AVZ Discussion 2022

Flight996

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What do you think Geo the odds of Cominiere being forced by FT to hand over 10% to the state if they are successful leading the way for ML approval ?
FT has now the US affirming financial support for a battery plant in the DRC .
China has not yet indicated a battery plant in DRC .
Tough decisions by FT to improve the economy or keep a few low moral government officials enjoy their jewellery and fine watches .

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Hi Whales

I always put a lot of weight on US Sec of State, Antony Blinken's mid-2022 comment that the USA would invest in the DRC when corruption ends. Well it seems that DRC corruption has ended already, and I somehow missed it.

In Dec 2022, the US signed a MOU with Zambia and the DRC to support the creation of a battery supply chain for electric vehicles. The dollar value of the financial support for the DRC's battery plant is not publicly available.

The MOU will support the DRC and Zambia’s goal of building a productive supply chain, from the mine to the assembly line, while also committing to respect international standards to prevent, detect, and take legal action to fight corruption throughout this process.

Let's see where that takes us.

Cheers
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Yes it looks like the Americans are actually getting involved, and thank the gods! Having them around is good for us indeed.

"with the launch of the pre-feasibility study for the installation of the first manufacturing plant for precursors of electric batteries in Lubumbashi..."

Wouldn't that be a dream, we dig up the spod and dump it on a 600KM conveyer belt right to Lubumbashi! With the Americans buying it ;)

But seriously that's a massive cost saving on transport, and we could offer them the best price out of anyone in the world. Win for us, win for them.

I think that was the dream for us years ago right?

Never stop dreaming lads, especially when you're in the trenches.
 
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Can't give the identity away online! ;):ROFLMAO:

That would smash the myth and all would know the band was pretty fucking average.....

Will reveal all when we hit $2........ooops...$12 for Zijin!!!
Oh I'd love to know Nuts!
I was in the cringiest shock/goth metal band back in the 90s, we had heaps of fun though. Had a bit of a name around Melbourne but never made it bigger. Great times.
 
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Can't give the identity away online! ;):ROFLMAO:

That would smash the myth and all would know the band was pretty fucking average.....

Will reveal all when we hit $2........ooops...$12 for Zijin!!!
Ha ha! Good points mate. The $12 point is my absolute favourite!
 
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Flexi

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Faces of CORRUPTION and GREED

Faces of CORRUPTION and GREED
 
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Tommy is now reposting his AFR "articles" on his Linkedin profile, if anyone would like a free shot without being blocked


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Tommy is now reposting his AFR "articles" on his Linkedin profile, if anyone would like a free shot without being blocked


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“A source in the country claimed AVZ’s CEI is there seeking a meeting with the President”.

Note the pejorative use of the word ’claimed’ to connote something sinister. A proper journo would have said something like “AFR understands that AVZ’s CEO is in country and is seeking a meeting with the President”. This one para from old mate T-bag shows both his lack of impartiality as well as his piss-poor writing skills.

Remind me, what skills does a journo need again?
 
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Frank

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Production of electric batteries: the DRC wants to strengthen its deal with the USA

At the invitation of the Biden administration, the Minister of Industry, Julien Paluku, and his finance colleague, Nicolas Kazadi, exchanged, on Friday April 14, with the American Under-Secretary of State for the Economy, energy and environment, José W. Fernandez.


Indeed, the two parties assessed the collaboration agreement, signed last December in Washington, between the Congolese and Zambian authorities on the establishment of a productive supply chain of electric vehicle batteries.

On this subject, discussions are underway on the launch of the prefeasibility study for the installation of the first factory of electric battery precursors in Haut-Katanga.

This meeting in Washington DC between the Congolese and American authorities, the second on the same subject, after the more informal one in Cape Town (South Africa), during the Indaba Mining forum, made it possible to relaunch the debate on a vital project for the DRC.

For some analysts, the reaffirmation of the Biden administration's "firm determination" to really support the materialization of this unprecedented project is another step in the right direction. (y)

On the other hand, others believe that the project has already been launched with the pre-feasibility study of the installation of the first manufacturing plant for precursors of electric batteries in the copper capital, and more room must be given to action than in political discourse. :rolleyes:


During the interview between Congolese and American officials, it was a question of evaluating the memorandum of understanding for collaboration signed in Washington between the DRC, which produces 70% of the world's cobalt, and Zambia, the world's sixth largest copper producer and second cobalt in Africa, on electric vehicle battery value chains.

As part of this agreement, the United States of America has made a commitment to support the project.

The objective of the agreement was to set up a productive supply chain, from the mine to the assembly line, while respecting international standards.

In building a value-added and sustainable industry in Africa, the U.S. private sector remains an important partner, both for technical knowledge and financing and business development, every step of the way. (y)

Electric battery producing country


To set up its first electric battery manufacturing plant, the DRC embarked on a major charm operation to find key partners.

On the discussion table, the Congolese authorities have not only bet on the abundant cobalt resources and hydroelectric energy (a potential of more than 100,000 MW).

Instead, the country has positioned itself as a “low-cost, low-emission producer of lithium-ion battery cathode material precursors.”

In addition, the DRC also relied on a study by Bloomberg which estimates that the construction of a 10,000 ton cathode precursor plant would require an envelope of 39 million dollars on national territory, whereas the same construction would cost three times as much in the United States of America. o_O :rolleyes: :eek:


According to the study, the same factory built in China and Poland will cost US$112 million and US$65 million respectively.

Huge stakes

According to the expert, D. Yengebuta, everything starts from a projection.

By 2040, the sale of electric cars will surpass that of gasoline-powered vehicles.

To date, the major power most involved is China, whose companies are expected to produce more than half of the world's lithium production. :(

However, the DRC holds the largest untapped lithium reserves in the world, and China virtually controls the Congolese mining sector.

“Circumstances combine to present the country, the DRC, as a key player, but we are talking about a poor country that plays in the big leagues.

What would be its leeway, especially since it does not master much of this new technology? “says the expert.

The fear, he continues, is that the country could get bogged down in a war of hegemony between the powerful of the world.

“We can already see it with copper and cobalt. Investments in this sector are more profitable for foreign countries, with China in the lead”.

With the only difference that the DRC wants to become a country producing electric batteries, but there too, obstacles persist, in particular the heavy financing which must come from outside, the delay in lithium research, the road system in a disastrous state, energy deficit, etc.

In short, nothing is won yet, concludes the expert.


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Food for thought - JAG :unsure:

Fingers 🤞

Cheers 🙏

Frank :cool:
 
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Spikerama

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I cant even begin to describe my anger and disgust at Zijin‘s outburst at AVZ and Marius. I’d like to see us go hard at Z on the bird.

Fuck, i’ll even join Twitter and help lob some grenades. @Spikerama - do you have the capacity and interest to knock up some new assets targeting Z?

Hi mate. I certainly have the interest and ideas but bandwidth has been a bit tricky of late with clients piling the work on. Plus the wife has to go in for an operation tomorrow so I will be looking after her and all the house duties including her meals during her subsequent weeks of recovery.

On top of that I need to install a new starter motor on my car and replace a CV joint on my wife's car.

And apparently I need to clip my toenails.

But I will try this week to knock a few things up.
 
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Frank

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Cominiere is a legless duck, people are attacking Manono's only traceable and viable partnership and partner in the name of their spontaneous specialization in the DRC mines. Let them tell us which partner has been doing what in which jv at Cominiere since when?

Kulutu, these people are sickening, because of the crumbs given to them by predators, they attack the only serious investors we have in Manono!



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C'mon everyone, get on the Bird and support those who support AVZ

Cheers (y)

Frank :cool:
 
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Hi mate. I certainly have the interest and ideas but bandwidth has been a bit tricky of late with clients piling the work on. Plus the wife has to go in for an operation tomorrow so I will be looking after her and all the house duties including her meals during her subsequent weeks of recovery.

On top of that I need to install a new starter motor on my car and replace a CV joint on my wife's car.

And apparently I need to clip my toenails.

But I will try this week to knock a few things up.
Thanks Spike - I’m happy to PM some ideas through if that helps.
 
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Flexi

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What’s does 40% mean?
I cut and pasted the picture from a Twitter post and the 40% was already there and I didn't know how to remove.
Cant remember who posted it.......may have been JAG.
 
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