate production.

Meanwhile $50m pa in interest payments from 2026. I’d hate to think what an updated IRR looks like for Vittangi. Standalone without state support or expansion it’s probably getting close to an unviable project.

Tal-Si or lithium pivot needed for a lifeline
 
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Starting to feel like I shouldn't have allocated 90% of my investment money to this 👀
 
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Tim said:
Starting to feel like I shouldn't have allocated 90% of my investment money to this 👀
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Tim I thought you were always the one that has all the answers...
 
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cosors said:
update for the detailed plan

"Kiruna municipality fights against Talga's demands: "Can't take the costs"​

  • The graphite in Nunasvaara in Vittangi is classified as national interest, but the area is also of national interest for the reindeer industry.
  • This is what the county administrative board writes in a consultation statement to the government about the company Talga's request that Kiruna municipality be forced to adopt a detailed plan that enables mining there.
  • The municipality, which refuses to make a detailed plan, has until the end of August to give its opinion to the government."

More than two months to formulate something that has already been communicated for months. The only thing missing is that they also deliberately forget to sign and ask for an extension of the deadline beforehand.
After these experiences, who would voluntarily invest in Sweden again, please raise your hand...

Thank you for acting so successfully against climate protection.
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Talga went to the government for the detailed plan on March 14. Now the government is asking the Municipality for it's opinion on June 21. (Say it was Friday before the article was written). That is 3 month to get to this point with almost 2 month time to form an opinion that they already voiced. How long after that before the government make up it's own mind? I am beyond flabbergasted by this rigmarole.
 
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Tim I thought you were always the one that has all the answers...
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You must have me confused with somebody else 😅
 
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Tim said:
You must have me confused with somebody else 😅
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oh yeah, "only Time will tell"
easy mistake to make 😛
 
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cosors said:
More than two months to formulate something that has already been communicated for months. The only thing missing is that they also deliberately forget to sign and ask for an extension of the deadline beforehand.
After these experiences, who would voluntarily invest in Sweden again, please raise your hand...

Thank you for acting so successfully against climate protection.
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Why are you all getting so upset about another government delay ?

Politicians never fast track anything unless they are left with no alternative. We are still waiting for the permit decision so there is no pressure on politicians to make quick decisions. In fact with summer holidays coming up the end of August and onwards is really when we are likely to see a permit decision anyway.

Don't forget at the last Shareholder briefing end of April MT quite clearly stated that the SC had not even gotten to our case yet

Like I said why get so upset about it

From some random Google site...........The Summer Holidays in Sweden commence on June 12 and last until August 16, 2024. A number of regions start their summer holidays a few days earlier or later.
 
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WheresTheMonkey said:
Don't forget at the last Shareholder briefing end of April MT quite clearly stated that the SC had not even gotten to our case yet
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Was it the webinar before this that he said “we have reason to believe it’s getting close” or something similar? At the time I thought their political / lobbying connections must have given them some hope but wonder now what this was based on if the SC hadn’t even got close to looking at it.

Anyone got a guess on how long it will take once the SC actually pick up the case documents? I’m naively thinking it will be a quick process (ie matter of days / weeks) but might be optimistic with the bureaucracy involved
 
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curiousmagpie said:
Was it the webinar before this that he said “we have reason to believe it’s getting close” or something similar?
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Yes that was the one before. He would be getting this feedback from our own external lawyers who would have a great deal of experience with the system and therefore whose interpretation of "it’s getting close” ......................well "close" could be 6 months LOL.

I cant remember who our lawyers are now but that Court log of our case that was posted a few months ago disclosed their names which I Googled and the two that were named are very experienced in the Environmental field

I've just gone through an audit conducted by the Australian Taxation Office. Just one of their regular

"Hey you................you live on the Northern Beaches you must be up to no good"

I was notified in January 2022 it was going to occur. Naturally you start to then worry perhaps you have done something wrong and that thought pops into your head with some regularity. They actually started it almost 18 months later in July last year and they had all the information they wanted by September last year. But still you experience some anxiety.

Added to that the guy who was in charge of the my audit went on 18 weeks of paternity leave so my case just stopped dead for 4 months. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes in our Swedish case. "Oh OK .........Great so I need to wait some more"

I finally got an email yesterday saying it had concluded and besides a few very minor ASIC shareholder register stuff I was in the clear. All that anxiety for nothing

The moral of the story is that bureaucracy seems about the same all over the world not just Sweden and consequently they don't give a rat's about their impact on the other party
 
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curiousmagpie said:
Was it the webinar before this that he said “we have reason to believe it’s getting close” or something similar? At the time I thought their political / lobbying connections must have given them some hope but wonder now what this was based on if the SC hadn’t even got close to looking at it.

Anyone got a guess on how long it will take once the SC actually pick up the case documents? I’m naively thinking it will be a quick process (ie matter of days / weeks) but might be optimistic with the bureaucracy involved
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Based on his subsequent comments about sending a letter now that the normal time for the court to decide to grant leave to appeal or not had passed, I think he was originally referring just to that "normal" timeline that he'd been told.
 
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I’ve just received this response back from the court re the summer shutdown.

‘’Hello, The Supreme Court does not close during the summer. Please see the Supreme Court website for opening hours’’.

So a glimmer of hope for the coming weeks perhaps…
 
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Monkeymandan said:
I’ve just received this response back from the court re the summer shutdown.

‘’Hello, The Supreme Court does not close during the summer. Please see the Supreme Court website for opening hours’’.

So a glimmer of hope for the coming weeks perhaps…
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Thank you very much!
Finally something positive!
 
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Monkeymandan said:
I’ve just received this response back from the court re the summer shutdown.

‘’Hello, The Supreme Court does not close during the summer. Please see the Supreme Court website for opening hours’’.

So a glimmer of hope for the coming weeks perhaps…
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Nothing officially closes, but everyone takes leave so things slow down.
 
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Nothing officially closes, but everyone takes leave so things slow down.
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The judges all wear budgie smugglers under their gowns to catch some sun during recess.
 
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Monkeymandan said:
I’ve just received this response back from the court re the summer shutdown.

‘’Hello, The Supreme Court does not close during the summer. Please see the Supreme Court website for opening hours’’.

So a glimmer of hope for the coming weeks perhaps…
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No they don't close down.
They leave 1 person at reception to tell everyone they're not closed :p
 
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No they don't close down.
They leave 1 person at reception to tell everyone they're not closed :p
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Yeah sounds about right in hindsight 😩
 
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