I would fully agree with your argument, if the Drc govt was still in deliberations with Dathcom jv regards to awarding the ML imminently
AVZ have now taken the whole government to the ICSD, which is rather damning.
The great thing about this forum is that we can all have difference of opinion and debate accordingly with respect, I know where you are coming from Retro and I respect your opinion, as you say, we are all stuck in the mud together, we all wish for the best outcome, that's the most important thing here, for the record, I ain't fatigued and I ain't out for retribution per se, just completely pissed off and want what's rightfully ours either via a ML or a decent TO proposal.Are you certain those deliberations are not ongoing?
What if the legal action is part of an agreed process to reach a conclusion?
I've said my bit today, mainly because of the now daily and repetitive shitstream in my AVZ Twitter feed. I know there are a number of fatigued and fed up holders here (as I am as well, having been a holder since July 2017) and while some of us still have some confidence based on our network intel, others have that fatigue rusted on and just want retribution - I know what I post here won't change anybody's position. At the end of the day we are all in this together (except for the trolls and lurking spies) so I wish all the best to all holders for a favourable outcome ... imminently
Found it easy on https://igf.gouv.cd/rapportsCan someone please give me a short/any URL to the IGF report on Manono? Tx Sparrowhawk12
Can someone please give me a short/any URL to the IGF report on Manono? Tx Sparrowhawk12
Think of it another way.
The DRC, Felix etc don't intend to give us anything, or they would have already.
Z and C are also waging a misinformation campaign, including on social media.
There are multiple cases between these parties and AVZ in multiple courts.
We need to wage a campaign to correct misinformation for the same reasons they are spreading it.
1. To ensure our version of events is known for our own reputation in the business community, our industry sector, and for future potential parters (mining, customers and financial)
2. To add to pressure from the people mentioned above re: any future investment plans in the DRC to assist with any negotiations that might be ongoing. Any free ride for Z and C to tell their own lies uncountered cannot be a good thing for us.
3. To let the DRC know that we aren't going to just roll over for an easy settlement in return for dropping any cases, as we believe we are in the right.
No doubt Felix and DRC officials aren't happy about what is posted, and Felix probably doesn't read the volume of posts tagged to him.
However, journalists, investors and others do read social media. Let's not give Z and C a free run, and let's not let corrupt actors remain in the shadows.
Corrupt actors may still get away with their actions if we continue posting. If we don't, they definitely will.
Thanks MB. Found that too but way too long. I been v v busy for last week. But I've just merged parts of your thesis into my short single tweet format. Now to post to all your buddies at DRC Mining Week 2023 ... right now.
I don't necessarily agree that if Felix wanted to give us something he would have. He could have dynamic information in regard to AVZ, some of that being negative misinformation. He might also be trying to let the system work on its own, not a good look for an anti corruption player to come in and just stamp his will on who gets licences. We also don't know where AVZ ranks on his list of issues, while I'd speculate it would be high, that's information we don't know.
He could also just be corrupt. Couldn't tell you.
Felix either can't or won't help. I don't care if he's corrupt or impotent, the result is the same. Misinformation and attacks on AVZ spread all over the internet (and then to mainstream media) while AVZ are becalmed waiting for a license despite following DRC law and expending funds to prove the resource.
We can either sit by while the misinformation spreads and Rome burns, or we can counter the misinformation.
Those saying doing so is counterproductive cannot have it both ways.
If stating facts publicly can have a negative effect from hurting DRC feelings, it can also have a positive effect by correcting misinformation in the public domain.
People are taking notice, or they aren't.
If the DRC and Felix haven't addressed this by now (for whatever reason), then we have an indeterminate timeframe to let this crap continue to be published unchallenged, or correct it.
LMAO. I'll be honest, when you go on your regular melt downs/tantrums and threaten to leave and then other posters try to console you, it always reminds me of this:
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That is Nigel . Just not a very recent photo .