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AVZ Discussion 2022
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Trump doesnt seem to be having much success on his big deals so far, namely:
I raise this as I wonder where this puts the african/drc deal. On one hand he'll be desperate for some wins, so thats positive, on the other hand so far he's shown he's losing on the foreign policy front and given drc is complex, maybe its beyond him to get something done. I'm certainly glad he's involved as its generally the first sign of hope for avz shareholders for a while but I have my fears its beyond the current administration to get a deal done. time will tell and I'm hoping a lot, desperate in fact for a positive outcome but so far all I see out of him is chaos and failure.
- hostages in gaza - no progress
- urkaine war - now threatening to pull out us out of process and leave it to them to fight it out
- tariffs - xi not caving in or calling trump, absolutely chaos for trade worldwide
I raise this as I wonder where this puts the african/drc deal. On one hand he'll be desperate for some wins, so thats positive, on the other hand so far he's shown he's losing on the foreign policy front and given drc is complex, maybe its beyond him to get something done. I'm certainly glad he's involved as its generally the first sign of hope for avz shareholders for a while but I have my fears its beyond the current administration to get a deal done. time will tell and I'm hoping a lot, desperate in fact for a positive outcome but so far all I see out of him is chaos and failure.
In all of the above cases, they have an established military capability.
In the case of Gaza, there is also multigenerational religious fervour and conviction.
A believe Felix should (or is) actually be fearful of his life regarding a coup or retribution should M23 rebels continue to press on.
That shoul be a powerful motivator.
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How fearful can you be when you can just jump on the Presidential Jet and land somewhere friendly? Unless of course, along with the billions, some states can confiscate the transport as well. But that would be a diplomatic minefield I imagine..
Does anyone know what our current cash position is? A bulk of the Pei cash would have gone to DLA, and now that we are sided with the US, I reckon there is no chance of getting the second $10m from Pei. Does Nigel have enough cash to see ICSID through to the end if required? Has anyone asked? It got me thinking as to why DRC are loading up ICSID with jurisdiction garbage with 3 submissions in 3 weeks. Chinese pushing DRC to try the time wasting/bankrupt angle again? I hope Nigel has a contingency and doesn’t put all his hope on this US deal, as we don’t want to rely on another Pei style Hail Mary to save us from going under. Lastly, now with all this global exposure with Kobold/Rio talk, does that make our access to funding easier (if needed)?
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Quite sure DLA's fees won't amount to $20M....
You can settle down I reckon
Mr Pei doesn't care what side......he wants the best monetary and lithium outcome he can get....and that's sticking with AVZ
Not sure where $20m came from? I recall Pei paying $10m, which is $15m AUD.
Anyway, I’d still like to know how much cash is in the Bank and if arrangement with CATH is still in play, despite AVZ negotiating to sell the asset to the US. If not, no second $10m tranche is forthcoming.
US are trying to limit the access China has to critical minerals, so my guess is that any sale to the US would exclude supply to any Chinese companies.
Without a US deal and if we’ve burnt our bridge with Pei, AVZ still has at least 2 years of ICC and ICSID with associated lawyer fees.
Just keeping a level head and opening up discussion to consider worst case scenario, because we’ve had our fair share of crap thrown at us last 3 years.
All imo.
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He'd better have the jet fueled and live in the hangar.
A defining point of most successful coups is the element of surprise, with military support.
Yeah right. Kabila smells blood and is positioning to seize power is more like it.
As it increasingly appears Felix is a lame duck, especially after his secret funds were conveniently exposed, it's a gimme for Kabila or others to easily exploit the situation with a popular uprising.
Frigging clown show.
An interesting article
RDC : La plus grande banque suisse bloque les fonds de la famille Tshisekedi, estimés à 8 milliards de dollars, mais les experts soupçonnent qu’une partie de la fortune se trouve au Qatar et aux Émirats arabes unis
Par JeN-LUC KIENGE Dans un coup de théâtre financier qui secoue les milieux bancaires et politiques, la plus grande banque suisse, UBS, a confirmé avoir gelé des fonds appartenant à la famille Tshi…vacradiointernational.com
An interesting article
RDC : La plus grande banque suisse bloque les fonds de la famille Tshisekedi, estimés à 8 milliards de dollars, mais les experts soupçonnent qu’une partie de la fortune se trouve au Qatar et aux Émirats arabes unis
Par JeN-LUC KIENGE Dans un coup de théâtre financier qui secoue les milieux bancaires et politiques, la plus grande banque suisse, UBS, a confirmé avoir gelé des fonds appartenant à la famille Tshi…vacradiointernational.com
China Cash Flowed Through Congo Bank to Former President’s Cronies
A leak of 3.5 million documents shows how a Chinese-run company moved millions of dollars to former Congo President Joseph Kabila’s family and allies.
www.bloomberg.com
Compare the pair.
Power-sharing Agreement Breaks Down in DRC
When Félix Tshisekedi assumed power in in the Democratic Republic of the Congo at the start of 2019, he did so not because of the will of the voters (who apparently favored a different candidate).
www.cfr.org
China Cash Flowed Through Congo Bank to Former President’s Cronies
A leak of 3.5 million documents shows how a Chinese-run company moved millions of dollars to former Congo President Joseph Kabila’s family and allies.www.bloomberg.com
Mate, thanks for posting that article.
My head hurts after reading it in full. Wow, what an expose.
While the article confirms what we already know about endemic corruption in the DRC facilitated by Chinese miners, the ongoing involvement of Kabila's family and their cronies in the systematic looting of DRC mining products rather surprised me. Moreover, their links to Zambia's and Rwanda's hierarchies are equally interesting.
It seems that the Kabila mafiosi family is no different from the Tshisekedi mafiosi family.
Both are defined by egregious greed and the eye-watering systematic theft of public resources.
A pox on them and their families, and their families' families.
Happy Easter
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Happy Easter ALL !
And lets hope this is the last Easter that we speculate on when and how much compensation we are going to receive for the utter bullshit / chaos we have had to put up with for nearly 3 yrs.
I gotta say tho, despite all of this never ending garbage, its been a absolute pleasure to be mixing it with a great bunch of comrades.
This forum has held its head up high, been respectful and the intel remains second to none .........as always.
I dont give a fark about the taxes i may have to pay..........just
And lets hope this is the last Easter that we speculate on when and how much compensation we are going to receive for the utter bullshit / chaos we have had to put up with for nearly 3 yrs.
I gotta say tho, despite all of this never ending garbage, its been a absolute pleasure to be mixing it with a great bunch of comrades.
This forum has held its head up high, been respectful and the intel remains second to none .........as always.
I dont give a fark about the taxes i may have to pay..........just
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Frank
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The Democratic Republic of Congo government will initiate legal proceedings against former President Joseph Kabila for allegedly supporting Rwanda-backed M23 rebels in the country’s mineral-rich east.
Kabila crossed into the rebel-controlled city of Goma from neighboring Rwanda on Friday, infuriating the government of current President Felix Tshisekedi.
On Saturday, Congo’s justice ministry announced it would take legal action against Kabila and the interior ministry suspended his political party.
The government condemned Kabila’s “deliberate choice to return to the country through the city of Goma under control of the enemy, which curiously assured his security,” Interior Minister Jacquemain Shabani said in a statement published on social media.
M23 rebels took over Goma with Rwandan support in a bloody battle in January, and have since continued to expand their territory in eastern Congo, drawing international condemnation and sanctions.
Rwanda has denied backing the group.
Tshisekedi has previously accused Kabila of backing the rebellion and “preparing an insurrection.”
The justice ministry said it would seize Kabila’s assets in the country and has placed travel restrictions on unnamed Kabila associates.
By Michael J Kavanagh
Restraint appears to be the order of the day following the arrival of former president and opposition figure Joseph Kabila in Goma, a city under the control of the Rwandan-backed AFC/M23 rebellion.
The government, the opposition, and civil society are watching in silence, wondering what the next moves will be for the man who led the country from 2001 to 2018.
Meeting in Lubumbashi under the chairmanship of the Head of State, the latest session of the Council of Ministers did not mention Joseph Kabila's arrival in Goma, either in comments or during a briefing.
This was the assurance of a government official, eager to calm speculation. Another official, meanwhile, sought confirmation from us of this arrival, which was deemed sensitive.
This Saturday afternoon in Lubumbashi, government spokesperson Patrick Muyaya spoke at a press conference, albeit with great caution.
I didn't see it, I heard it, obviously.
We read articles, we wait to see, we wait to listen, because perhaps we shouldn't presume certain things.
But here, we must first know that the President of the Republic had been talking about it for several weeks.
He said that his predecessor had been linked to the AFC for several months.
Now that he's decided to return, I don't have confirmation yet; we'll see what will be said because we mustn't forget that President Kabila himself fought the M23.
We mustn't forget that he was Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.
We are rather confident behind the President of the Republic with the strategy we have implemented on all fronts, which allows us not only to end this war for now, but to end it forever.
The former president's return via Goma—a city currently under the control of the AFC/M23—is perceived by some in power as implicit evidence of his closeness to the rebellion.
"It doesn't surprise us," confided an influential source close to the head of state.
Kabila's entourage in Goma firmly rejects this interpretation. The former president, now a senator for life, reportedly returned as a "man of peace" with no intention of supporting any rebel movement.
His agenda remains unknown to the general public, but a speech is reportedly planned in the coming days.
"For now, we simply note that an opponent has returned to the country.
It is his future actions that will allow us to determine his position in the current crisis," a diplomat based in Kinshasa told us this Saturday, April 19.
The opposition ranks are equally cautious, including those close to Martin Fayulu, who consider Joseph Kabila a key player in the country's political and security solution.
In Kinshasa, the former president's political coalition, the FCC, remains silent and refrains from any comment on his stay in the east of the country.
Joseph Kabila was trained in China.
China will protect its interests in the DRC.
China built the DRC parliament building. They highly likely planted camera's and microphones in the toilets, etc.
Felix turning to USA for assistance and offering its mining wealth is of course asking China to react.
So, why be surprised that Kabila (with support from China) will not attempt to take a second bite of the DRC cherry?
I would say Kabila is as bad as Felix, if not worse.
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