AVZ Discussion 2022

[Rediah]

I've seen them post in french, but I don't recall ever in Cantonese or Mandarin.

You were right, I started exploring AVZ website again, and under the Arbitration Updates, that was the first time they made the announcement in Chinese.

Since AVZ website will be the only source for getting future updates, they should tidy it up a bit, its about time to get right people on payroll those who are willing to work , I can suggest a name; @Spikerama.

 

[wombat74]

Interesting tolate's reference to CDU . I wonder if H00TS is tolate ?

 

[BRICK]

Interesting tolate's reference to CDU . I wonder if H00TS is tolate ?

So hoots toots tolate?

whos tooting whoooots?

you saying theyre in... ca...hoots?

 

[BRICK]

Subscribe here for all the future announcements alerts, goto the following link

Email Alerts — AVZ Minerals Limited

avzminerals.com.au

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At least they respect your privacy unlike MMGA...

 

[Jazz]

You were right, I started exploring AVZ website again, and under the Arbitration Updates, that was the first time they made the announcement in Chinese.

Since AVZ website will be the only source for getting future updates, they should tidy it up a bit, its about time to get right people on payroll those who are willing to work , I can suggest a name; @Spikerama[/
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Would love to see @Spikerama 's tax loss counter converted into one which shows what assets could have been bought instead of just dollars lost. Eg $200m represented by 3 x hospital, 50 x schools, ambulances etc

For reference $80m for this hospital...

 

[Spikerama]

You were right, I started exploring AVZ website again, and under the Arbitration Updates, that was the first time they made the announcement in Chinese.

Since AVZ website will be the only source for getting future updates, they should tidy it up a bit, its about time to get right people on payroll those who are willing to work , I can suggest a name; @Spikerama.

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Haha cheers mate. I did offer to help them a while back but never heard anything.

The website is not so bad. It's a bit bog standard template type thing but I've seen a lot worse. My issue was always with the investor presentations. They could look so much slicker and more professional in terms of design how the information is delivered but it seems to be a running theme with mining companies to have amateur hour designers.

That said I'd still be up for helping them delivering better comms.

 

[Spikerama]

Would love to see @Spikerama 's tax loss counter converted into one which shows what assets could have been bought instead of just dollars lost. Eg $200m represented by 3 x hospital, 50 x schools, ambulances etc

For reference $80m for this hospital...

Not sure how I could make the counter work that way. It's probably more a series of slides or an infographic that could work to represent that data.

 

[Flight996]

Lets hope for a biding war.

The life of the mine and being likely to be able to influence the spot market should support a healthy premium.

Regards,

SilentOne.

While I agree with your sentiment, my understanding is that the FIRB still has jurisdiction over the sale of Australian companies or their assets to foreigners, which is pretty much how we got in this mess in the first place. This jurisdiction applies to both listed and non-listed (private) companies.

Specifically, foreign persons and entities generally require FIRB approval before acquiring a substantial interest (generally >20%) in an Australian entity that is valued above the relevant monetary threshold. The monetary threshold is A$330 million for investors not from FTA partner countries.

However, if Nigel and team take the business, rename it and domicile it offshore, that's a whole new ball game. Hence the potential to list on another platform such as TSX or LSE.

Cheers
F

 

[Frank]

In Paris, Felix Tshisekedi reassures French investors about the business climate in the DRC

The President of the Republic, Felix Tshisekedi, reassured French investors on Tuesday April 30 in Paris about the business climate in the DRC.

In front of French employers, Felix Tshisekedi said: “I’m waiting for you there”.

It was during the business round table co-organized by MEDEF, French employers and the Federation of Congolese Enterprises (FEC) within the premises of the French Ministry of the Economy.

Presenting certain measures put in place, Felix Tshisekedi reassured everyone about the business climate, the first fear of foreign investors attracted to the DRC.

For Felly Samouna, the president of the national SME commission within the FEC, French investors have expressed their desire to return or strengthen their positions in the DRC in the sectors of energy, agriculture, infrastructure and construction of new towns.

This business round table closed with the signing of two contracts.

This is a contract for the valorization of minerals with GECAMINES and another with MetroKin for the construction of an urban train network in Kinshasa.

President Tshisekedi also confirmed France's involvement in the Grand Inga project.

Before leaving France this Wednesday, May 1, the Head of State met the Congolese community in France.

For Christophe Mafuta, a Congolese jurist and researcher in international relations and diplomacy established for many years in Paris, this rapprochement between the DRC and France is a good thing especially given the major role that France plays in international diplomacy.

However, regarding the economic aspect of this visit by Felix Tshisekedi to Paris, this researcher thinks that the Congolese should not be fooled.

“The DRC must take responsibility to clean its image in relation to all the scandals of embezzlement and corruption which are not hidden,” argued Christophe Mafuta.

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In front of French employers, Felix said: “I’m waiting for you there”.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

While I agree with your sentiment, my understanding is that the FIRB still has jurisdiction over the sale of Australian companies or their assets to foreigners, which is pretty much how we got in this mess in the first place. This jurisdiction applies to both listed and non-listed (private) companies.

Specifically, foreign persons and entities generally require FIRB approval before acquiring a substantial interest (generally >20%) in an Australian entity that is valued above the relevant monetary threshold. The monetary threshold is A$330 million for investors not from FTA partner countries.

However, if Nigel and team take the business, rename it and domicile it offshore, that's a whole new ball game. Hence the potential to list on another platform such as TSX or LSE.

Cheers
F

Plus if we stay listed the Chinese would have a blocking stake on any sale (strategic to their interests) whereas if we’re unlisted it goes to a straight vote which we should easily win given how we all want to move on.

The delisting was more a sign we won’t be looking to mine this and list on the asx, sale would be the primary goal now one would think.

Still can’t help but be disappointed and reminded of how little control one has over their investment with our board now going even darker/less info whilst being paid as if they were a publically listed entity. A lot of trust in management of which I still have little (they’ve been exceptionally greedy in the past).

Wonder if hotcrapper chat can die in the ass now those shorters are going mad over there

 

[Mr_Tones83]

All the 'I told you so'ers coming out of the woodworks on social media now to rub salt into the wounds of holders is so pathetic and just displays a complete lack of class. Dealing with the corrupt scum that have put us in this situation has been mentally draining enough.

 

[John25]

In Paris, Felix Tshisekedi reassures French investors about the business climate in the DRC

The President of the Republic, Felix Tshisekedi, reassured French investors on Tuesday April 30 in Paris about the business climate in the DRC.

In front of French employers, Felix Tshisekedi said: “I’m waiting for you there”.

It was during the business round table co-organized by MEDEF, French employers and the Federation of Congolese Enterprises (FEC) within the premises of the French Ministry of the Economy.

Presenting certain measures put in place, Felix Tshisekedi reassured everyone about the business climate, the first fear of foreign investors attracted to the DRC.

For Felly Samouna, the president of the national SME commission within the FEC, French investors have expressed their desire to return or strengthen their positions in the DRC in the sectors of energy, agriculture, infrastructure and construction of new towns.

This business round table closed with the signing of two contracts.

This is a contract for the valorization of minerals with GECAMINES and another with MetroKin for the construction of an urban train network in Kinshasa.

President Tshisekedi also confirmed France's involvement in the Grand Inga project.

Before leaving France this Wednesday, May 1, the Head of State met the Congolese community in France.

For Christophe Mafuta, a Congolese jurist and researcher in international relations and diplomacy established for many years in Paris, this rapprochement between the DRC and France is a good thing especially given the major role that France plays in international diplomacy.

However, regarding the economic aspect of this visit by Felix Tshisekedi to Paris, this researcher thinks that the Congolese should not be fooled.

“The DRC must take responsibility to clean its image in relation to all the scandals of embezzlement and corruption which are not hidden,” argued Christophe Mafuta.

mediacongo


In front of French employers, Felix said: “I’m waiting for you there”.



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[Cumquat Cap]

I’m sure the French investors can see straight through Felix’ bullshit and lies. Eramet literally left DRC a year ago based on the avz case, I’m sure this was discussed. French much smarter then their DRC counterparts and would see the icc cases the first thing they Google for DD. Encourage everyone to jump over and remind them what’s going on with avz case in currently suspended on twitter for doing just that

 

[BEISHA]

It didn't take long for this tool to rub his chinese funded hands together with glee...


https://twitter.com/tommyr345/status/1785512081124741459?t=Yhm-V7PZT0kG2YFa5culBg&s=19

 

[BEISHA]

All the 'I told you so'ers coming out of the woodworks on social media now to rub salt into the wounds of holders is so pathetic and just displays a complete lack of class. Dealing with the corrupt scum that have put us in this situation has been mentally draining enough.

My advice,stay away from all social media except here mate....

TSE is all class , respect levels high, despite everyone hurting internally about this complete fucked up situation we are ALL facing...

More than ever now, with our mental faculties taking a further battering with AVZ being delisted , comms entering radio silence 2.0, we all need to stick together , comrades in arms, support one another as we enter another marathon in deciphering what will become of our investment....

Ripper bunch of dudes / dudettes here, I wouldnt want to be anywhere else.

 

[Pokok]

“I always said that I dreamed of making my country a kind of Germany of Africa” (Tshisekedi)!

President Félix Tshisekedi has not abandoned his commitment to making his country an economic locomotive on the African continent, drawing inspiration from the German model to stimulate the economic development of the DRC.

Indeed, during his visit to Germany, 11 months after his accession to power, he met former Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Frank-Walter Steinmeier in Berlin, a historic city where the map of the DRC was sketched during the conference of 1884-1885.

Félix Tshisekedi also spoke with the Congolese diaspora in Germany.

In front of an assembly of Congolese, Félix Tshisekedi expressed his desire to see the DRC become the Germany of Africa.

“My mission is to restore the position of the Congo, our country, to its rightful place…

All my interlocutors noted the progress made in the Congo and committed to supporting us to help us steer the Congo towards development.

I committed myself by telling them: come with us and I promise to make Congo the Germany of Africa,” he declared on November 15, 2019.

This year again, at the start of his second term, President Tshisekedi reaffirmed his desire for bilateral collaboration, particularly in terms of infrastructure and clean energy, during his brief visit to Germany.

“I have a lot of admiration for what is being done in Germany.

I have always said that I dreamed of making my country a sort of Germany of Africa, therefore an engine of African development.

When it comes to infrastructure, we have enormous needs, and it is indeed the key to the development of a country.

Whether for road infrastructure or clean energy, especially at the moment.

Congo has assets, but we need investments to develop all of this,” said Félix Tshisekedi in an interview with Deutsche Welle.

During his stay, Head of State Félix Tshisekedi had a one-on-one meeting lasting more than 2 hours with Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Sunday April 28 in Berlin.

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*Congo has assets, but we need investments to develop all of this,” said Félix Tshisekedi

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We need the big turd emoji , he is so full of shit , the German and French investors should go and protest with AVZ sighs , surly the German government are not that stupid to know nothing about this corruption .

 

[Winenut]

While I agree with your sentiment, my understanding is that the FIRB still has jurisdiction over the sale of Australian companies or their assets to foreigners, which is pretty much how we got in this mess in the first place. This jurisdiction applies to both listed and non-listed (private) companies.

Specifically, foreign persons and entities generally require FIRB approval before acquiring a substantial interest (generally >20%) in an Australian entity that is valued above the relevant monetary threshold. The monetary threshold is A$330 million for investors not from FTA partner countries.

However, if Nigel and team take the business, rename it and domicile it offshore, that's a whole new ball game. Hence the potential to list on another platform such as TSX or LSE.

Cheers
F

Dathcom is the entity that people want

It is not domiciled in Australia

FIRB can say nothing if Dathcom is bought out by someone

AVZ Minerals (AVZ) owns 75% of Dathcom via AVZ International (AVZI)

AVZI could sell that interest in Dathcom and kick the money up to its parent company AVZ

AVZ could then choose to distribute the funds to shareholders, satisfy any liabilities and wind up the business with everyone happily riding off into the sunset

$12...$12...$12...

 

[tonster66]

do automic still manage the share register?

 

[cruiser51]

do automic still manage the share register?

This is what it said in the asx announcement:

Can I sell or transfer my shares if I want to?

We recommend that shareholders seek their own advice on this issue as circumstances may vary depending on the individual circumstances of each shareholder. Shareholders can complete an off-market transfer via Automic at https://investor.automic.com.au/ and navigating to the “Off-Market Transfer” section.

Based on that I would say yes.

 

[Pokok]

This is what it said in the asx announcement:

Can I sell or transfer my shares if I want to?

We recommend that shareholders seek their own advice on this issue as circumstances may vary depending on the individual circumstances of each shareholder. Shareholders can complete an off-market transfer via Automic at https://investor.automic.com.au/ and navigating to the “Off-Market Transfer” section.

Based on that I would say yes.

I give it 6 months after that investor.automic.com.au site will crash with the amount of people logging on