AVZ Discussion 2022

Hudnut

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Trump doesnt seem to be having much success on his big deals so far, namely:
  1. hostages in gaza - no progress
  2. urkaine war - now threatening to pull out us out of process and leave it to them to fight it out
  3. tariffs - xi not caving in or calling trump, absolutely chaos for trade worldwide
so maybe progress is being made behind closed doors but I get the sense the us administration are having a bit of a wakeup call that its not so easy to bully foreign nations.

I raise this as I wonder where this puts the african/drc deal. On one hand he'll be desperate for some wins, so thats positive, on the other hand so far he's shown he's losing on the foreign policy front and given drc is complex, maybe its beyond him to get something done. I'm certainly glad he's involved as its generally the first sign of hope for avz shareholders for a while but I have my fears its beyond the current administration to get a deal done. time will tell and I'm hoping a lot, desperate in fact for a positive outcome but so far all I see out of him is chaos and failure.

In all of the above cases, they have an established military capability.
In the case of Gaza, there is also multigenerational religious fervour and conviction.

A believe Felix should (or is) actually be fearful of his life regarding a coup or retribution should M23 rebels continue to press on.
That shoul be a powerful motivator.
 
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Spikerama

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In all of the above cases, they have an established military capability.
In the case of Gaza, there is also multigenerational religious fervour and conviction.

A believe Felix should (or is) actually be fearful of his life regarding a coup or retribution should M23 rebels continue to press on.
That shoul be a powerful motivator.

How fearful can you be when you can just jump on the Presidential Jet and land somewhere friendly? Unless of course, along with the billions, some states can confiscate the transport as well. But that would be a diplomatic minefield I imagine..
 
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Dom1974

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Does anyone know what our current cash position is? A bulk of the Pei cash would have gone to DLA, and now that we are sided with the US, I reckon there is no chance of getting the second $10m from Pei. Does Nigel have enough cash to see ICSID through to the end if required? Has anyone asked? It got me thinking as to why DRC are loading up ICSID with jurisdiction garbage with 3 submissions in 3 weeks. Chinese pushing DRC to try the time wasting/bankrupt angle again? I hope Nigel has a contingency and doesn’t put all his hope on this US deal, as we don’t want to rely on another Pei style Hail Mary to save us from going under. Lastly, now with all this global exposure with Kobold/Rio talk, does that make our access to funding easier (if needed)?
 
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Winenut

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Does anyone know what our current cash position is? A bulk of the Pei cash would have gone to DLA, and now that we are sided with the US, I reckon there is no chance of getting the second $10m from Pei. Does Nigel have enough cash to see ICSID through to the end if required? Has anyone asked? It got me thinking as to why DRC are loading up ICSID with jurisdiction garbage with 3 submissions in 3 weeks. Chinese pushing DRC to try the time wasting/bankrupt angle again? I hope Nigel has a contingency and doesn’t put all his hope on this US deal, as we don’t want to rely on another Pei style Hail Mary to save us from going under. Lastly, now with all this global exposure with Kobold/Rio talk, does that make our access to funding easier (if needed)?
Quite sure DLA's fees won't amount to $20M....

You can settle down I reckon

Mr Pei doesn't care what side......he wants the best monetary and lithium outcome he can get....and that's sticking with AVZ
 
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Dom1974

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Quite sure DLA's fees won't amount to $20M....

You can settle down I reckon

Mr Pei doesn't care what side......he wants the best monetary and lithium outcome he can get....and that's sticking with AVZ
Not sure where $20m came from? I recall Pei paying $10m, which is $15m AUD.

Anyway, I’d still like to know how much cash is in the Bank and if arrangement with CATH is still in play, despite AVZ negotiating to sell the asset to the US. If not, no second $10m tranche is forthcoming.

US are trying to limit the access China has to critical minerals, so my guess is that any sale to the US would exclude supply to any Chinese companies.

Without a US deal and if we’ve burnt our bridge with Pei, AVZ still has at least 2 years of ICC and ICSID with associated lawyer fees.

Just keeping a level head and opening up discussion to consider worst case scenario, because we’ve had our fair share of crap thrown at us last 3 years.

All imo.
 
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US Makes Progress on Minerals Deal With Congo, Adviser Says

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The US may provide financing to companies operating in the Democratic Republic of Congo through the Export–Import Bank of the United States and the US International Development Finance Corp. as part of a potential critical minerals partnership, a senior US official said.

The financial institutions would support investment in the so-called Lobito Corridor, a major rail-infrastructure initiative linking Congo, Zambia and Angola to the Atlantic Ocean through a port in Angola that the DFC has already committed funding to, Massad Boulos, senior adviser for Africa at the US State Department, said in an online briefing on Thursday.

“The project has progressed considerably especially on the Angolan side,” he said.

“We are now discussing with the Congolese and Tshisekedi’s administration to work on the Congolese side with regards to railways, highways, but also power projects including dams and hydroelectric projects.”

Read More: Trump Aid Freeze Threatens $1 Billion African Minerals Project

Boulos visited Congo’s capital, Kinshasa, this to discuss an offer by President Felix Tshisekedi to invest in the country’s mining industry in exchange for security assistance in the nation’s fight against a rebel group in eastern Congo backed by neighboring Rwanda. He also visited the leaders of Rwanda, Kenya and Uganda.

“The United States will consider all diplomatic and economic tools to advance peace,” Boulos said.

Congo is the world’s second-largest source of copper and the biggest source of electric-vehicle battery mineral cobalt.

It also holds vast deposits of critical minerals including lithium, tantalum and manganese.

Rwanda should cease all military support for M23 and withdraw all troops from Congolese territory, Boulos said, adding that his talks with President Paul Kagame about the conflict in eastern Congo were “very fruitful and productive.”

The East African nation has long denied US, European Union and United Nations expert claims that it supports, arms, fights alongside and trains M23.

By Simon Marks

April 18, 2025 — With assistance from Michael J Kavanagh


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Hudnut

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How fearful can you be when you can just jump on the Presidential Jet and land somewhere friendly? Unless of course, along with the billions, some states can confiscate the transport as well. But that would be a diplomatic minefield I imagine..

He'd better have the jet fueled and live in the hangar.

A defining point of most successful coups is the element of surprise, with military support.
 
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And now Joseph Kabila, Tshisekedi's predecessor, announces his return from exile to the Congo to "support the search for a solution."
Yeah right. Kabila smells blood and is positioning to seize power is more like it.

As it increasingly appears Felix is a lame duck, especially after his secret funds were conveniently exposed, it's a gimme for Kabila or others to easily exploit the situation with a popular uprising.

Frigging clown show.
 
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An interesting article
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Frank

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Yeah right. Kabila smells blood and is positioning to seize power is more like it.

As it increasingly appears Felix is a lame duck, especially after his secret funds were conveniently exposed, it's a gimme for Kabila or others to easily exploit the situation with a popular uprising.

Frigging clown show.

What does Kabila want in the Congo?​

Kabila is controversial. At the end of his two terms, he refused to resign in 2016.

The son of former President Laurent Kabila came to power after the assassination of his father in 2001 and was in office until 2019.

Elections were postponed, and protests were made. He has been living in exile since 2023, most recently in South Africa.

After the rebels took over the city of Bukavu, Tshisekedi had publicly accused his predecessor at the Munich Security Conference of being responsible for the conflict in eastern Congo and to be on the side of the M23 militia and Rwanda.

Kabila rejects these charges, but is said to have held talks with the Congolese opposition and representatives of civil society.

Tshisekedi, who is already under pressure from domestic politics due to the crisis in eastern Congo, feels threatened.


Kabila in Goma: Concerns Mount and a Political Storm Looms on the Horizon

Joseph Kabila's visit to Goma on April 18 left no one indifferent.

With the city occupied by the M23, the former president's presence raises important questions about his continued role in Congolese politics.


The alleged relationship between Kabila and Corneille Nangaa, the leader of the Alliance of Congolese Forces (AFC), adds a layer of complexity to this already tense situation.

Therefore, it is safe to say that the political and security storm is shaping up to be very tense.

It is difficult not to see Kabila as the mastermind behind the AFC.

His visit to Goma appears to be sending a strong signal to both political actors and public opinion.

This visit could be interpreted as an attempt to reassert his influence in a region tormented by armed conflicts and political rivalries.

Kabila's supporters, as well as his detractors, cannot ignore the symbolic importance of this move.

This presence in Goma only heightens fears of an escalation of violence between pro-Kabila supporters and the current government.

Tensions are palpable, and the situation could quickly escalate if appropriate measures are not taken.

The Congolese political scene is already marked by extreme polarization, and the intervention of figures like Kabila only fuels the flames of animosity.

At the same time, MP Elisezer Ntambwe's initiative to abolish the law protecting Kabila demonstrates a desire for change within Parliament.

This move is not only a challenge to Kabila's legacy, but also an affirmation of a collective desire for renewal.

The Congolese people aspire to a future where peace and stability prevail over conflicts of interest and power struggles.

Joseph Kabila's visit to Goma is a pivotal moment in the DRC's political landscape.

It reminds everyone that the stakes are high and that the choices made today will have repercussions for the country's future.

In this context, it is crucial that political actors, both national and international, assume their responsibilities to prevent a further escalation of violence.

Peace in the Democratic Republic of Congo must not be mere wishful thinking, but a goal to be achieved through concrete actions and inclusive dialogue.


Political and security crisis: During a stay in Goma, Joseph Kabila reportedly plans to hold talks with M23 leaders

The rumors have finally been confirmed.


The former Congolese president, long suspected by the authorities in Kinshasa of being the instigator of the M23 rebellion, returned to the country this Friday, April 18, 2025, after more than a year in exile.

This return took place in complete secrecy.

According to concordant sources cross-checked by Netic-News, Joseph Kabila, a senator for life, arrived from Kigali and crossed the Congolese-Rwandan border via Goma, in North Kivu province.

In a recent letter to Jeune Afrique, the former head of state already announced his imminent return.

Information obtained by our editorial team suggests that he may soon speak publicly about the country's political and security situation.

According to our sources, Joseph Kabila is planning to meet with M23 leaders and several prominent figures from North Kivu in Goma.

This reappearance comes at a time when some Kabila family residences are receiving renewed attention from Congolese authorities.

However, it appears that the former president's presence in Goma may be short-lived.

The exact motives for this trip remain unclear, although his announced address to the nation could shed more light on the true reasons for this return, which remains unclear.

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Frank

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An interesting article
*Whats a measly little $8B compared to the

$58 Billion "Missing" in the Extractive Sector

The extractive sector in the DRC, a pillar of the national economy, is at the center of a financial storm.


A report by the Center for Research on Public Finance and Local Development (CREFDL), published in April 2025, reveals alarming disparities between wealth produced and revenue collected by the state between 2020 and 2022 in the mining and oil sector.

According to the document, the DRC extracted $71.3 billion worth of raw materials (copper, cobalt, oil, etc.).

But only $12.5 billion (17.53%) was paid to the public treasury.

CREFDEL also indicates that $58.7 billion remains unaccounted for in budget documents.

"These discrepancies raise questions about governance and transparency," warns CREFDL.

Conflicting Figures


Government data and those of the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) differ significantly on several points.

The report mentions a USD 943 million gap in total revenues from the sector.

It also indicates that USD 94.1 million was not declared to the EITI for the Mining Fund (FOMIN), intended for future generations.


Furthermore, the report also denounces the alleged diversion of USD 100 million from the FOMIN to the public treasury via unredeemed government bonds.

Growth Not Benefiting the State

Despite a spectacular increase in production (+50% in three years), public revenues have stagnated.

For example, the country produced over 159% of the value of cobalt, but tax revenues have not increased.


The same is true for oil.

The sector is plagued by opaque reporting.

Recommendations

Thus, this NGO makes a few recommendations.

These include processing minerals locally to maximize profits.

Then, the NGO believes an audit is necessary.

The revenue chain must be "audited with the help of the Court of Auditors."

This center also recommends strengthening transparency mechanisms within the EITI process in the DRC.

Finally, Crefdel believes it is necessary to accelerate the digitalization of regulatory authorities to limit fraud.



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An interesting article


Compare the pair.




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Flight996

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Mate, thanks for posting that article.

My head hurts after reading it in full. Wow, what an expose.

While the article confirms what we already know about endemic corruption in the DRC facilitated by Chinese miners, the ongoing involvement of Kabila's family and their cronies in the systematic looting of DRC mining products rather surprised me. Moreover, their links to Zambia's and Rwanda's hierarchies are equally interesting.

It seems that the Kabila mafiosi family is no different from the Tshisekedi mafiosi family.

Both are defined by egregious greed and the eye-watering systematic theft of public resources.

A pox on them and their families, and their families' families.

Happy Easter

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Give me my money and let me leave this circus forever thanks 🎪
 
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Happy Easter ALL !

And lets hope this is the last Easter that we speculate on when and how much compensation we are going to receive for the utter bullshit / chaos we have had to put up with for nearly 3 yrs.

I gotta say tho, despite all of this never ending garbage, its been a absolute pleasure to be mixing it with a great bunch of comrades.

This forum has held its head up high, been respectful and the intel remains second to none .........as always.

I dont give a fark about the taxes i may have to pay..........just

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