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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Joseph Kabila denounces the excesses of Félix Tshisekedi's power and calls for resolving the problem of armed groups present in the DRC

After a long period of silence, Joseph Kabila, former President of the Republic, senator for life and moral authority of the FCC (Common Front for the Congo), spoke out on several current issues that are making headlines in the DRC.

He did so through a column published this Sunday, February 23 by the South African newspaper "Sunday Times".

The former head of state notably expressed his point of view on the 2023 presidential election, during which Félix Tshisekedi was re-elected for a second term.

"There were the sham elections of December 2023, organized in violation of the legal framework and international standards.

These elections have amplified the illegitimacy of the power in place, artificially reduced the weight of the opposition and made the head of state the absolute master of the country.

Tshisekedi has also publicly announced his intention to amend the Constitution,” said Joseph Kabila.

He added: “This is a huge democratic setback. The current regime has silenced all forms of political opposition.

Intimidation, arbitrary arrests, summary and extrajudicial executions, as well as the forced exile of politicians, journalists and opinion leaders, including religious leaders, have become characteristic features of Tshisekedi’s governance.”

Regarding the security crisis in the east of the country, marked by the Rwandan occupation, Joseph Kabila believes that stability in this region requires resolving the issue of national and foreign armed groups present on Congolese soil.

“Contrary to what the authorities in Kinshasa want us to believe, the crisis is not limited to the uncontrolled actions of the M23 - wrongly presented as an anarchist group, a proxy of a foreign state without legitimate claims - nor to a simple disagreement between the DRC and Rwanda,” we can read in his column.


The former president was also critical of South Africa and wondered if this country will continue to send troops to the DRC “to support a tyrannical regime and fight the aspirations of the Congolese people.”

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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Can’t believe my brain just read that whole thing exactly in trumps bloody voice 😂
 
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Joseph Kabila denounces the excesses of Félix Tshisekedi's power and calls for resolving the problem of armed groups present in the DRC

After a long period of silence, Joseph Kabila, former President of the Republic, senator for life and moral authority of the FCC (Common Front for the Congo), spoke out on several current issues that are making headlines in the DRC.

He did so through a column published this Sunday, February 23 by the South African newspaper "Sunday Times".

The former head of state notably expressed his point of view on the 2023 presidential election, during which Félix Tshisekedi was re-elected for a second term.

"There were the sham elections of December 2023, organized in violation of the legal framework and international standards.

These elections have amplified the illegitimacy of the power in place, artificially reduced the weight of the opposition and made the head of state the absolute master of the country.

Tshisekedi has also publicly announced his intention to amend the Constitution,” said Joseph Kabila.

He added: “This is a huge democratic setback. The current regime has silenced all forms of political opposition.

Intimidation, arbitrary arrests, summary and extrajudicial executions, as well as the forced exile of politicians, journalists and opinion leaders, including religious leaders, have become characteristic features of Tshisekedi’s governance.”

Regarding the security crisis in the east of the country, marked by the Rwandan occupation, Joseph Kabila believes that stability in this region requires resolving the issue of national and foreign armed groups present on Congolese soil.

“Contrary to what the authorities in Kinshasa want us to believe, the crisis is not limited to the uncontrolled actions of the M23 - wrongly presented as an anarchist group, a proxy of a foreign state without legitimate claims - nor to a simple disagreement between the DRC and Rwanda,” we can read in his column.


The former president was also critical of South Africa and wondered if this country will continue to send troops to the DRC “to support a tyrannical regime and fight the aspirations of the Congolese people.”

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The corrupt criticising the corrupt...........:unsure:

Oh the irony.
 
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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Funniest post of 2025.
You have perfectly mastered Trumpet-speak. Can you also do the Musk-rat?
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How did I miss this episode in the AVZ Netflix series - was that in Season 6?



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The corrupt criticising the corrupt...........:unsure:

Oh the irony.
Kabila highly likely still has strong connections with M23 and is attempting to destabilise and undermine poor Felix with the watches, Joseph also highly likely still has some of his comrades at high places in the government.

One of these days when fat Felix is galavanting around the world, buying photo opportunities with DRC money, he highly likely will be told to get of the plane, so it can go back home without him.

Joseph Kabila, born in South Kivu, following high school, Kabila followed a military curriculum in Tanzania, then at Makerere University in Uganda.
In October 1996, Laurent-Désiré Kabila launched the campaign in Zaire to oust the Mobutu regime with his newly formed army, the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Congo-Zaire (AFDL). Joseph Kabila became the commander of an AFDL unit that included "kadogos" (child soldiers) and likely played a key role in major battles on the road to Kinshasa, but his exact whereabouts during the war have been difficult to establish. Joseph Kabila appears to have been present at the liberation of Kisangani (interesting place),where media reports identified him as commander of the rebel force that took the city after four days of intense fighting.

Following the AFDL's victory, and Laurent-Désiré Kabila's rise to the presidency, Joseph Kabila went on to get further training at the PLA National Defense University, in Beijing, China.

So dear Joseph trained in China and don't forget Kabila's interest in Dathomir!

Joseph getting out in the open with his shit stirring had to happen and he highly likely thinks it is not a bad time to get some news exposure.
Why not do it from South Africa, it is probably safer than doing it from Kinshasa.
He highly likely is supported by China, which is fighting for its Congo mineral interests, while Fat Felix is shopping and hobnobbing in the USA.

All IMO of course
 
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How did I miss this episode in the AVZ Netflix series - was that in Season 6?



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And I thought Kinshasa was one big brothel.

I did enjoy my time in Africa.
I loved the limbo dancers, I tried it, but the beer bottles were too small for me.

 
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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Very entertaining on the Trump speak but I also reckon this one from Rhyno was a pearler :ROFLMAO:

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Transcript of Felix’s meeting just leaked

"Felix, my friend, great guy, strong leader, but listen—we’ve got a situation, a big one, maybe the biggest. AVZ Minerals—total disaster, total mess. The Chinese? Taking over, like they always do—bad for the DRC, bad for America, bad for everybody. And the Australians? Great people, love the Australians, they’re tough, they know mining better than anyone, but let’s be honest—they’re getting squeezed out, totally unfair. Now, my friend Elon—brilliant guy, maybe the smartest, loves electric cars, doing amazing things—he needs lithium, and you’ve got the best lithium. We can make a deal, a tremendous deal—America wins, DRC wins, even the Australians win. No rip-offs, no shady deals—just a big, beautiful win. Let’s make it happen, Felix. People are talking, they say we should do it. I think we should do it. Tremendous opportunity!"

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Don't anyone tell Felix that there's a sector of the country's infrastructure that he has not already looted.

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I am fascinated by Nigel being in the US. So was the AVZ team invited to the meeting or did they just show up? Would find it hard to believe that Nigel and Ben just decided to head off to the US hoping he would find some value at this forum. Very interesting!
 
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War in the East: would concluding mining contracts with major powers be the remedy to stabilize the DRC?

Because everyone supported Rwanda for Congolese strategic materials, "the DRC is ready for its security and prosperity to trade in ethical and transparent conditions," they have been saying for some time in Kinshasa.

As for Ukraine, would concluding mining contracts with major powers be the remedy to stabilize the DRC?

Strategic minerals

At a time when Washington wants to condition military aid to Kiev on obtaining contracts to exploit Ukrainian natural resources, President Tshisekedi is reportedly seeking "to conclude an agreement on minerals with the United States," reports the American newspaper NEW YORK TIMES.

In his first interview since the Rwandan army took over Goma, “President Felix Tshisekedi offered the United States and Europe a stake in his country’s vast mineral wealth, a sector currently dominated by China.”

Coltan, to power smartphones and computers, cobalt used in electric vehicles, President Tshisekedi “seems eager to capitalize on this situation as he tries to manage a conflict he says is similar to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.”

He “pins his hopes on Western pressure against Rwanda and believes that major investments, including a potential minerals deal, would bring much greater security and stability.”

While the European Parliament has called for the deal with Rwanda to be suspended until the country stops all interference in the DRC, “including the export of minerals extracted from areas controlled by the M23,” the president is making a better offer at a time when “the crisis is at a crucial moment.”

After the US sanctions (Thursday), the United Nations Security Council adopted a binding resolution against Rwanda.

“The Trump administration has already expressed interest in an agreement that could ensure a flow of strategic minerals directly from Congo,” said Félix Tshisekedi.

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DRC STRENGTHENS MINERAL TRACEABILITY AMID RISING CONFLICT IN THE EAST​

FEBRUARY 23, 2025 CONSTANCE
At a briefing on Tuesday, February 18, 2025, Minister of Mines Kizito Pakabomba reaffirmed the Congolese government’s commitment to strengthening mineral traceability in response to ongoing conflict in the East, exacerbated by Rwanda’s support for the M23 rebel group.

Pakabomba highlighted that the DRC has undertaken significant measures to ensure its minerals meet international certification standards, particularly for the U.S. and European markets.

With the United States, we are engaged in the Mineral Security Partnership (MSP) to certify DRC’s minerals, ensuring their traceability and preventing conflict minerals from entering supply chains,” he stated. “This initiative guarantees that our resources are responsibly sourced, upholding human rights and ethical mining practices.”

As part of this initiative, the DRC has developed a roadmap with the MSP’s 14 member countries and the European Union to facilitate direct partnerships for responsible mineral supply chains.

Pakabomba also recalled that in 2022, the DRC signed a memorandum of understanding with the European Union for the supply of critical minerals.

In December 2024, a roadmap for mineral exports to Western markets was validated by the EU. These efforts aim to secure direct partnerships with the DRC, preventing illicit mineral flows through Rwanda.

Despite these efforts, the European Union and companies like Apple continue to source minerals from Rwanda, indirectly fueling the conflict in eastern DRC.

A 2024 UN report revealed that 150 tonnes of coltan are illegally mined in Rubaya, eastern DRC, and smuggled into Rwanda before being resold under a strategic minerals agreement signed with the EU in February 2024.

Pakabomba emphasized that these illicit trade networks undermine DRC’s sovereignty and perpetuate instability in the region. The government remains committed to working with international partners to ensure that DRC’s minerals reach global markets transparently and ethically.”

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However, Jean Pierre Okenda (a rights lawyer and Senior Analyst in the field of extractive industries governance) in a recent interview with Mongabay, says the DRC hasn’t really addressed mineral traceability with China, just the western countries. (The full interview below is worth reading).


“Mongabay: To go back, it sounds like China is the primary buyer of these minerals from Rwanda. Has the DRC government tried to raise this issue with them?

Jean-Pierre Okenda:
I don’t know if they’ve done anything to discuss this with them. One of the recommendations I have for the government is to declare all the mining sites controlled by M23 as illegal. If you do that it would be a key starting point to start disconnecting some companies from buying those minerals. There are small Chinese companies that work on both sides, in Rwanda and in the Congo. The Chinese investments are not responsible, we know that, so we need them to make their supply chains transparent”

Mongabay: It seems very surprising to me that the DRC hasn’t raised this seriously with its Chinese partners. This is a major crisis, it’s losing territory.

Jean-Pierre Okenda:
That’s a very good question. No one wants the supply chain to become transparent, including Congolese authorities. That’s very important to highlight.

Mongabay: Why would that be?

Jean-Pierre Okenda:
Because you have a huge involvement of Congolese authorities in the artisanal mining sector. They are getting a lot of money. That’s really important. No one really has an interest in making the supply train transparent, not the authorities in Rwanda or in Congo, the middlemen, or Chinese and other companies. We’ve been struggling to formalize artisanal mining across the country, and the authorities are one of the reasons why. Now I think that the war is coming, and I’m sure there’s a fear that they can lose power, they’re doing what they can do to limit it. But previously no one had an interest in normalizing things.

From my perspective, you have so much populist speech here in the DRC that Western countries are supporting Rwanda, providing budget and aid to it. But I don’t understand why the government doesn’t like to discuss China. I think they prefer to focus on the Western countries and pay less attention on the fact that the buyers of these minerals are Chinese. From what I understand from the Ministry of Mines, they are reflecting on how they can sit down with China, but nothing has been done yet. They didn’t even enforce the mining code before. Even myself, I don’t understand this.”

Mongabay: Without being able to put leverage on China, it sounds like it’s going to be very difficult to shut these supply chains down.

Jean-Pierre Okenda:
The impact will be limited. If we want to get the maximum impact, it will mean engaging Western companies to stop, but at the same time we have to leverage the Chinese. That would put pressure on Rwanda, because their budget is dependent on the mining sector. China is the big question mark.”
 
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I am fascinated by Nigel being in the US. So was the AVZ team invited to the meeting or did they just show up? Would find it hard to believe that Nigel and Ben just decided to head off to the US hoping he would find some value at this forum. Very interesting!
I don't mean to be a party pooper and I'm forever an optimist.
But Hunter&Co (people that co organised the event), are a Perth based company, so the likelihood of them just happening to know some other Perth based and Australia based mining companies is very high. So AVZ scoring an invite is great, but it's not like they were necessarily picked out by an international large organisation because of their great work and reputation.

Although the event was specifically targetting Australian and US companies wanting to mine/mining related activities in Africa, which AVZ fits perfectly with possible use of the US lobito corridor. And they were in think tanks with other African nations representatives too.

It's definitely positive, but I wouldnt be jumping for joy just because they went to a US road show organised by a Perth based company.

But hey, maybe the trip just happened to coincide with other business meetings and plans..... 😉
 
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