Penskefile
Regular
It's now tomorrow
What's the offer
No it’s today, today. Tomorrow isn’t until tomorrow - we are getting a reasonable TO offer tomorrow
AVZ Discussion 2022
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No it’s today, today. Tomorrow isn’t until tomorrow - we are getting a reasonable TO offer tomorrow
Winenut
Go AVZ!
I was playing with the subtle technicality of the timing of the posts
Today is yesterday's tomorrow
This whole AVZ saga is fucking with my head and I need to find ways to entertain myself .....
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Winenut
Go AVZ!
Beat me to it!
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Penskefile
Regular
Mate, trust me, you don't want a job in politics. Millions of Briefing Notes, Ministerials, Minutes to the Minister, Situation Rports and every combination of meeting notes and speaking points known to man...will burn you out and make a bitter and twisted person.
Joe Biden is 81 and Trump is 77, are you older?
What is old?
Methuselah died at the age of 969.
I do realise he didn't have a mobile phone, or AVZ shares, but he was the grandfather of Noah, the bloke who built a boat with 2 of each.
That should have been enough to give a person grey hairs.
See, no need to be depressed.
Being positive is buying a solar battery when you are 99.
Spikerama
Regular
Well I don't have a watch but I do have a new phone and the autocorrect on it hasn't got used to me yet.
It still thinks I like watching canal fishing videos.
Never heard about canal fishing, so innocent me I googled it....
First sentence:
Feeding on the abundant food source of nymphs and flies, snail, bullie, trout eggs and pellets that have fallen through the salmon farms, these trout regularly grow upwards of 20lb and can often reach 30lb or heavier.
Right, I better get a flight booked to New Zealand as a first priority.
Thanks for your considered response, and others.
Yes, I get that China monopolising lithium supply is bad news for Aussie producers. And presumably our govt are also aware.
However, if holders swamp them with 20,000 appeals for support, what can the Aussie govt practically do to help AVZ's cause, beyond their quiet diplomacy reportedly employed thus far.
I just can't see what meaningful leverage the govt could apply given we have negligible trade relations with the DRC. What's the actual path the govt could take to exert effective influence on Felix?
Fuck China!China bitched out last minute like usual
Summary of Australia's involvement in recent disputes before the World Trade Organization
Australia's involvement in disputes currently before the World Trade Organization.www.dfat.gov.au
Australia as a complaining party (complainant)
China – Anti-Dumping and Countervailing Measures on Wine From Australia (DS602)
On 22 June 2021, following the Government announcement, Australia requested consultations with the Government of the People's Republic of China concerning measures maintained by China on bottled wine imports from Australia. Australia claimed that China’s anti-dumping and countervailing measures on Australian wine appear to be inconsistent with certain provisions of the Agreement on Implementation of Article VI of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1994, the Agreement on Subsides and Countervailing Measures; and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1994.
Australia held consultations with China on 9 August 2021.
On 16 September 2021, the Government announced that Australia would request that the WTO establish a panel to examine the matter.
The WTO Dispute Settlement Body established a panel on 26 October 2021. Brazil, Canada, Chinese Taipei, the European Union, India, Japan, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, the Russian Federation, Singapore, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, the United States and Vietnam joined the dispute as third parties.
On 29 April 2022, Australia filed its First Written Submission.
On 6 September 2022, Australia delivered its opening statement at the First Substantive Meeting with the Parties.
On 28 November 2022, Australia filed its Second Written Submission.
On 28 February 2023, Australia delivered its opening statement at the Second Substantive Meeting with the Parties.
On 14 April 2023, Australia filed its Executive Summary.
On 22 October 2023, the Prime Minister announced that Australia and China had reached agreement on a pathway towards the resolution of the dispute. China will conduct an expedited review of its duties on wine. Australia agreed to suspend the dispute for five months to allow that to occur.
On 30 October 2023 the WTO Panel suspended its work on the dispute until 31 March 2024.
China – Anti-Dumping and Countervailing Duty Measures on Barley From Australia (DS598)
On 16 December 2020, following the Government announcement, Australia requested consultations with the Government of the People's Republic of China concerning measures maintained by China on barley imports from Australia. Australia claimed that China’s anti-dumping and countervailing duties on Australian barley appear to be inconsistent with certain provisions of the Agreement on Implementation of Article VI of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1994, the Agreement on Subsides and Countervailing Measures; and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1994.
Australia held consultations with China on 28 January 2021.
On 15 March 2021, the Government announced that Australia would request that the WTO establish a panel to examine the matter.
The WTO Dispute Settlement Body established a panel on 28 May 2021. At Australia’s request, on 3 September 2021 the WTO Director-General composed the panel. Brazil, Canada, the European Union, India, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, the Russian Federation, Singapore, Ukraine, the United Kingdom and the United States joined the dispute as third parties.
On 1 November 2021, Australia filed its First Written Submission.
On 8 March 2022, Australia delivered its opening statement at the First Substantive Meeting with the Parties.
On 10 May 2022, Australia filed its Second Written Submission.
On 27 July 2022, Australia delivered its opening statement at the Second Substantive Meeting with the Parties.
On 19 September 2022, Australia filed its Executive Summary.
On 11 April 2023, Minister Wong and Minister Farrell announced that Australia and China had reached an agreement on a potential pathway to resolve the dispute. China agreed to conduct an expedited review into its duties on barley and Australia agreed to a maximum four-month suspension of the WTO dispute to allow this to occur. Following its review, China removed the duties on barley on 5 August 2023.
On 11 August 2023, Australia and China jointly notified the Panel and the Dispute Settlement Body of the WTO that the parties had reached a mutually agreed solution to the matter. On 24 August 2023, the Panel released its report in the dispute reporting that a mutually agreed solution had been reached.
Australia and US have signed a critical mineral pact........designed to thwart China dominance in the mineral space, lithium is probably the most important mineral going forward and is part of the pact.
AVZ is an australian coy, owner of the largest hard rock lithium project in the planet by a country mile, so i would of thought Manono would very much fit the criteria for the mineral pact, in fact, i would of thought it should be priority number one to be safely secured, therefore there should be plenty " in it " for both the Aust & US govt.
If i was Biden, i wouldnt be committing to the Lobito train initiative until Manono is safely secured by way of ML to AVZ and thus in the bosom of the critical mineral pact...
US and EU jointly support new African railway line between Zambia and Angola
The European Union and the United States are teaming up to support the development of a new Greenfield African railway line expansion between Zambia and Angola by launching feasibility studies.…
Just a thought.
Thanks for identifying these potential mechanisms and pathways to exert influence on the DRC. Exactly what I was looking for.Australia and US have signed a critical mineral pact........designed to thwart China dominance in the mineral space, lithium is probably the most important mineral going forward and is part of the pact.
AVZ is an australian coy, owner of the largest hard rock lithium project in the planet by a country mile, so i would of thought Manono would very much fit the criteria for the mineral pact, in fact, i would of thought it should be priority number one to be safely secured, therefore there should be plenty " in it " for both the Aust & US govt.
If i was Biden, i wouldnt be committing to the Lobito train initiative until Manono is safely secured by way of ML to AVZ and thus in the bosom of the critical mineral pact...
US and EU jointly support new African railway line between Zambia and Angola
The European Union and the United States are teaming up to support the development of a new Greenfield African railway line expansion between Zambia and Angola by launching feasibility studies.…www.railtech.com
Just a thought.
I think the answer is easy,
Hasn't the Australian Government allocated $40 million to critical minerals? They can lend us $20 million at zero interest to start with.
The Australian Government could be the "Lender of Last Resort" for critical minerals if they were serious - a function that they provide to Banks in Australia.
Regards,
SilentOne
Fingers crossed Avz management constantly reminded the government of the minerals pact and how they blocked an international investment stake.Australia and US have signed a critical mineral pact........designed to thwart China dominance in the mineral space, lithium is probably the most important mineral going forward and is part of the pact.
AVZ is an australian coy, owner of the largest hard rock lithium project in the planet by a country mile, so i would of thought Manono would very much fit the criteria for the mineral pact, in fact, i would of thought it should be priority number one to be safely secured, therefore there should be plenty " in it " for both the Aust & US govt.
If i was Biden, i wouldnt be committing to the Lobito train initiative until Manono is safely secured by way of ML to AVZ and thus in the bosom of the critical mineral pact...
US and EU jointly support new African railway line between Zambia and Angola
The European Union and the United States are teaming up to support the development of a new Greenfield African railway line expansion between Zambia and Angola by launching feasibility studies.…
Just a thought.
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