Finally some reference to a major shareholder being JP Morgan, top 5.
AVZ Discussion 2022
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A very interesting read on another African lithium deposit. Special note of the comment re offtakes going to the right place. Is the CATH deal a deterrent for the US?
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African lithium project boosts US drive to close EV gap on China
Half of the output from Ghana’s Ewoyaa mine is earmarked for a refinery that Piedmont Lithium plans to construct in Tennessee.
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Dijon101
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Interestin that JP Morgan are assuming legal disputes will be resolved in 2023. Any weight to this ? Or is it purely an assumption for modelling purposes??
Stole my thunder, was just about to highlight that quote myself...
Does the 5th highest shareholder in AVZ have some inside info ?
Mr_Tones83
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Nope, JP Morgan Nominees is what JPM holds in custody on behalf of their clients which are funds, HNWs, trading firms, possibly a bit of retail etc. This is the same for BNP Baribas Noms and HSBC Noms. No conspiracy or inside knowledge there
Thanks for that, makes sense.Nope, JP Morgan Nominees is what JPM holds in custody on behalf of their clients which are funds, HNWs, trading firms, possibly a bit of retail etc. This is the same for BNP Baribas Noms and HSBC Noms. No conspiracy or inside knowledge there
Winenut
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For those that maybe didn't know Atlantic Lithium trades as A11 on the ASXA very interesting read on another African lithium deposit. Special note of the comment re offtakes going to the right place. Is the CATH deal a deterrent for the US?
African lithium project boosts US drive to close EV gap on China
Half of the output from Ghana’s Ewoyaa mine is earmarked for a refinery that Piedmont Lithium plans to construct in Tennessee.
Hope JP Morgan are doing the rounds looking after their clients to vote in favour of the BOD and not for those other slimebags.Nope, JP Morgan Nominees is what JPM holds in custody on behalf of their clients which are funds, HNWs, trading firms, possibly a bit of retail etc. This is the same for BNP Baribas Noms and HSBC Noms. No conspiracy or inside knowledge there
Honest question - why not.
Winenut
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I've been doing as much research as possible in the lead up to the AGM and the voting on the resolutions
I'm not taking this one lightly at all
I think it's absolutely imperative at this point in time to get the vote "right" and critically to get the required "numbers" we need for the best overall AVZ and shareholder outcome
First and foremost I believe the most important thing to do right now is make sure not one MMGA goon gets anywhere near a seat on the Board
Given that I am now fully supporting the nomination of the Hadleys and will absolutely be voting for both of them either online through Automic or physically at the AGM
They are serious shareholders, have plenty of skin in the game, are fully supportive of the board, can be a great asset to the board going forward and most critically can absolutely help knock out those MMGA puppets who will sell AVZ and all shareholders down the river for their own personal gain
It's taken me a good amount of time to come to this decision
I have been lucky to talk with multiple, independent, intelligent and completely unrelated sources about the situation which has really helped me form my considered opinion
I am truly grateful to all those fully invested shareholders who are working hard to get the best outcome for all of us
So the bottom line is........
This is how I will be voting and I absolutely encourage everyone to do the same
I believe this is the best way to guarantee the integrity and strength of the board now and into the future, protect us from being sold out by MMGA to corrupt foreign interests and absolutely ensure the best outcome for AVZ shareholders and the good people of Manono and the greater DRC population for many years to come
Make sure your vote counts
I'm not taking this one lightly at all
I think it's absolutely imperative at this point in time to get the vote "right" and critically to get the required "numbers" we need for the best overall AVZ and shareholder outcome
First and foremost I believe the most important thing to do right now is make sure not one MMGA goon gets anywhere near a seat on the Board
Given that I am now fully supporting the nomination of the Hadleys and will absolutely be voting for both of them either online through Automic or physically at the AGM
They are serious shareholders, have plenty of skin in the game, are fully supportive of the board, can be a great asset to the board going forward and most critically can absolutely help knock out those MMGA puppets who will sell AVZ and all shareholders down the river for their own personal gain
It's taken me a good amount of time to come to this decision
I have been lucky to talk with multiple, independent, intelligent and completely unrelated sources about the situation which has really helped me form my considered opinion
I am truly grateful to all those fully invested shareholders who are working hard to get the best outcome for all of us
So the bottom line is........
This is how I will be voting and I absolutely encourage everyone to do the same
I believe this is the best way to guarantee the integrity and strength of the board now and into the future, protect us from being sold out by MMGA to corrupt foreign interests and absolutely ensure the best outcome for AVZ shareholders and the good people of Manono and the greater DRC population for many years to come
Make sure your vote counts
Best foreign minister we’ve had for years.
Azzler
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Perhaps you could give us some plain speaking clear reasons why voting in non endorsed candidates helps our position.
I've been asking around yet can't find any good reason why it's a good idea.
Just vote what the company recommends. Not that hard.
Me and mine have over 10m shares and thats how we voting.
Not one person has been able to explain how voting the Hadleys in will keep MMGA out? If the 3 stooges have enough votes to vote themselves in then they have enough votes to block.
And I hate the secret squirrel shit. The Hadleys would be of great benefit? How about they make a video and introduce themselves. How about they come on here and introduce themselves. But no, all we hear is I heard from so and so that they good guys and will help us. I dont know these fuckers from a bar of soap! Could be the nicest guys in the world, could also be on the MMGA payroll. Who knows.
I think all non endorsed individuals should have pulled their nominations when it became clear that they are actually causing the company some stress.
All imo
Me and mine have over 10m shares and thats how we voting.
Not one person has been able to explain how voting the Hadleys in will keep MMGA out? If the 3 stooges have enough votes to vote themselves in then they have enough votes to block.
And I hate the secret squirrel shit. The Hadleys would be of great benefit? How about they make a video and introduce themselves. How about they come on here and introduce themselves. But no, all we hear is I heard from so and so that they good guys and will help us. I dont know these fuckers from a bar of soap! Could be the nicest guys in the world, could also be on the MMGA payroll. Who knows.
I think all non endorsed individuals should have pulled their nominations when it became clear that they are actually causing the company some stress.
All imo
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Winenut
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I appreciate the question Azz and totally understand it
Keeping our board united and focused on the best outcome for AVZ shareholders and the good people of the DRC is what it's all about
In plain speaking the Hadleys can definitely contribute in a positive way and importantly assist in keeping the board free of fracturing and self interested parties the likes of MMGA etc
Azzler
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Yeah mate, I've been asking around, giving people every chance to explain why but all I get is mumble, winks and no clarity at all.
Still open to hearing good reason if anyone has it.
But otherwise there is no way anyone should be voting in some non endorsed people they don't know.
Carlos Danger
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The way I see it voting for the Hadley's won't stop MMGA getting on the board. Nominees are considered in order. So if Hadley's and MMGA both somehow get up they will fill the 5 vacant board seats and the rules say the rest of the nominees will be considered defeated.
If the no vacancy rule doesn't apply because we are not being asked to vote on it then there is a max of 9 and voting for the Hadley's will leave the 5 endorsed board nominees to potentially fight over the 2 possible seats remaining if they win their votes due to our max of 9 in the constitution. It will be the 2 highest votes out of the 5 that get the seats if that occurs.
But I'm still not 100% sure if this will apply or if we have max of 7 or 9
For the bod seats there are 2 existing / 5 vacant / 2 possible
Without the Hadley's if max 9 then we can still get 6 current bod / 3 MMGA
or if max 7 then 4 current bod / 3 MMGA
With Hadley's best we can do if max 9 is 4 current bod / 2 Hadley's / 3 MMGA
or if max 7 then 2 current bod / 2 Hadley's / 3 MMGA
Happy to be corrected. And again I don't think it really matters because either MMGA have the numbers for a 3 - 2 win or they're not getting a single seat imo
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Azzler
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Thanks for that mate.
But it needs to be explained how they would do these things.
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