AVZ Discussion 2022

j.l

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Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?

That would explain this bit: "“There is no current or impending threat to the community."
 

Jazz

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That would explain this bit: "“There is no current or impending threat to the community."
yeah that line really jumped out to me. Very curious wording for what I assume is intended to look like a white collar crime investigation.
 
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I swear someone who lives in Sydney (or wherever they film Q&A) should go on the show and if brave enough to be on TV, should ask the question on how the Australian Government is happy to sit by and watch 20,000 Aussies potentially lose their investment.

I am not that person (I would freeze and blubber my way through it) but there are some very eloquent and knowledgeable people here that could do it justice.
 
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obe wan

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I was surprised CarrotDick didn't show up at the AGM, but sent their legal representative.

It was pretty obvious Zijin and cohorts would try another below the belt trick, after they found out AVZ got funding to carry on, just before the AGM.
Too much money and power involved for China to not try another trick.
AFP has to investigate a complaint.

The Chess game continues.
If they can't win the ICC or ICSID case, how about getting the AFP involved.
Don't forget Australia can sell Rock Lobsters into China again.
Agreed; pretty obvious that the grubs are in cahoots with the distractors and they’re running out of angles to shoot from. I found it odd that a couple of DRC X accounts started to post about the Marius story again after all this time and the $20m escrow too within the last week ; Cominiere basically trying jigsaw the $20m escrow and the $15m from Locke together with a few of his posts over the last week or so … and then all of a sudden we have this…..the johnbrown handle on X was already tweeting about $20m within lightening speed of the inital post about the raid on X… pretty obvious to me what’s happening here

$20m goes missing and AVZ finds $15m is what Cominiere is trying to get people musing about … the idiot doesn’t seem to acknowledge that there’s a cast iron paper trail to cover where the Locke funding comes from. The $20m went missing imo to try and prevent any chance of AVZ saying ‘fuck it ; let’s just take back the escrow money / pass back the 15% and fight with that cash’; well that didn’t happen and we sourced from Locke

There was number of X posts over the last week going on about how Marius received 1 or 2 million from the up to $4/$5m … from memory this was a mix of payment and payment through shares and no doubt a success fee trigger.. but again don’t let that remove the drama from a story .. instead they’ve gone from paid corrupt negotiator to a negotiator that got ripped off 🙄

What’s happening here imo is these scum bags are on a final drive to close down funding avenues ; as mentioned here, they had one of there legal guys at the AGM taking it all in no doubt ; they obviously know we’re looking to raise more operational cash ; but drama like this obviously disturbs this

Can only assume it’s Fattail , so the likes of Carrick & his 50m+ shares and being able to spruik to the AFP that they’re a major holder would have put weight behind Fat tails demands for an investigation … as before he had nothing apart from PHs 3-4m free shares and would likely have been asked ‘why does it concern you’

DLA already looked into the Marius thing and in the end gave it the green light and that’s been printed in black and white in a number of articles in the past . The $20m only had access by a DRC lawyer in the DRC in a DRC bank 🙄 . The Locke cash … well it’s from a litigation fund which was negotiated using DLA piper .

These clowns know there’s very slim chance of success for their Chinese masters in arbitration … so they’ll have a crack at any other avenue they can find to try run us to ground . These guys must be on the brink or already in the zone of legal action being able to be taken against them ; but of course we aren’t in the position to do that currently . It certainly would be sweet seeing some karma being served here
 
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RHyNO

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Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?
Mate the federal police don’t raid offices because of an anonymous call. Sorry but I doubt the Chinese could call the feds and get them to raid us! On what grounds? But also if this is the case. Then why is Nigel not on the email explaining exactly this. Just seems to me with this BOD. They are overpaid and disrespectful to the fact that 20000 people have given them substantial amounts of money.
 
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Mate the federal police don’t raid offices because of an anonymous call. Sorry but I doubt the Chinese could call the feds and get them to raid us! On what grounds? But also if this is the case. Then why is Nigel not on the email explaining exactly this. Just seems to me with this BOD. They are overpaid and disrespectful to the fact that 20000 people have given them substantial amounts of money.
Incorrect, Federal police can and do raid offices based on a substantial but unproven claims.

Obviously I don't know the justification provided, but a clever person could provide a story or falsify evidence to police, even stating that they received an 'anonymous tipoff' or anything in-between to trigger this. Our constant failing is a lack of imagination within this game.

If I was in the BOD position, I would have been doing absolutely everything above board for the last 3 years given the scrutiny of shareholders, governments, ASIC, enemies ect.. My point being, in my opinion, it's more likely this has been triggered by malicious actors rather than illegal activity by the BOD.

And to those of you who are saying 'Why haven't management responded yet?' - I am sure this, like many things over the past 2 years has blindsided them. Again underestimating how low our enemies will go. I imagine they are seeking legal advice, making their own enquiries and cooperating with police before providing any official response.
 
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Mute22

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Incorrect, Federal police can and do raid offices based on a substantial but unproven claims.

Obviously I don't know the justification provided, but a clever person could provide a story or falsify evidence to police, even stating that they received an 'anonymous tipoff' or anything in-between to trigger this. Our constant failing is a lack of imagination within this game.

If I was in the BOD position, I would have been doing absolutely everything above board for the last 3 years given the scrutiny of shareholders, governments, ASIC, enemies ect.. My point being, in my opinion, it's more likely this has been triggered by malicious actors rather than illegal activity by the BOD.

And to those of you who are saying 'Why haven't management responded yet?' - I am sure this, like many things over the past 2 years has blindsided them. Again underestimating how low our enemies will go. I imagine they are seeking legal advice, making their own enquiries and cooperating with police before providing any official response.
Not to get too dark, but there isn't much lower they can go from here. I don't think we are too far away from the threats on the BOD lives becoming reality.

Don't forget AVZ is part of a trillion dollar energy future being battled out between China and the West. Governments on both sides have done far worse things with much less at stake.

Without divulging too much about myself, I can let you all know we 100% have a fifth column in this country who could potentially carry out this order. All my opinion only.
 
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What is Nigel doing with his time, if not writing a quick explanation to shareholders about what this relates to and why the FEDERAL POLICE ARE IN OUR OFFICE!!! sorry but this is very disappointing. Who gives 2 shits who posts it. The feds don’t fuck about. What is our position and why? NIGEL??? TAP TAP????
FYI, any announcements/communications that the board want to make to shareholders needs to be reviewed and approved by DLA piper as they have the keys to the car so to speak while we are down the rabbit hole of litigation. Definitely understand your frustrations but speaking to the board one on one, none of them seem to be sitting on their bums and they are all fighting extremely hard for our cause behind the scenes. Ask yourself why they're all sailing the ship still and haven't started jumping overboard one by one.
IMO
 
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BRICK

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Not to get too dark, but there isn't much lower they can go from here. I don't think we are too far away from the threats on the BOD lives becoming reality.

Don't forget AVZ is part of a trillion dollar energy future being battled out between China and the West. Governments on both sides have done far worse things with much less at stake.

Without divulging too much about myself, I can let you all know we 100% have a fifth column in this country who could potentially carry out this order. All my opinion only.
Yeah i agree. Its interesting tmes.. South Korea, France, Romania..

Etc.

Really fucking interesting times ahead.....
 

oxxa23

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Mate the federal police don’t raid offices because of an anonymous call. Sorry but I doubt the Chinese could call the feds and get them to raid us! On what grounds? But also if this is the case. Then why is Nigel not on the email explaining exactly this. Just seems to me with this BOD. They are overpaid and disrespectful to the fact that 20000 people have given them substantial amounts of money.
It happened 6 December, yesterday.... yeah letting shareholders know would be the first thing on my mind... very unrealistic to hear anything the same day....
 
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FUK!!!!

AFR completely forgot to report on the raid on AVZ offices by the AFP.

Might have to do with why Tommy was told by the AFR to fuk off.

Would be interesting to know how 'the west' got this 'breaking news'.

Was it Tommy, or the CarrotDick clique?
 
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j.l

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FUK!!!!

AFR completely forgot to report on the raid on AVZ offices by the AFP.

Might have to do with why Tommy was told by the AFR to fuk off.

Would be interesting to know how 'the west' got this 'breaking news'.

Was it Tommy, or the CarrotDick clique?
"sponsored article" perhaps, lol
 
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*In other News, I see where,

DRC Poised to Capitalize on Germanium Market Amid China’s Export Ban

China’s recent ban on exporting germanium to the United States has positioned the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) as a potential key player in the global market for this critical metal.

Analysts suggest the DRC could leverage this opportunity to expand its influence and meet rising international demand.

With a production plant launched in Lubumbashi in 2023, the DRC is targeting an annual output of 30 tonnes of germanium.

State-owned mining company Gécamines is driving this initiative, aspiring to position the DRC as a viable alternative to China in the germanium market.

The Chinese export ban, announced on December 3, 2024, also includes gallium and is seen as a response to U.S. restrictions on technology sales to Beijing.

This geopolitical move has opened avenues for the DRC to challenge China’s dominance over the supply of germanium.

Germanium, used in semiconductors, fiber optics, and military applications, is a critical resource for technology industries.

As global demand increases, the DRC’s emerging production capabilities could attract significant interest, particularly from nations affected by the Chinese export restrictions.

The DRC’s potential to fill this supply gap highlights the need for robust strategies to manage production, negotiate favorable trade agreements, and solidify its standing in the global market.

China’s decision to restrict exports underscores the growing importance of securing diversified sources for critical minerals.

The DRC, already a major player in the mining sector, is now well-positioned to capitalize on this evolving dynamic and strengthen its role as a key supplier of germanium to the global market.

copperbeltkatangamining


*But will the DRC have the Guts to go against China and what will they do in retaliation :unsure:

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Ever considered who Tommy the twat informed about the AFP raid?

I can guarantee you, it wasn't the AFP, so funny that Tommy shows who his connections are, but we have known that all the time anyhow.
Nothing new there.
*Speculation*

Wouldn't surprise me Fat Tail are trying to relate the missing escrow to the lit funds?! Wasting time imo!!
 
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Frank

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US President Joe Biden Announces $560 Million Funding for Lobito Trans-African Corridor

On Wednesday, December 4, 2024, US President Joe Biden unveiled more than $560 million in funding for the Lobito Trans-African Corridor, during a meeting in Lobito with Angolan President João Lourenço, DRC President Félix Tshisekedi, Zambian President Hakainde Hichilema, and the Vice President of Tanzania.

The project, designed to connect the mining basins of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Zambia to the port of Lobito, is crucial for transporting key natural resources such as copper and cobalt.

President Biden emphasized that the Lobito Corridor represents a transformative opportunity for local communities and plays a vital role in advancing the global energy transition.

The initiative is expected to catalyze economic growth and regional cooperation.

With an additional $200 million in private investment, the total US commitment to this infrastructure project now exceeds $4 billion.

This significant funding is part of the broader effort to strengthen US-Africa relations and drive economic integration on the continent.

Angolan President João Lourenço expressed his satisfaction with the US’s involvement, calling it a pivotal moment in US-Angola relations.

He also highlighted the historical significance of this visit—the first by a sitting US President to Angola—and its potential to enhance regional cooperation.

President Tshisekedi of the DRC underscored the critical role the Lobito Corridor plays in his country’s economy.

He called for close collaboration between the involved nations to fully harness the project’s potential and ensure sustainable resource management.

Tshisekedi noted that the corridor could create more than 30,000 direct and indirect jobs, helping to alleviate poverty and foster intra-African trade.

Zambian President Hichilema described the Lobito Corridor as a unique opportunity for Zambia, stressing that the improved logistics could triple the country’s copper production by 2030.

He urged continued international support to achieve these ambitious goals.

The Tanzanian Vice President also lent support to the project, recognizing its potential to enhance trade across African borders and align with the African Union’s Agenda 2063, which focuses on economic integration and development across the continent.

The US has already mobilized over $6 billion in public and private investment for the Lobito Corridor, positioning the project as a strategic counterbalance to China’s growing influence in Africa.

The initiative is seen as a way to provide alternatives to Chinese investments, which have faced criticism for their restrictive terms.

The Lobito Corridor is not just an infrastructure project; it symbolizes the renewed ambition of the United States to invest in Africa’s growth.

The leaders present agreed that the completion of the corridor could transform the regional economy, creating new opportunities for African nations and strengthening ties across the continent.

copperbeltkatangamining


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TLH

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AVZ continually have to fight the offensive and defensive and simply can’t afford to drop their guard. What a weak blind sided government we have.
The enemy no doubt are sitting back thinking well played regardless of how this plays out.
Come on Nigel time to get some big boys on board as shots are being fired in all directions.
Even happy with the Texans you mentioned if they are loaded so we can put up a real fight.
Can’t wait until everyone of these evil fuckers are exposed.
 
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ptlas

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If the price is right...

I think the end game is that everyone walks away a winner and a loser. with exception to the consortium.

AVZ and shareholders: We get paid out (wouldn't blink for anything less than $2.30) but have had to endure this bs for two years+ and get a fraction of total worth (easily $12+).
DRC: Unfortunately probably walk away the biggest winners as all of this gets swept under the carpet but upset their Chinese overlords. Think they will find other opportunities for their masters...
Chinese: Save face as much as they can but walk away like rabid dogs with tails between their legs. they'd be thinking that at least they get to live another day.
Consortium: Happy days as they walk away with the steal of the century. Middle East enters the critical mineral game and I'd suspect they will want to position themselves as the balancing/price setters of the critical mineral sector. Could work as they'd just play off East Vs West dynamics - plenty of arbitrage opportunities.
So your house is worth $1.2 million and you endure bs for 2 years that stops you from selling.
But at the end you'll take $230k and "walk away a winner".

Two questions:
1. Are you aware that you are talking the price down. The asking price for your $1.2 m house is $230k,?
2. How much do you think that you'll get?
Clue: $230k, MAXIMUM because peeps know how desperate you are.

Have these conversations in private until there's an offer on the table.

Let me know when you're selling your house.
 
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So your house is worth $1.2 million and you endure bs for 2 years that stops you from selling.
But at the end you'll take $230k and "walk away a winner".

Two questions:
1. Are you aware that you are talking the price down. The asking price for your $1.2 m house is $230k,?
2. How much do you think that you'll get?
Clue: $230k, MAXIMUM because peeps know how desperate you are.

Have these conversations in private until there's an offer on the table.

Let me know when you're selling your house.
End of day it's worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay. Yeah, maybe there is a sense of "talking my price down" but also I think it's trying to stay reasonable given the circumstances the house is facing.

I'd cream my pants if I can get 1.2 million for my house that is blacklisted and condemned by the local council/government.

edit: but yes I'll keep it on the downlow and in private.
 
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End of day it's worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay. Yeah, maybe there is a sense of "talking my price down" but also I think it's trying to stay reasonable given the circumstances the house is facing.

I'd cream my pants if I can get 1.2 million for my house that is blacklisted and condemned by the local council/government.

edit: but yes I'll keep it on the downlow and in private.
The house is not condemned by anybody.
It is recognised by all as extremely valuable.
That is why criminals are disputing the ownership.
If you win that argument, there is no reason to sell it cheap.
 
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