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I know the RZ/V2L uses the DRP-AI but wonder if there may be the opportunity or anything in the works implementing Akida into the RZ/V2L retail use cases like the below?


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Diogenese

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Hello all,
Chinese Toanjic chip, competition?
Hi SS,

Looks like Tianjic uses analog NN for audio. It also uses CNN (MAC-based) for video and something else for control.


A hybrid and scalable brain-inspired robotic platform | Scientific Reports (nature.com)


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For each module, we opened independent data paths, which were distinct in information representation, frequency and throughput. In the visual module, each frame of video was resized to a 70 × 70 gray image and fed into a CNN as multi-bit values, enabling rich environmental spatial information to be maintained with limited computing resources (Fig. 3a). In contrast, the raw audio stream was transformed into binary spike trains in the auditory module. After end-point detection32,33, the key frequency features were obtained by taking the Mel Frequency Cepstral Coefficient (MFCC)34. A Gaussian population35 was used to encode each MFCC feature into spike trains as input to a three-layer fully-connected SNN (Fig. 3b). For motion control, sequential signals were first generated by functional cores to merge with the steering commands from other modules as the comprehensive target angle. Data from all sensors were then integrated via the MLP network for angle control (Fig. 3d). The designs and training of each network-based module are described in the Methods.

Tianjic uses different technologies to handle visual and audio. Akida can handle both.

They use 1-bit analog for audio which is very efficient but not so hot on accuracy. Akida can do 1-bit up to 8-bit inputs (256 values).

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Tianjic needs a separate FPGA for pre-processing input signals. Akida has built-in preprocessing.

So, competition? - Yes.

Worried? - No,
 
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Whilst I’ve never been much of a fan of Ken the robot personally, there is a lot of hype around humanoid automatons in general.
They have a deep and rich place in our psyche and pander somewhat to our anthropocentric view of the world.
I hope that “if” this is a stratagem to introduce and popularise AKIDA 2 or even 3 that it's not too childlike and dumbed down.
In competition with the likes of Boston Dynamics that video doesn't cut the mustard in either messaging or production value in my opinion.

And just what is in the packaged item on the table here??
An edge box??
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Ken
Sydney , Paris,Rome, Toyota America, Golden Gate Bridge, Venice , sea side somewhere
Package maybe Asian crisps
 
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Hello all,
Chinese Toanjic chip, competition?

CCP at it again....never ever to be trusted, EVER.

God Bless the free world, certainly not perfect, but many, many times better than
Possible... but this is around since 2015 (2017 2nd generation... and some news in 2022) and nothing heard about since...🤔

On the basis of the first-generation chip developed in 2015, the second-generation Tianjic chip was released in 2017. After continuous design improvement, the current Tianjic achieves flexible functionality, high speed, and low power. Compared to the TrueNorth chip at IBM, Tianjic provides more comprehensive functionality, better flexibility/scalability, 20% higher density, ten times higher speed, and 100 times higher internal bandwidth.

Link: https://innovationessence.com/tianjic-inspired-computing/

2019 Link:


I do know that a number of years ago (some) Brainchip staff visited China, I do know of one of the team, but no names will be mentioned.

We were looking at setting up an office. that could be the wrong word, but decided to pull the pin on China, we do or did have a Chinese
Counsel in Los Angeles representing us, probably around the time we were awaiting our 1 and only Patent registered in China.

I do know the team were told not to leave any laptops lying around or hook up to any Wi-Fi or Internet while visiting China.


The golden rule is...Never trust Evil.........if you feel it.......it's too late.

Purely a private citizens view.
 
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AI Chip for Data Centers Market Companies Mentioned by Top Countries manufacturers/ Key player Data Profiled and also Analysts understand competitive strengths and provide competitive analysis for each competitor separately. AI Chip for Data Centers Market Companies Mentioned

. Brainchip
• CEVA
• Graphcore
• Intel
• Xilinx
• Google
• NVIDIA
• Wave Computing
• ARM
• Qualcomm
• AMD
• KnuEdge
• TeraDeep
• IBM



 
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AI Chip for Data Centers Market Companies Mentioned by Top Countries manufacturers/ Key player Data Profiled and also Analysts understand competitive strengths and provide competitive analysis for each competitor separately. AI Chip for Data Centers Market Companies Mentioned

. Brainchip
• CEVA
• Graphcore
• Intel
• Xilinx
• Google
• NVIDIA
• Wave Computing
• ARM
• Qualcomm
• AMD
• KnuEdge
• TeraDeep
• IBM




Some weird grammar and formatting in that Article.
I haven't requested the report but the LinkedIn summary is quite odd.
Is it an Ai summary of the report?

For instance:
"The AI Chip for Data Centers market has witnessed a growth from USD million to USD million from 2017 to 2022."
 
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Some weird grammar and formatting in that Article.
I haven't requested the report but the LinkedIn summary is quite odd.
Is it an Ai summary of the report?

For instance:
"The AI Chip for Data Centers market has witnessed a growth from USD million to USD million from 2017 to 2022."
Maybe written by Ken
 
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It looks like Fact Finder has solved the mystery in his post over at the crapper.

The object in question being a Kellogs Rice Krispie Treat which is being surveilled by the camera apparatus above.
Or as our resident Fact Finder says........

"Last year the use of the VVDN AKIDA Edge Box which was being held in the video by Ken the Robot for retail stock control surfaced.

I seems likely that Ken the Robot is showing off AKIDA technology reading labels and identifying features for retail.

My opinion only DYOR

Fact Fin

And this kind of system I spotted recently in japan when I was for a business trip in a bakery… interesting name

I wrote a while ago that I spotted this device in japan … it maybe have nothing to do with us . But since brainchip made this mention regarding retail object detecting, I think such a company would be a potential customer…. IMO
 
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I wrote a while ago that I spotted this device in japan … it maybe have nothing to do with us . But since brainchip made this mention regarding retail object detecting, I think such a company would be a potential customer…. IMO
There is certainly a large addressable world wide market for this type of equipment.
I wonder if there is a big fish dominating the market or if it is "still in play" ripe for disruption by a nimble player with advanced, energy efficient and secure local on device processing.
One bread and butter, quick to deploy customer would be nice.......for a start. 🤣
 
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There is certainly a large addressable world wide market for this type of equipment.
I wonder if there is a big fish dominating the market or if it is "still in play" ripe for disruption by a nimble player with advanced, energy efficient and secure local on device processing.
One bread and butter, quick to deploy customer would be nice.......for a start. 🤣
Sure but the company develops a lot more! Check their homepage! It’s not just bread detection
 
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Whilst I’ve never been much of a fan of Ken the robot personally, there is a lot of hype around humanoid automatons in general.
They have a deep and rich place in our psyche and pander somewhat to our anthropocentric view of the world.
I hope that “if” this is a stratagem to introduce and popularise AKIDA 2 or even 3 that it's not too childlike and dumbed down.
In competition with the likes of Boston Dynamics that video doesn't cut the mustard in either messaging or production value in my opinion.

And just what is in the packaged item on the table here??
An edge box??
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A Kelloggs rice Krispie treat hmmm and ken the robot is winking... hmmm lol
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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Sure but the company develops a lot more! Check their homepage! It’s not just bread detection
Hi 7.

I was using the term "bread and butter" as a metaphor which may have been lost in translation or with which you may be unfamiliar.

In English speaking countries it may be taken as meaning.....

"providing a livelihood or basic source of income; supplying the basic needs of life: a bread-and-butter job; the agency's bread-and-butter account. of or relating to basic needs: housing and other bread-and-butter political issues."

I agree there are numerous applications for such equipment......hence large addressable world wide market. 🤣
 
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Hi 7.

I was using the term "bread and butter" as a metaphor which may have been lost in translation or with which you may be unfamiliar.

In English speaking countries it may be taken as meaning.....

"providing a livelihood or basic source of income; supplying the basic needs of life: a bread-and-butter job; the agency's bread-and-butter account. of or relating to basic needs: housing and other bread-and-butter political issues."

I agree there are numerous applications for such equipment......hence large addressable world wide market. 🤣
😂 jeeez ! Sorry
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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😂 jeeez ! Sorry
It's all good friend.
I appreciate the cross pollination that happens here when different cultures, skill sets compulsions and languages mix and blend.
It's groovy. 🤣
 
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Hi 7.

I was using the term "bread and butter" as a metaphor which may have been lost in translation or with which you may be unfamiliar.

In English speaking countries it may be taken as meaning.....

"providing a livelihood or basic source of income; supplying the basic needs of life: a bread-and-butter job; the agency's bread-and-butter account. of or relating to basic needs: housing and other bread-and-butter political issues."

I agree there are numerous applications for such equipment......hence large addressable world wide market. 🤣
Scene: Neddy Seagoon in office wiping grime off window to see out.

Window Cleaner: "Oi! Cut that out! That's more than my job's worth ... my bread and butter ..."

Seagoon: "What about your bread and butter?"

WC: "I use it to clean the windows."
 
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What could be further interesting for those dot joiners out there like myself is that the image @HopalongPetrovski with Ken the robot and the kelloggs rice krisp treat is that they made some with braille on them. Is this why ken is winking? ....

So i'm thinking that because its placed on the plate for the edge learning as you can see on the computer in @CHIPS video , that it is learning the braille on the the snacks and not just the snack itself. I'm pretty sure there is more to this simple package than meets the EYE.
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A name we are familiar with.....SoundHound


SoundHound AI Reports Record Quarter with 80% Q4 Revenue Growth to $17.1 Million; Adjusted EBITDA Improved by 80% Year-Over-Year in Q4


Just watched an interview on Bloomberg TV with their CEO, Keyvan Mohajer, discussing their results and Nvida taking a stake in the company.

A couple of key points....

The welcome the backing from Nvida.
They have two new major customers but cannot disclose who they are due to NDAs
It's taken them 20 years to get to this point.
By the way! This one of their customers


The car is planed to be sold in Germany as well

Edit:
There is no direct connection between braini and SH, but they could theoretically collaborate if their technologies offer synergies. Or am I wrong?
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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What could be further interesting for those dot joiners out there like myself is that the image @HopalongPetrovski with Ken the robot and the kelloggs rice krisp treat is that they made some with braille on them. Is this why ken is winking? ....

So i'm thinking that because its placed on the plate for the edge learning as you can see on the computer in @CHIPS video , that it is learning the braille on the the snacks and not just the snack itself. I'm pretty sure there is more to this simple package than meets the EYE. View attachment 61366
Sorry MDhere, ( I want to say My Dear🤣) but, I'm not understanding your joke.........

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🤣
 
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What could be further interesting for those dot joiners out there like myself is that the image @HopalongPetrovski with Ken the robot and the kelloggs rice krisp treat is that they made some with braille on them. Is this why ken is winking? ....

So i'm thinking that because its placed on the plate for the edge learning as you can see on the computer in @CHIPS video , that it is learning the braille on the the snacks and not just the snack itself. I'm pretty sure there is more to this simple package than meets the EYE. View attachment 61366
Maybe he has seen the ingredients list and has formulated the antidote.

Rice Krispies definitely fall under the category of "a food like substance"
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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Jesus. The serious people here must be spinning in their grave (minds) at this point.
For Chrissake, anyone got a dot, or two, requiring joining???
And I don't mean one of your Braille dots there MDhere. 🤣
 
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