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Is that Celestin as well?
That potentially looks like one of the architects of corruption to me

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The good news is that AVZ will pay the arbitration costs within the required time and the ICC and ICSID will begin to action their findings on the cases.

Fasken (Zijin’s lawyers) have lodged voluminous submissions in their attempts to stall proceedings. The international courts hearing these cases are aware of that fact and must now be witnessing CAMI and the Minister of Mines protection of the corrupt parties involved (Cominiere, Zijin, Dathomir) as well as their roles in the violations of ICC and ICSID orders.

Here’s some information on Twitter and the Minister of Mines colluding with Zijin and wearing a Manono Lithium shirt 👇


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BTW, thanks to @Cumquat Cap @Azzler @TheCount @cruiser51 and others for keeping the crapper trolls away. Every time we get positive news the low life’s try and spin negative bullshit into the forum and not one of them has posted any actual information.
These pictures make me physically
Sick.
 
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BRICK

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The good news is that AVZ will pay the arbitration costs within the required time and the ICC and ICSID will begin to action their findings on the cases.

Fasken (Zijin’s lawyers) have lodged voluminous submissions in their attempts to stall proceedings. The international courts hearing these cases are aware of that fact and must now be witnessing CAMI and the Minister of Mines protection of the corrupt parties involved (Cominiere, Zijin, Dathomir) as well as their roles in the violations of ICC and ICSID orders.

Here’s some information on Twitter and the Minister of Mines colluding with Zijin and wearing a Manono Lithium shirt 👇


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BTW, thanks to @Cumquat Cap @Azzler @TheCount @cruiser51 and others for keeping the crapper trolls away. Every time we get positive news the low life’s try and spin negative bullshit into the forum and not one of them has posted any actual information.
Ive found a concerning detail in one of the images.... @Carlos Danger care to explain?
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Zijin's lawyers are obviously ok with it. Wouldn't you advise your client to refrain from posting evidence clearly breaching court orders. Unless you knew the case was unwinnable and a settlement would be negotiated for them to keep the asset.
 
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PhatCatz

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the issue is DRC are balls deep in this now and will get reamed by either us or the Chinese. I think most likely both of AVZ and the Chinese will take turns reaming these corrupt dogs. Chinese will play dumb if this goes the distance and sue them for signing mining licences etc. on basis of false information provided to them.
 
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wombat74

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Zijin's lawyers are obviously ok with it. Wouldn't you advise your client to refrain from posting evidence clearly breaching court orders. Unless you knew the case was unwinnable and a settlement would be negotiated for them to keep the asset.
" I bring to your particular attention that at the request of the company AVZ, the parties have agreed to settle the dispute amicably. However the defence team has recommended the continuation of the arbitration as long as AVZ does not diminish its ambitions." MoM to Prime Minister 18/07/24

MoM's amnesia might have cured itself now we $$flush$$ and taking their corrupt arses to the ICSID .
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the issue is DRC are balls deep in this now and will get reamed by either us or the Chinese. I think most likely both of AVZ and the Chinese will take turns reaming these corrupt dogs. Chinese will play dumb if this goes the distance and sue them for signing mining licences etc. on basis of false information provided to them.
Well, IMO, the Chinese are the Major corrupt dogs in this.

Zijin, as a large corporate with large resources, would/ should have performed their level of due diligence when entering into the initial illegal slice of 13359. They would / should have known about AVZ and its status, and then elected to plan their dirty game from a long way out. Their sophisticated corruption then led the DRC to sign a ridiculously unfavourable contract for the North, which could be considered ‘unconscionable conduct’ at best. It was like a large fat corrupt cat toying with a helpless mouse.

Good luck with the ‘playing dumb’ and the false information defence. It is as transparent as the ‘this new Rolex is just a Christmas gift’ routine.

Don’t let anyone tell you they ‘outplayed’ and was ‘too smart’ etc. This was just disgusting, and I hope they are outed on the world stage for the grubby gangsters that they are.
 
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Dave Evans

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Well, IMO, the Chinese are the Major corrupt dogs in this.

Zijin, as a large corporate with large resources, would/ should have performed their level of due diligence when entering into the initial illegal slice of 13359. They would / should have known about AVZ and its status, and then elected to plan their dirty game from a long way out. Their sophisticated corruption then led the DRC to sign a ridiculously unfavourable contract for the North, which could be considered ‘unconscionable conduct’ at best. It was like a large fat corrupt cat toying with a helpless mouse.

Good luck with the ‘playing dumb’ and the false information defence. It is as transparent as the ‘this new Rolex is just a Christmas gift’ routine.

Don’t let anyone tell you they ‘outplayed’ and was ‘too smart’ etc. This was just disgusting, and I hope they are outed on the world stage for the grubby gangsters that they are.

My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
 
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Pokok

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Joke Friday , lets see who I can upset ... Why is there no Disneyland in China ?? Because nobody is tall enough to go on the good rides . what do you call a chinese business Billionaire ? Cha Ching
 
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wombat74

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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
" Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin"
By this do you mean AVZ gets screwed over OR AVZ gets to sell $$$ and move on ?
 
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" Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin"
By this do you mean AVZ gets screwed over OR AVZ gets to sell $$$ and move on ?
We are once again going in circles regurgitating the same ole crap. Let's see what the BOD does.
 
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Pokok

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We are once again going in circles regurgitating the same ole crap. Let's see what the BOD does.
So before you have all the info ?? now you seem to be in the dark just like the rest of us go flick that to the BOD I trust NOBODY , so keep us on a fucken hook how many here are over 60 and can't wait for the egotistical bullshit to be over short this shit out now
 
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Pokok

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I don't wear black or yellow clothes there goes my filter
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animal house drinking GIF by TV4
 
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ptlas

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What are the three tortures in The Pit and the Pendulum?


"The Pit and the Pendulum" by Edgar Allan Poe depicts the narrator's captors attempting to kill him in three ways: psychological torture in a dark pit, physical torture with a swinging pendulum, and the threat of being devoured by rats.

So DRC is the captive.

Psychological : Tick tock
Pendulum : Approaching Court cases
Rats : Chinese

Indulge me, it's Friday.
 
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PhatCatz

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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
If the price is right...

I think the end game is that everyone walks away a winner and a loser. with exception to the consortium.

AVZ and shareholders: We get paid out (wouldn't blink for anything less than $2.30) but have had to endure this bs for two years+ and get a fraction of total worth (easily $12+).
DRC: Unfortunately probably walk away the biggest winners as all of this gets swept under the carpet but upset their Chinese overlords. Think they will find other opportunities for their masters...
Chinese: Save face as much as they can but walk away like rabid dogs with tails between their legs. they'd be thinking that at least they get to live another day.
Consortium: Happy days as they walk away with the steal of the century. Middle East enters the critical mineral game and I'd suspect they will want to position themselves as the balancing/price setters of the critical mineral sector. Could work as they'd just play off East Vs West dynamics - plenty of arbitrage opportunities.
 
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My take on it this

The DRC (Cominiere) violated our FROR, illegally sold 15% of Dathcom to Zijin and then illegally seized our project (Easily proved in ICC and ICSID).

Even though Zijin was part of this collusion they know it was Cominiere who broke the law. It was actually Zijin who released the tape of Kibeya taking the bribe and then made threats to Cominiere if Cominiere broke their agreement.

Since then Cominiere has used Zijin’s lawyers to fight their case because they are broke.

Sama Lukonde, Adele Kayinda, Antoinette N’samba, Athanase Mwamba, JF Mupande, Guy Loando and Simon Cong were involved in various ways in this case.

Tshisekedi thought he could replace Lukonde, Kayinda, N’samba, Athanase Mwamba and JF Mupande and the new ministers etc would take care of the problem.

Unfortunately for them AVZ’s lawyers and shareholders continued to expose the corruption which now includes the new Minister of Mines, Kibeya and the new head of CAMI.

The DRC have been desperately trying to get new investors to invest in their corrupt mining sector for months now, travelling around the world and trying to promote themselves at every forum and failing woefully.

With the US and EU investing billions in the Lobito Corridor, the spotlight is constantly being shone on the DRC’s corruption.

The DRC’s attempt at turning a blind eye to their own corruption has failed and they know Zijin won’t let them off the hook so now they are trying to swing a deal with western investors that would include Zijin getting paid compensation for the illegal work they have done.

There are rumours of a consortium of influential western investors wanting to take over the whole project and Tshisekedi wanting to get this done so that they don’t have to pay penalties to AVZ or Zijin
 

BRICK

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Cunts

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