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Samus

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Fuck DRC, fuck china, fuck zijin, fuck cominiere SA, happy Easter everyone 🐰 and
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Frank

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Mate, thanks for posting that article.

My head hurts after reading it in full. Wow, what an expose.

While the article confirms what we already know about endemic corruption in the DRC facilitated by Chinese miners, the ongoing involvement of Kabila's family and their cronies in the systematic looting of DRC mining products rather surprised me. Moreover, their links to Zambia's and Rwanda's hierarchies are equally interesting.

It seems that the Kabila mafiosi family is no different from the Tshisekedi mafiosi family.

Both are defined by egregious greed and the eye-watering systematic theft of public resources.

A pox on them and their families, and their families' families.

Happy Easter

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The Democratic Republic of Congo government will initiate legal proceedings against former President Joseph Kabila for allegedly supporting Rwanda-backed M23 rebels in the country’s mineral-rich east.

Kabila crossed into the rebel-controlled city of Goma from neighboring Rwanda on Friday, infuriating the government of current President Felix Tshisekedi.

On Saturday, Congo’s justice ministry announced it would take legal action against Kabila and the interior ministry suspended his political party.

The government condemned Kabila’s “deliberate choice to return to the country through the city of Goma under control of the enemy, which curiously assured his security,” Interior Minister Jacquemain Shabani said in a statement published on social media.

M23 rebels took over Goma with Rwandan support in a bloody battle in January, and have since continued to expand their territory in eastern Congo, drawing international condemnation and sanctions.

Rwanda has denied backing the group.

Tshisekedi has previously accused Kabila of backing the rebellion and “preparing an insurrection.”

The justice ministry said it would seize Kabila’s assets in the country and has placed travel restrictions on unnamed Kabila associates.

By Michael J Kavanagh



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Restraint appears to be the order of the day following the arrival of former president and opposition figure Joseph Kabila in Goma, a city under the control of the Rwandan-backed AFC/M23 rebellion.

The government, the opposition, and civil society are watching in silence, wondering what the next moves will be for the man who led the country from 2001 to 2018.

Meeting in Lubumbashi under the chairmanship of the Head of State, the latest session of the Council of Ministers did not mention Joseph Kabila's arrival in Goma, either in comments or during a briefing.

This was the assurance of a government official, eager to calm speculation. Another official, meanwhile, sought confirmation from us of this arrival, which was deemed sensitive.

This Saturday afternoon in Lubumbashi, government spokesperson Patrick Muyaya spoke at a press conference, albeit with great caution.

I didn't see it, I heard it, obviously.

We read articles, we wait to see, we wait to listen, because perhaps we shouldn't presume certain things.

But here, we must first know that the President of the Republic had been talking about it for several weeks.

He said that his predecessor had been linked to the AFC for several months.

Now that he's decided to return, I don't have confirmation yet; we'll see what will be said because we mustn't forget that President Kabila himself fought the M23.

We mustn't forget that he was Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

We are rather confident behind the President of the Republic with the strategy we have implemented on all fronts, which allows us not only to end this war for now, but to end it forever.

The former president's return via Goma—a city currently under the control of the AFC/M23—is perceived by some in power as implicit evidence of his closeness to the rebellion.

"It doesn't surprise us," confided an influential source close to the head of state.

Kabila's entourage in Goma firmly rejects this interpretation. The former president, now a senator for life, reportedly returned as a "man of peace" with no intention of supporting any rebel movement.

His agenda remains unknown to the general public, but a speech is reportedly planned in the coming days.

"For now, we simply note that an opponent has returned to the country.

It is his future actions that will allow us to determine his position in the current crisis," a diplomat based in Kinshasa told us this Saturday, April 19.

The opposition ranks are equally cautious, including those close to Martin Fayulu, who consider Joseph Kabila a key player in the country's political and security solution.

In Kinshasa, the former president's political coalition, the FCC, remains silent and refrains from any comment on his stay in the east of the country.

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The Democratic Republic of Congo government will initiate legal proceedings against former President Joseph Kabila for allegedly supporting Rwanda-backed M23 rebels in the country’s mineral-rich east.

Kabila crossed into the rebel-controlled city of Goma from neighboring Rwanda on Friday, infuriating the government of current President Felix Tshisekedi.

On Saturday, Congo’s justice ministry announced it would take legal action against Kabila and the interior ministry suspended his political party.

The government condemned Kabila’s “deliberate choice to return to the country through the city of Goma under control of the enemy, which curiously assured his security,” Interior Minister Jacquemain Shabani said in a statement published on social media.

M23 rebels took over Goma with Rwandan support in a bloody battle in January, and have since continued to expand their territory in eastern Congo, drawing international condemnation and sanctions.

Rwanda has denied backing the group.

Tshisekedi has previously accused Kabila of backing the rebellion and “preparing an insurrection.”

The justice ministry said it would seize Kabila’s assets in the country and has placed travel restrictions on unnamed Kabila associates.

By Michael J Kavanagh



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Restraint appears to be the order of the day following the arrival of former president and opposition figure Joseph Kabila in Goma, a city under the control of the Rwandan-backed AFC/M23 rebellion.

The government, the opposition, and civil society are watching in silence, wondering what the next moves will be for the man who led the country from 2001 to 2018.

Meeting in Lubumbashi under the chairmanship of the Head of State, the latest session of the Council of Ministers did not mention Joseph Kabila's arrival in Goma, either in comments or during a briefing.

This was the assurance of a government official, eager to calm speculation. Another official, meanwhile, sought confirmation from us of this arrival, which was deemed sensitive.

This Saturday afternoon in Lubumbashi, government spokesperson Patrick Muyaya spoke at a press conference, albeit with great caution.

I didn't see it, I heard it, obviously.

We read articles, we wait to see, we wait to listen, because perhaps we shouldn't presume certain things.

But here, we must first know that the President of the Republic had been talking about it for several weeks.

He said that his predecessor had been linked to the AFC for several months.

Now that he's decided to return, I don't have confirmation yet; we'll see what will be said because we mustn't forget that President Kabila himself fought the M23.

We mustn't forget that he was Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

We are rather confident behind the President of the Republic with the strategy we have implemented on all fronts, which allows us not only to end this war for now, but to end it forever.

The former president's return via Goma—a city currently under the control of the AFC/M23—is perceived by some in power as implicit evidence of his closeness to the rebellion.

"It doesn't surprise us," confided an influential source close to the head of state.

Kabila's entourage in Goma firmly rejects this interpretation. The former president, now a senator for life, reportedly returned as a "man of peace" with no intention of supporting any rebel movement.

His agenda remains unknown to the general public, but a speech is reportedly planned in the coming days.

"For now, we simply note that an opponent has returned to the country.

It is his future actions that will allow us to determine his position in the current crisis," a diplomat based in Kinshasa told us this Saturday, April 19.

The opposition ranks are equally cautious, including those close to Martin Fayulu, who consider Joseph Kabila a key player in the country's political and security solution.

In Kinshasa, the former president's political coalition, the FCC, remains silent and refrains from any comment on his stay in the east of the country.

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Joseph Kabila was trained in China.
China will protect its interests in the DRC.
China built the DRC parliament building. They highly likely planted camera's and microphones in the toilets, etc.

Felix turning to USA for assistance and offering its mining wealth is of course asking China to react.

So, why be surprised that Kabila (with support from China) will not attempt to take a second bite of the DRC cherry?

I would say Kabila is as bad as Felix, if not worse.
 
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ptlas

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This is gonna run and run unless the Yanks have a way to blow the thing wide open in AVZs favour. I suspect that they do, but not tomorrow.
But what does this interweb anon know?

Honestly, my head is finally starting to hurt after last what, three years? Been a holder since the rise to 30c eight or nine years ago. FFS.

Zillions of if, buts and maybes. I feel like discussing it is like herding cats.
More smoke and mirrors than ever.

Got 40% in SMSF the remainder in personal.
Accountant knows what he's doing just doesn't know under what scenario this will finally end.
I've finally started to at least partially withdraw from here, life goes on.

Still visit every couple of days, as the comments and intel' are just too good ( but on the understanding that I can't even dream of influencing this in the minutest of ways ).
Not to mention the psychological support that I don't seem to notice that I need because it's provided by the good burghers here.
Thank you.

As my beloved Liverpool FC says "You'll never walk alone " and that is what this thread gives me more than anything.
There will be more ups and downs.
Stay strong.
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BRICK

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Happy Easter ALL !

And lets hope this is the last Easter that we speculate on when and how much compensation we are going to receive for the utter bullshit / chaos we have had to put up with for nearly 3 yrs.

I gotta say tho, despite all of this never ending garbage, its been a absolute pleasure to be mixing it with a great bunch of comrades.

This forum has held its head up high, been respectful and the intel remains second to none .........as always.

I dont give a fark about the taxes i may have to pay..........just

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Happy Easter Mate.

You’re right, If I’m paying tax then I’ll be happy because I’m out.
 
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China's straggle hold over DRC government past and present is unwavering . It's just fanciful to think they will allow such important asset to fall to the hands of another nation . No option now except for the legal journey over many years . Unfortunately this is reality now for AVZ share holder. Nothing has changed despite all the hype around US help. The DRC Government will follow China orders. This is a personal opinion .Good luck everyone.
 
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Hemicuda

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China's straggle hold over DRC government past and present is unwavering . It's just fanciful to think they will allow such important asset to fall to the hands of another nation . No option now except for the legal journey over many years . Unfortunately this is reality now for AVZ share holder. Nothing has changed despite all the hype around US help. The DRC Government will follow China orders. This is a personal opinion .Good luck everyone.
Fuck off cunt
 
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China's straggle hold over DRC government past and present is unwavering . It's just fanciful to think they will allow such important asset to fall to the hands of another nation . No option now except for the legal journey over many years . Unfortunately this is reality now for AVZ share holder. Nothing has changed despite all the hype around US help. The DRC Government will follow China orders. This is a personal opinion .Good luck everyone.
Remember when Trump threatened North Korea with ‘fire and fury’ and then still managed to make history by being the first sitting US President to step foot inside the country?

Stranger things have happened than a DRC President facing a rebellion that offers a minerals for security deal to the US President then making said deal

Perhaps Lenny will be there at the 13359 and 15775 border to welcome Trump just like he was at the DMZ

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China's straggle hold over DRC government past and present is unwavering . It's just fanciful to think they will allow such important asset to fall to the hands of another nation . No option now except for the legal journey over many years . Unfortunately this is reality now for AVZ share holder. Nothing has changed despite all the hype around US help. The DRC Government will follow China orders. This is a personal opinion .Good luck everyone.
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Frank

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Joseph Kabila was trained in China.
China will protect its interests in the DRC.
China built the DRC parliament building. They highly likely planted camera's and microphones in the toilets, etc.

Felix turning to USA for assistance and offering its mining wealth is of course asking China to react.

So, why be surprised that Kabila (with support from China) will not attempt to take a second bite of the DRC cherry?

I would say Kabila is as bad as Felix, if not worse.

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Happy Easter all!
 
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BEISHA

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China's straggle hold over DRC government past and present is unwavering . It's just fanciful to think they will allow such important asset to fall to the hands of another nation . No option now except for the legal journey over many years . Unfortunately this is reality now for AVZ share holder. Nothing has changed despite all the hype around US help. The DRC Government will follow China orders. This is a personal opinion .Good luck everyone.
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