AVZ Discussion 2022

[Mr_Tones83]

To delay our progress imo

'With regard to the AVZ leader in charge of operations in the DRC, due to their failure to obtain the Lithium and Tin Licence from Manono, the company faced difficulties in raising funds.'

His accusations sound to me like they're coming from someone who has been bought.
Tim will tell.

 

[Carlos Danger]

His accusations sound to me like they're coming from someone who has been bought.
Tim will tell.

That is very different from alleging he stole 20m USD without evidence imo

 

[Mr_Tones83]

That is very different from alleging he stole 20m USD without evidence imo

Re-read it in conjunction with my first post. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[Remark]

Interesting post from Outcast (@Outcast_North) on X regarding threats made to @ChristianLukusa

https://x.com/Outcast_North/status/1848228265346974018

If true not surprising.

 

[TheCount]

Once written up an annoucement will be forthcoming.

Locke?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Re-read it in conjunction with my first post. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I agree they don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive if there is evidence to support claims of money being potentially stolen but you should re-read AVZ's new lawyer's letter and AVZ's announcements on this matter imo

'After careful consideration, the AVZ board has determined a path of recourse regarding allegations of unauthorised transactions involving the Company's escrow account in the DRC'

Key words 'unathorised transactions' imo

 

[Frank]

That one from Kiki is so right and so on the money

Two voices in country that put the full truth out are Kiki and Jonnno

Just speaking and writing the truth.....both of them

Support them both in any way you can

x.com

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[tonster66]

I agree they don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive if there is evidence to support claims of money being potentially stolen but you should re-read AVZ's new lawyer's letter and AVZ's announcements on this matter imo

'After careful consideration, the AVZ board has determined a path of recourse regarding allegations of unauthorised transactions involving the Company's escrow account in the DRC'

Key words 'unathorised transactions' imo

"The company's escrow account", does this mean the company had access to the account?

 

[SilentOne]

An Escrow Account is a financial arrangement where a third party holds and manages funds or assets on behalf of two other parties involved in a transaction. It ensures that both parties fulfill their obligations before the funds are released.

 

[Carlos Danger]

"The company's escrow account", does this mean the company had access to the account?

An Escrow Account is a financial arrangement where a third party holds and manages funds or assets on behalf of two other parties involved in a transaction. It ensures that both parties fulfill their obligations before the funds are released.

 

[tonster66]

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Seems clear that momentum are responsible for the escrow account. Thanks Carlos, where do you get these documents from.

 

[Flight996]

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That informal sentence seems out of place in a document replete with legalese.

Is it just a translation thing (French to English), or should we be skeptical of the document's authenticity? As we are all well aware, there are many fake documents floating around.

Cheers
F

 

[Frank]

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"The abandonment of the regime prohibiting the movement of foreigners in mining areas is not a naivety of our country

President Félix-Antoine Tshsekedi spoke on Friday, October 18, during the Council of Ministers, about the presence and movement of foreigners in mining sites.

In the minutes of this meeting, published on Sunday, October 20, the President of the Republic states that in certain mining regions, foreign operators operate completely illegally.

"Considering that the liberalization of the mining sector, under the Mining Code, has given access to this sector, throughout the Republic, to all economic operators, both national and foreign, the abandonment of the regime prohibiting the movement of foreigners in mining areas should not be seen as a naivety of our country that would give a pass to foreigners to do whatever they want," warned Félix Tshisekedi in the remarks reported in the minutes of the Council of Ministers.

This abandonment, recalls the Head of State, was rather dictated by the need to attract investors and meet the requirement of a good business climate.

In order to put an end to the abuse of the advantages resulting from this liberalization, the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of the Interior, Security, Decentralization and Customary Affairs, the Minister of Mines and all other state services including the General Directorate of Migration have been tasked with "setting up a more elaborate and rigorous control and surveillance system to prevent access to mining sites by foreigners who do not have a regular residence permit in the Democratic Republic of Congo, or an investment in mining."

The ministers and services concerned must present their conclusions within one month.

mediacongo

 

[Winenut]

Slow news day.....

 

[wombat74]

Slow news day.....

Calm before the storm .

 

[Xerof]

Calm before the storm .

Eye of the hurricane

I have a spare pen in case it's needed to write up the announcement

 

[protoje]

Eye of the hurricane

I have a spare pen in case it's needed to write up the announcement

I was just thinking that, how long does it take, like use chat gpt to give it a once over and voila

 

[Carlos Danger]

Seems clear that momentum are responsible for the escrow account. Thanks Carlos, where do you get these documents from.

Yes the whole point of escrow is that the lawyer holding the money becomes legally responsible. The court document detailing AVZ’s request and subsequent granting for an escrow account to be established was in the article last week from econewsdrc. The vast majority of the other documents I have were provided by either 9card or the interview given by Christian Lukusa 2 years ago.

 

[Carlos Danger]

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That informal sentence seems out of place in a document replete with legalese.

Is it just a translation thing (French to English), or should we be skeptical of the document's authenticity? As we are all well aware, there are many fake documents floating around.

Cheers
F

Can you provide an example of the ‘many fake documents floating around’?

Many other allegations have been made about there being fake or possibly photoshopped documents but as yet the only document I’m aware of that has actually been proven fake and not just accused without evidence is the RCCM record that 9card provided a while back showing Zijin had been purportedly removed from Dathcom

 

[Bonsoir]

Yes the whole point of escrow is that the lawyer holding the money becomes legally responsible. The court document detailing AVZ’s request and subsequent granting for an escrow account to be established was in the article last week from econewsdrc. The vast majority of the other documents I have were provided by either 9card or the interview given by Christian Lukusa 2 years ago.

Do you know what become of 9card ?