AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

“...and placed under the authority of the minister having mines in his attribution…”.

So no statutory independence - they’ll be taking their riding instructions from the very people that need this level of oversight and investigation. You couldn’t even make this up.

Alternatively, it‘s another ticking time bomb. “Right, you fuckers. No more mining leases until we figure out what’s going on”. Two years later…. Or am i being paranoid now?

@Mr Inappropriate and @Spikerama

I’m after your opinions fella’s. I’ve got a fair bit of media saved on how corrupt the DRC is…. and given Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba have all known about the corruption for over a year now and haven’t done anything about it and the DRC Mining Week is coming up in June, I’m thinking of putting all of it out there ahead of the event highlighting how corrupt the DRC is, any thoughts?

Haven’t seen any sign of the government helping us out and apart from Marius posting a few replies, all I’m reading is now the govt knows how big our project is they want to take back more for themselves

Sick of their corruption on top of Zijin’s but at least from what I read they can’t take it off us

 

[Carlos Danger]

Take it however you want this post form the Boss

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[Misfits]

@Mr Inappropriate and @Spikerama

I’m after your opinions fella’s. I’ve got a fair bit of media saved on how corrupt the DRC is…. and given Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba have all known about the corruption for over a year now and haven’t done anything about it and the DRC Mining Week is coming up in June, I’m thinking of putting all of it out there ahead of the event highlighting how corrupt the DRC is, any thoughts?

Haven’t seen any sign of the government helping us out and apart from Marius posting a few replies, all I’m reading is now the govt knows how big our project is they want to take back more for themselves

Sick of their corruption on top of Zigin’s but at least from what I read they can’t take it off us

Lay it all on the line I say MB. Go for it, post everything in a methodical manner, so it’s not lost if posted all at once.

 

[Frank]

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C'mon everyone, get on the Bird and support those who support AVZ

Cheers

Frank

C'mon everyone, get on the Bird and support those who support AVZ

Especially the Sheriff ( JAK ) and JAG for going above and beyond for all SH's

Even Fast & Firy / M & M deserves some

As well as our Audre and Retro imo

 

[obe wan]

@Mr Inappropriate and @Spikerama

I’m after your opinions fella’s. I’ve got a fair bit of media saved on how corrupt the DRC is…. and given Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba have all known about the corruption for over a year now and haven’t done anything about it and the DRC Mining Week is coming up in June, I’m thinking of putting all of it out there ahead of the event highlighting how corrupt the DRC is, any thoughts?

Haven’t seen any sign of the government helping us out and apart from Marius posting a few replies, all I’m reading is now the govt knows how big our project is they want to take back more for themselves

Sick of their corruption on top of Zigin’s but at least from what I read they can’t take it off us

I reckon you should pull hand brake for a little bit ; ye I know it’s near 12 months ; might be worth seeing how MMCS ICC flows and about 10 days after that .. just imo

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

@Mr Inappropriate and @Spikerama

I’m after your opinions fella’s. I’ve got a fair bit of media saved on how corrupt the DRC is…. and given Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba have all known about the corruption for over a year now and haven’t done anything about it and the DRC Mining Week is coming up in June, I’m thinking of putting all of it out there ahead of the event highlighting how corrupt the DRC is, any thoughts?

Haven’t seen any sign of the government helping us out and apart from Marius posting a few replies, all I’m reading is now the govt knows how big our project is they want to take back more for themselves

Sick of their corruption on top of Zigin’s but at least from what I read they can’t take it off us

It’s a good question, MB. A few weeks back we were told to lay off the attacks on DRC public officials, presumably because the messages were cutting close to the bone. On the (untested) assumption the Uncle Nige would like things to continue that way, my thinking is that we should go hard at Z, plus any other “non-state actors” that warrant attention.

In other words, rather than going after government officials, i’d be inclined at this time to go after those entities that create the opportunity for corruption to exist and initiate corrupt dealings (jeez, that sounded like something from Hollow Men but hopefully you get my drift). I’ll share more via PM.

To the direct question about laying it all on the line leading into mining week, i‘m torn, but probably erring on the side of pointing out the circumstances rather than naming officials. I’d reach out to AVZ directly on that one and ask how upset they’d be if you went ahead…

 

[Remark]

Take it however you want this post form the Boss

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The Boss?

I know he has a big following but seriously, how many wrong calls do you get & still retain credibility? Wait a minute, I'll just ask Nigel....

 

[Rediah]

The Boss?

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I know he has a big following but seriously, how many wrong calls do you get & still retain credibility? Wait a minute, I'll just ask Nigel....

I am with you on all those false calls he has made, hence “ believe what you want from his post” disclaimer.

With Jens playing the same tune so I questioned him instead. Let’s see what he has to add. Again, what Jens says wont change anything either, unless it’s backed by ASX’s announcement.

 

[Remark]

I am with you on all those false calls he has made, hence “ believe what you want from his post” disclaimer.

With Jens playing the same tune so I questioned him instead. Let’s see what he has to add. Again, what Jens says wont change anything either, unless it’s backed by ASX’s announcement.

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Hi Red, don't get me wrong, I wasn't having a go at you.

I'm just sick of these people who are apparently "in the know" predicting the outcome & being completely wrong every time.

It'll be interesting to see how Jens responds & what comes out of the ICC.

 

[Samus]

#RDC Several well-designed projects and programs that raised a lot of hope failed because we had underestimated the entrenchment of corruption in public management. Economic growth becomes a mere slogan apart from GOOD GOVERNANCE.

 

[Winenut]

Hi Red, don't get me wrong, I wasn't having a go at you.

I'm just sick of these people who are apparently "in the know" predicting the outcome & being completely wrong every time.

It'll be interesting to see how Jens responds & what comes out of the ICC.

I agree

Bring on the official announcements from AVZ or findings from relevant courts, arbitrations and authorities

That's what we need

 

[MoneyBags1348]

It’s a good question, MB. A few weeks back we were told to lay off the attacks on DRC public officials, presumably because the messages were cutting close to the bone. On the (untested) assumption the Uncle Nige would like things to continue that way, my thinking is that we should go hard at Z, plus any other “non-state actors” that warrant attention.

In other words, rather than going after government officials, i’d be inclined at this time to go after those entities that create the opportunity for corruption to exist and initiate corrupt dealings (jeez, that sounded like something from Hollow Men but hopefully you get my drift). I’ll share more via PM.

To the direct question about laying it all on the line leading into mining week, i‘m torn, but probably erring on the side of pointing out the circumstances rather than naming officials. I’d reach out to AVZ directly on that one and ask how upset they’d be if you went ahead…

@Misfits

The Ides of March has come and gone…. Methodical May is perfect timing

No need to directly blame those politicians mentioned, there is more than enough evidence to show international investors corruption in the DRC is as bad as it was under Kabila

It’s up to Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba, Kazadi, Paluku etc to prove that the DRC isn’t corrupt and that it’s a safe place to invest

This post from Sam (below) shows Jules Alingete is the only one who’s not corrupt…. The only thing I would disagree with Jules’ comments is he could have said ‘colluded with’ rather than ‘underestimated’

 

[Frank]

@Misfits

The Ides of March has come and gone…. Methodical May is perfect timing

No need to directly blame those politicians mentioned, there is more than enough evidence to show international investors corruption in the DRC is as bad as it was under Kabila

It’s up to Tshisekedi, Lukonde, N’samba, Kazadi, Paluku etc to prove that the DRC isn’t corrupt and that it’s a safe place to invest

This post from Sam (below) shows Jules Alingete is the only one who’s not corrupt…. The only thing I would disagree with Jules’ comments is he could have said ‘colluded with’ rather than ‘underestimated’

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[JAG]

 

[JAG]

 

[Flight996]

 

[MoneyBags1348]

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We both know sir les is a der geist alias and not to trusted, thanks for keeping us up to date on his attempts at usurping us JAG

 

[9cardomaha]

Not sure if anyone plays MTG here, but after most days reading twitter this card always comes to mind with the winking and the nudge nudge. Many games getting rekt by this card...

My message to holders is to keep your heads on a swivle - i have in my possession something pretty big but given the convenient timing of the last twat-tale from AFR... i'm going to keep it off the intertubes for now.

This is my own version of the above 'cryptic command'

 

[Rediah]

New announcement

New legal action to affirm interests in the Manono Project

As shared by Count

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Not sure if anyone plays MTG here, but after most days reading twitter this card always comes to mind with the winking and the nudge nudge. Many games getting rekt by this card...

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My message to holders is to keep your heads on a swivle - i have in my possession something pretty big but given the convenient timing of the last twat-tale from AFR... i'm going to keep it off the intertubes for now.

This is my own version of the above 'cryptic command'

@9cardomaha I’ve told the odd story about my mum growing up…. She was a wild eyed Scorpion lady that had all the kids in the street scared.

She used to do the tarot with me and my sister when we were young and if she lost her temper (which seemed to happen a lot with me) she would put the odd curse on whoever it was that caused it.

I was in my teens when I worked out how to put up an invisible mirror at the dinner table to turn the curse back on her…. I learned a lot from mum, don’t practice those techniques now I’m older and learning every day about how karma teaches us to change.

Also one reason I happily let @Winenut take the ‘Mantle’ unopposed

As I’ve seen how karma works I believe we will come out of this ok

Anyway, just a little bit of trivia for you