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Yeah sounds about right in hindsight 😩
Do you also think the person on behalf of the colleagues in the court is this dude?
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2023-03-08 is 8th March not 3rd August :)
 
well well well

deleting posts! and there you were worried about MY creditability
 

Diogenese

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UBS increased its holding by just under one third on Friday.

Now all they need to do is exercise a bit of judicial suasion.
 
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Are we close ?????

OK it is over a year old but here is an Environmental case that was granted the right of appeal to the Supreme Court.

Note the original judgement of the Land & Environment Court of Appeal was dated 22/12/2021. As there were no Nimbys involved I doubt there would have been any delays to ask for the right to appeal

Judgment of the Svea Court of Appeal, Land and Environment Court of Appeal, of 22/12/2021 in case M 7888-19


And the Supreme Court delivered it's final judgement on this unrelated case in Stockholm on 5 April 2023

15 months
from the date of it's Land & Environment Court of Appeal case.

My point is the entire matter was wrapped up in 15 months including the Appeal being granted and heard .

Our Land and Environment Court of Appeal case was decided on 1 September almost 12 months ago.

We must now be close .........surely
 
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Are we close ?????

OK it is over a year old but here is an Environmental case that was granted the right of appeal to the Supreme Court.

Note the original judgement of the Land & Environment Court of Appeal was dated 22/12/2021. As there were no Nimbys involved I doubt there would have been any delays to ask for the right to appeal

Judgment of the Svea Court of Appeal, Land and Environment Court of Appeal, of 22/12/2021 in case M 7888-19


And the Supreme Court delivered it's final judgement in Stockholm on 5 April 2023

15 months
from the date of it's Land & Environment Court of Appeal case.

My point is the entire matter was wrapped up in 15 months including the Appeal being granted and heard .

Our Land and Environment Court of Appeal case was decided on 1 September almost 12 months ago.

We must now be close .........surely
It’s been 505 days since the initial rejection 😵‍💫 I’ve thought the same point. We could’ve said: have at it and let’s try this case and potentially got a quicker outcome
 
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cosors

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That's the zeitgeist.
 
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Are we close ?????

OK it is over a year old but here is an Environmental case that was granted the right of appeal to the Supreme Court.

Note the original judgement of the Land & Environment Court of Appeal was dated 22/12/2021. As there were no Nimbys involved I doubt there would have been any delays to ask for the right to appeal

Judgment of the Svea Court of Appeal, Land and Environment Court of Appeal, of 22/12/2021 in case M 7888-19


And the Supreme Court delivered it's final judgement on this unrelated case in Stockholm on 5 April 2023

15 months
from the date of it's Land & Environment Court of Appeal case.

My point is the entire matter was wrapped up in 15 months including the Appeal being granted and heard .

Our Land and Environment Court of Appeal case was decided on 1 September almost 12 months ago.

We must now be close .........surely
Why are so many of you hitting the old Sad Face:cry: ................?

My point is that a case that went through the same process as we are going through took 15 months BUT the case I'm pointing to actually won the right to an appeal went back to the court process/trial and was all wrapped up in 15 months. We are pretty confident we wont be forced to go back to Court therefore I think we might be pretty close to a decision.
 
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Why are so many of you hitting the old Sad Face:cry: ................?

My point is that a case that went through the same process as we are going through took 15 months BUT the case I'm pointing to actually won the right to an appeal went back to the court process/trial and was all wrapped up in 15 months. We are pretty confident we wont be forced to go back to Court therefore I think we might be pretty close to a decision.
Sorry, misunderstood.
Fire up the bloody anti's arse. They are partly to blame for the courts being overloaded.
 
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Why are so many of you hitting the old Sad Face:cry: ................?

My point is that a case that went through the same process as we are going through took 15 months BUT the case I'm pointing to actually won the right to an appeal went back to the court process/trial and was all wrapped up in 15 months. We are pretty confident we wont be forced to go back to Court therefore I think we might be pretty close to a decision.
OK further to my point above @Gvan has done some great research and posted over at HC the following information which relates to the entire workload of the SC not just Environmental cases

The court's projected time of 1 to 4 months covers 90% of cases, which is why we can still find many examples showing longer time frames.

The good news is that data from the last 3 years shows that we are at the tail end of this process. In previous years, pending cases that are older than 6 months make up 9 to 10%. There is a strong drop off for pending cases older than 12 months: 0.9%

Talga has just crossed 11 months (if going by the original date, and not considering the power of attorney delays).
 
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Happy to get a full allocation. The odds quoted by Gvan are what had me loading up in the low 40's and applying for the raise.
The go ahead will arrive sooner or later. Lock in now and aim for previous highs then blue sky.
If the SP temporarily falls no problem as i am a long term holder and that is just part of the journey.
At 50 cents its a 4.5 times gain from here to previous highs of $2.23 then blue sky.
At $1 SP its still a 2 plus gain.
 
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"August 29, 2024

Transfer of research permit​

On August 29, 2024, the Bergstaaten has decided to grant Talga Battery Metals AB consent to transfer, according to the Minerals Act, exploration permits to the company Talga Tech AB (Dnr BS 204-561-2024).
On 29 August 2024, Bergsstaten granted Talga Battery Metals AB the transfer of the exploration permits Suorravaara no. 3, Sourravaara no. 5, Nilivaara no. 1, Suorravaara no. 6 and Suorravaara no. 7 in Gällivare municipality to Talga Tech AB (Dnr BS 204-561-2024).
Known property owners and other interested parties are notified of the decision by post.
Owners of the properties Gällivare Sammakko S:1, S:4, S:9, Gällivare Lina 3:60, Gällivare Ullatti 24:4 and Gällivare Lillberget 4:3 are notified of the decision through this announcement."
 
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Detailed plan (development plan)
Now our cause is listed on the page of the Riksdag (government). We have put a question to the government and they jet have answered. First our question again, then the answer:

"The question has been submitted
Events
Submitted: 2024-09-03
Surrendered: 2024-09-04
Reported: 2024-09-05
Response date: 2024-09-11
Last date of reply: 2024-09-11
Answered: 2024-09-11

Written question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)

Talga's letter to the government​


to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

The mining company Talga has submitted a request to the government for a planning order because the municipality of Kiruna is delaying granting a detailed plan for the graphite mine in Vittangi.
Talga wants to mine graphite, which is an important strategic raw material used to manufacture anodes for lithium-ion batteries. The mining company is now also building the first facility for graphite anode material for batteries in Luleå.
The mining company emphasizes that it is their ambition to extract 16.2 percent of the EU's demand for natural graphite by the year 2030. They must also produce just over 10 percent of the EU's demand for anode material from natural graphite during the same time period. The mining company also believes that Europe's self-sufficiency in the critical raw material for batteries depends on this mine.
Kiruna municipality, for its part, emphasizes that the burden on the municipality is great as a result of the housing shortage and weak municipal finances, not least as a result of Kiruna's city move and other large investments in the municipality.
Kiruna believes that there will only be costs and that no new money will come if the municipality now invests work and money in carrying out a planning procedure for the planned mine in Vittangi.
Another reason for Kiruna municipality's resistance is that the tax that the municipality can levy is a flat tax. Unlike the state tax, which is higher for high income earners, all municipal residents must pay the same amount of kroner per hundred in municipal tax, regardless of how much they earn. But that is not the only problem. Many of those who work in the mine do not pay income tax at all, because they have become an increasingly large group that works according to fly in, fly out, and thus not a single tax kroner comes to the municipality.
The mining company has come a long way in the permit process, but now lacks the necessary up-to-date detailed plan.
A secure and sustainable supply of minerals and metals is necessary to enable green social construction, strengthen competitiveness, electrify Sweden and strengthen Swedish defense capabilities. More mines are needed to reduce Sweden's and the EU's dependence on raw materials from third countries. At the same time, acceptance is needed for mines, not least from the mining municipalities and the local population, who are now, for good reason, tired of not getting anything in return.
My question to Minister of Energy and Food Ebba Busch is:

Do the minister and the government intend to take any initiatives regarding Talga's letter to the government?

Answer to written question 2023/24:1100 answered by Prime Minister Andreas Carlson (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 Talga's letter to the government

to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)
Talga's letter to the government
Isak From has asked the Minister of Energy and Industry if she and the government intend to take any initiatives in connection with Talga's letter to the government.
The work within the government is so divided that it is I who will answer the question.
Talga AB has submitted a letter stating that the government, with the support of ch. 11 Section 15 of the Planning and Building Act (2010:900) must order Kiruna municipality to adopt a new detailed plan through a so-called planning order to enable the mining of graphite, which is a strategic raw material used for the manufacture of anodes for lithium-ion batteries.

The government shares Talga AB's and Isak From's attitude that the establishment of new mines - not least those that can contribute to the green transition and strengthen Sweden's competitiveness - is an important issue for Sweden's economy as well as for the environment.
👉 Talga AB's letter on planning injunction is currently being prepared within the Government Office.
Stockholm on 11 September 2024



Andreas Carlson"

It's nice that the Swedish government shares Talga's view. Now let the words be followed by deeds. It's all about practical implementation. Without the plan, no start of construction, one way or another.
 
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Detailed plan (development plan)
Now our cause is listed on the page of the Reichstag (government). We have put a question to the government and they jet have answered. First our question again, then the answer:

"The question has been submitted
Events
Submitted: 2024-09-03
Surrendered: 2024-09-04
Reported: 2024-09-05
Response date: 2024-09-11
Last date of reply: 2024-09-11
Answered: 2024-09-11

Written question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)

Talga's letter to the government​


to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

The mining company Talga has submitted a request to the government for a planning order because the municipality of Kiruna is delaying granting a detailed plan for the graphite mine in Vittangi.
Talga wants to mine graphite, which is an important strategic raw material used to manufacture anodes for lithium-ion batteries. The mining company is now also building the first facility for graphite anode material for batteries in Luleå.
The mining company emphasizes that it is their ambition to extract 16.2 percent of the EU's demand for natural graphite by the year 2030. They must also produce just over 10 percent of the EU's demand for anode material from natural graphite during the same time period. The mining company also believes that Europe's self-sufficiency in the critical raw material for batteries depends on this mine.
Kiruna municipality, for its part, emphasizes that the burden on the municipality is great as a result of the housing shortage and weak municipal finances, not least as a result of Kiruna's city move and other large investments in the municipality.
Kiruna believes that there will only be costs and that no new money will come if the municipality now invests work and money in carrying out a planning procedure for the planned mine in Vittangi.
Another reason for Kiruna municipality's resistance is that the tax that the municipality can levy is a flat tax. Unlike the state tax, which is higher for high income earners, all municipal residents must pay the same amount of kroner per hundred in municipal tax, regardless of how much they earn. But that is not the only problem. Many of those who work in the mine do not pay income tax at all, because they have become an increasingly large group that works according to fly in, fly out, and thus not a single tax kroner comes to the municipality.
The mining company has come a long way in the permit process, but now lacks the necessary up-to-date detailed plan.
A secure and sustainable supply of minerals and metals is necessary to enable green social construction, strengthen competitiveness, electrify Sweden and strengthen Swedish defense capabilities. More mines are needed to reduce Sweden's and the EU's dependence on raw materials from third countries. At the same time, acceptance is needed for mines, not least from the mining municipalities and the local population, who are now, for good reason, tired of not getting anything in return.
My question to Minister of Energy and Food Ebba Busch is:

Do the minister and the government intend to take any initiatives regarding Talga's letter to the government?

Answer to written question 2023/24:1100 answered by Prime Minister Andreas Carlson (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 Talga's letter to the government

to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)
Talga's letter to the government
Isak From has asked the Minister of Energy and Industry if she and the government intend to take any initiatives in connection with Talga's letter to the government.
The work within the government is so divided that it is I who will answer the question.
Talga AB has submitted a letter stating that the government, with the support of ch. 11 Section 15 of the Planning and Building Act (2010:900) must order Kiruna municipality to adopt a new detailed plan through a so-called planning order to enable the mining of graphite, which is a strategic raw material used for the manufacture of anodes for lithium-ion batteries.

The government shares Talga AB's and Isak From's attitude that the establishment of new mines - not least those that can contribute to the green transition and strengthen Sweden's competitiveness - is an important issue for Sweden's economy as well as for the environment.
👉 Talga AB's letter on planning injunction is currently being prepared within the Government Office.
Stockholm on 11 September 2024



Andreas Carlson"

It's nice that the Swedish government shares Talga's view. Now let the words be followed by deeds. It's all about practical implementation. Without the plan, no start of construction, one way or another.
Again it is made clear that we are being held hostage in a financial dispute between the municipality and the government.

Let's hope that there is not another appeal in the offing once the government makes the order.

The fact that Talga has taken this step could suggest that the current Supreme Court matter is not close to resolution.
 
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The fact that Talga has taken this step could suggest that the current Supreme Court matter is not close to resolution.
I don’t see any connection to the SC decision,

Anyway where is the SC decision ? we know ( or it seems like) it has moved away from the Judge(s).

FFS…at least a week now since we learnt that “there was movement at the station as word had got around”

Now what is the delay ?

Do they chisel this decision into a tablet of graphite ?
 
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I don’t see any connection to the SC decision,

Anyway where is the SC decision ? we know ( or it seems like) it has moved away from the Judge(s).

FFS…at least a week now since we learnt that “there was movement at the station as word had got around”

Now what is the delay ?

Do they chisel this decision into a tablet of graphite ?
I'm beginning to feel like with each reassignment, you go back to the bottom of the next persons queue..
 
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Again it is made clear that we are being held hostage in a financial dispute between the municipality and the government.

Let's hope that there is not another appeal in the offing once the government makes the order.

The fact that Talga has taken this step could suggest that the current Supreme Court matter is not close to resolution.
I understand your first point. I see the second one differently. I think the detailed plan has nothing to do with the SC decision. The plan is necessary to be able to finally start building. All permits could be in the pocket, Natura2000, environmental permit, processing concession and even the head of Bergsstaaten can hold his ceremony, but if the detailed plan is not available, nothing will be built.
But I agree with your first point. No matter where I look, local politics and this one party are using every dodge to slow things down. Not only once did I think of sabotage. Every time I think of Lulea. I don't know whether the municipality will now legally build in the fifth attempt. There seem to be too many stupid mistakes for me not to think like that.
I think the board must have thought about suing the municipality several times. It's been more than a year since construction could have started.
On the other site/topic, I think Talga had no choice but to approach the government. I don't trust the sunny boy politician in Kiruna one bit/mm. Clearly against it with many arguments and even now he demands money directly from Talga. Then he votes in favour of the project to keep up appearances when he sees that the majority is against it. He has zero interest in the cause or climate protection. He's only interested in money for his empty coffers. Moreover, the guy is not only hypocritical but also not the brightest. He makes sure that Talga burns money, investors lose patience and then demands that Talga build houses. With what money? Besides, he is against it, even though he voted in favour.
Then his two party colleagues Samelli. Apparently in favour, but behind the scenes against it because their colleagues from Kiruna are against it, who knows. Don't even get me started on the feminists party.)
I think Talga has no other chance as to go through the legal process step by step with good lawyers and top advice.
Personally, I would no longer trust local politics up there if I would be an employee of Talga.
Let's wait and see how the state of Norrbotten acts when they get the task of Talga's detailed plan on the table.
Talga can't negotiate with the local party of Kiruna, otherwise we would have seen some results in the last two years.
Had Talga not approached the government, sunny boy would still be grinning at the camera and Talga would be patiently waiting for the plan that will never be finalised, because the party never intended to.

All just my guess and gut feeling.
 
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Interesting rumour over at HC from a poster called "Lucky Swede"

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    30/09/24
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    Rumours says that the "justitieråd" that worked with our (Talga) case got sick and it took long time before the SC found our case on the working desk of the long-term sick leave justitieråd.

    TLG Price at posting: 37.5¢ Sentiment: Hold Disclosure: Held
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

And look at the Shortman site


I don't recall it at .14% (607,840 shares) for a looooooooong time
 
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Interesting rumour over at HC from a poster called "Lucky Swede"

  1. Lucky Swede
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    30/09/24
    04:36
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    TLG Price at posting: 37.5¢ Sentiment: Hold Disclosure: Held
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

And look at the Shortman site


I don't recall it at .14% (607,840 shares) for a looooooooong time
Thanks for sharing!
I looked there too and I like this humor:

"I once took my passport to an embassy in London to get a work visa. Passport vanished without trace only to be located under one of the table legs to stop table wobble.
maybe that's what has happened to our submission.

sorry. Just trying to keep a sense of humour in a VERY trying situation."
 
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Diogenese

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Detailed plan (development plan)
Now our cause is listed on the page of the Riksdag (government). We have put a question to the government and they jet have answered. First our question again, then the answer:

"The question has been submitted
Events
Submitted: 2024-09-03
Surrendered: 2024-09-04
Reported: 2024-09-05
Response date: 2024-09-11
Last date of reply: 2024-09-11
Answered: 2024-09-11

Written question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)

Talga's letter to the government​


to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

The mining company Talga has submitted a request to the government for a planning order because the municipality of Kiruna is delaying granting a detailed plan for the graphite mine in Vittangi.
Talga wants to mine graphite, which is an important strategic raw material used to manufacture anodes for lithium-ion batteries. The mining company is now also building the first facility for graphite anode material for batteries in Luleå.
The mining company emphasizes that it is their ambition to extract 16.2 percent of the EU's demand for natural graphite by the year 2030. They must also produce just over 10 percent of the EU's demand for anode material from natural graphite during the same time period. The mining company also believes that Europe's self-sufficiency in the critical raw material for batteries depends on this mine.
Kiruna municipality, for its part, emphasizes that the burden on the municipality is great as a result of the housing shortage and weak municipal finances, not least as a result of Kiruna's city move and other large investments in the municipality.
Kiruna believes that there will only be costs and that no new money will come if the municipality now invests work and money in carrying out a planning procedure for the planned mine in Vittangi.
Another reason for Kiruna municipality's resistance is that the tax that the municipality can levy is a flat tax. Unlike the state tax, which is higher for high income earners, all municipal residents must pay the same amount of kroner per hundred in municipal tax, regardless of how much they earn. But that is not the only problem. Many of those who work in the mine do not pay income tax at all, because they have become an increasingly large group that works according to fly in, fly out, and thus not a single tax kroner comes to the municipality.
The mining company has come a long way in the permit process, but now lacks the necessary up-to-date detailed plan.
A secure and sustainable supply of minerals and metals is necessary to enable green social construction, strengthen competitiveness, electrify Sweden and strengthen Swedish defense capabilities. More mines are needed to reduce Sweden's and the EU's dependence on raw materials from third countries. At the same time, acceptance is needed for mines, not least from the mining municipalities and the local population, who are now, for good reason, tired of not getting anything in return.
My question to Minister of Energy and Food Ebba Busch is:

Do the minister and the government intend to take any initiatives regarding Talga's letter to the government?

Answer to written question 2023/24:1100 answered by Prime Minister Andreas Carlson (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 Talga's letter to the government

to Minister of Energy and Industry Ebba Busch (KD)

Answer to question 2023/24:1100 by Isak From (S)
Talga's letter to the government
Isak From has asked the Minister of Energy and Industry if she and the government intend to take any initiatives in connection with Talga's letter to the government.
The work within the government is so divided that it is I who will answer the question.
Talga AB has submitted a letter stating that the government, with the support of ch. 11 Section 15 of the Planning and Building Act (2010:900) must order Kiruna municipality to adopt a new detailed plan through a so-called planning order to enable the mining of graphite, which is a strategic raw material used for the manufacture of anodes for lithium-ion batteries.

The government shares Talga AB's and Isak From's attitude that the establishment of new mines - not least those that can contribute to the green transition and strengthen Sweden's competitiveness - is an important issue for Sweden's economy as well as for the environment.
👉 Talga AB's letter on planning injunction is currently being prepared within the Government Office.
Stockholm on 11 September 2024



Andreas Carlson"

It's nice that the Swedish government shares Talga's view. Now let the words be followed by deeds. It's all about practical implementation. Without the plan, no start of construction, one way or another.

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