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Samus

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With the Chinese, corruption is the engine of negotiation, which is of great interest to our friends sitting in a big armchair in Kinshasa.
 
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The bottom line is China will not allow AVZ the Mining License or control of this project . As was stated by Zijin in their news report last year . The ICC will have little effect . The decision still comes back to the Corrupted officials who are under Chinese control . Nigel realises he is helpless by mentioning Embassy assistance. The system is corrupt to the core from the top down including the President.
Well aren't you a little ray of Chinese sunshine. 😂 Go fuck yourself you Chinese sympathiser.

Here's an image of a happy Chinese face you can take to bed with you 😂


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IMO Mate it could be because if they decide to sell out due to this BS at whatever price and let’s hope it’s a “Just Outcome” most of us will do very well, so possibly Nigel just priming us for what’s to come and hey it’s out of our control but BOD have millions of shares they will want a “Just Outcome” as they worded it…

You think Nige & BOD will just let this all fall over with 50million ish shares ???? Even at $1 he’s still FUCKING WINNING

Pretty sure they cannot just take it back from AVZ are they are the ones that made all this happen…

That would be the biggest Steal in history and would not look good for DRC…

Fuck the rest of the conspiracy theories over the next month again I’m going with my gut… NF HAS 50millions reasons to get at least a $2 a share on a poxy TO

Manono is worth BILLIONS
Bang on Cash. Hopefully this has reached a point now where the BoD have used up all of their avenues and now have a for sale sign sitting behind them.
Can't see how even if we ended up with the ML tomorrow, that there would be a smooth path to construction and production. I hope Nigel can finally see that as well.
China, US, EU. I don't care who cuts a deal with DRC Gov. Biggest lithium deposit in the world, surely we can fuck this off for a decent number and end all of our misery.
 
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Frank

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The fact that discussions are occurring with recently appointed key cabinet ministers is positive. There did not seem to be any progress with the existing ministers. Therefore any change here is good. We don't know if the new ministers may have been exposed to the Chinese influence in relation to this project yet. There may be more chance of progress.

The fact that the recently appointed ministers have been tasked with investigating the purported administrative irregularities with DRC's own mining code and IGF findings is also positive. A new perspective would be good. Can't be worse than Adele Kayinda, therefore I see any new appointments as a new chance/possibility.

Support from Australian and other embassies is also positive. Other Embassies who "share a common interest to support investment transparency in Africa's mining industry". It is good that AVZ appear to be getting some support. Possibly from USA who have a lot of influence and power.

I remember reading articles back when Felix was "elected" that USA basically thought the results were falsified. There were suggestions that USA would be interested in providing "support" etc to help DRC run their elections fairly. USA probably want to ensure China do not get all of RDC's resources. I think they could have an impact. USA are coming down hard on China lately, trying to make it really hard for China to manufacture the latest chips etc. There are restrictions on US workers working for Chinese chip manufacturers. USA is also banning sales of key chips to China. So they are putting things in place to restrict China's progress. Hopefully they provide some assistance with regard to battery metals too.

*Fyi, Re:- USA, I see where,


US plans Tanzania trade boost as Kamala Harris tours Africa

The US government announced plans on Thursday to boost exports to Tanzania, where Vice President Kamala Harris was on a visit as part of a diplomatic drive by Washington to strengthen ties with a continent where China and Russia increasingly hold sway.
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Harris began her African tour on Sunday in Ghana before flying late on Wednesday to Tanzania’s commercial capital Dar es Salaam, where she is due to hold talks with President Samia Suluhu Hassan later on Thursday.

Her office announced plans to improve trade and other aspects of bilateral relations, including a memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the Export-Import Bank of the United States (EXIM) and the government of Tanzania.


This will facilitate up to $500 million in US export financing to Tanzania to support exports of goods and services in sectors including infrastructure, transportation, digital technology, climate and energy security and power generation.

Harris’s office also highlighted US support for a plan by LifeZone Metals to open a new processing plant in Tanzania.

The facility will use low-emission technology to process nickel and other minerals mined in the East African country, with a view to start delivering battery grade nickel to the United States from 2026, Harris’s office said.

She is due to stay in Tanzania until Friday, when she will depart for Zambia, the final stop on her tour.

Her visit to Dar es Salaam marks a return to international engagement by Tanzania under President Hassan, after a period of isolationism under her predecessor John Magufuli, who cancelled all his ministers’ foreign trips and discouraged travel.


Hassan has won praise internationally for restoring political rights suspended by Magufuli, who died in office in 2021.

He had banned political rallies by anyone other than elected officials, cracked down on Tanzania’s LGBT community and arrested scores of opposition supporters.

He had also rejected Covid-19 vaccines and urged Tanzanians to put faith in prayer and remedies such as steam inhalation.

Hassan reversed the policies upon coming to power with a Covid-19 vaccination drive and earlier this month, Tanzania passed the milestone of fully vaccinating 50% of its population.

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Australia risks losing pole position in critical minerals race

Australia is at risk of losing its head start in critical minerals processing because it has not yet laid down a national strategy, even as other governments are splashing out incentives to grab market share and bolster security.
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Supplier of nearly half of the world’s lithium, Australia is also the world’s third-largest cobalt exporter and a significant producer of rare earths, copper, graphite, manganese and other minerals key to the global energy transition.

However, those minerals are largely processed in China, including into materials essential in batteries and magnets for products from electric vehicles to missiles.


Western nations want to ease its grip after supply was disrupted during the covid-19 pandemic.


Consultants say Australia should at least move to producing the chemicals and battery active materials needed for cell manufacturing.

“There are lots of discussions and talk on various domiciles wanting to move forward, but ultimately it’s all about actions,” Pilbara Minerals CEO Dale Henderson told Reuters.

The Grattan Institute, a think tank, estimates the critical minerals industry could add more than $400 billion to the economy by 2050, a bigger contribution than the coal industry, Australia’s no.2 export, today.

Industry executives are calling for a national strategy to speed that development by fast-tracking permitting, and offering preferential access to industrial land and subsidies, among other measures.

They want rapid action in light of new competition from the US, Canada and the European Union, which have laid out critical minerals strategies including billions of dollars in incentives.

BHP Group’s CEO Mike Henry told media last month Australia was at risk of other countries moving to “eat our lunch”.


Aid needed

With Canberra’s help, Australia needs to play to its strengths, which include having abundant renewable energy sources and being a reliable supplier to its global partners, consultants say.

The government has provided more than A$250 million ($167 million) in support to Pilbara Minerals, the country’s biggest independent lithium miner, which approved a lithium expansion in Western Australia on Tuesday.

CEO Henderson said he was encouraged by federal and state efforts, but added: “Of course, the government could always do more.”

In the first ministerial round table on critical minerals strategy in three years, state and federal ministers last week agreed development of the sector was a national priority, discussed how to support growth, and committed to hold regular round tables, Resources Minister Madeleine King said.

King said on Wednesday a critical minerals strategy would be released “soon”.

However the government has not said when it would deliver its national battery strategy.

“There is a window of opportunity to become a key player in battery manufacturing here in Australia,” Industry Minister Ed Husic said last week.

“We cannot let it close.”


Funding hurdles

Australia has battled to overcome its reputation as a supplier of raw materials that fails at manufacturing, partly because its distance from major markets means it struggles to build scale to overcome high labour costs.

While major players, including BHP, Tianqi Lithium Corp and Albemarle Corp, are building up operations that will turn ore into battery chemicals, for smaller players the key obstacle is funding.

Making the right product grades consistently is also a challenge. Bankers are wary of lending to a capital-hungry sector developing new technologies, especially to companies with small balance sheets, typical of the sector, executives said.

Cobalt Blue Holdings Ltd, with a market value of A$140 million, won a small grant and fast-track permitting status but still faces a funding shortfall and wants government assistance to secure a refinery site for its A$560 million project, investor relations manager Joel Crane said.

“One of the largest issues we face is project funding,” Crane said.

Arafura Rare Earths, capitalized at A$1.1 billion, is counting on loans from the Australian and German governments to fund more than half its A$1.8 billion Nolans mine and processing plants.

“The elements for an effective critical minerals strategy are in place. The challenge is to stitch them together and deliver. This is a once-in-a-century opportunity,” the Grattan Institute said in a report last month.

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More Food for thought on a Friday night :unsure:

Cheers 🍻

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CashKing

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Bang on Cash. Hopefully this has reached a point now where the BoD have used up all of their avenues and now have a for sale sign sitting behind them.
Can't see how even if we ended up with the ML tomorrow, that there would be a smooth path to construction and production. I hope Nigel can finally see that as well.
China, US, EU. I don't care who cuts a deal with DRC Gov. Biggest lithium deposit in the world, surely we can fuck this off for a decent number and end all of our misery.
They always had a for sale sign up mate, the ML was just triple the price 👍

And it seems they don’t want to pay that so they don’t give that….

I can see what’s happening from the trees now…

It’s out of SH hands….

AIMO
 
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Other countries fighting for us straight from the grande poo bar THE NIGE . Well you'd definitely believe it then . Similar to talking to the highest echelons of government that we have a strong relationship with. That has been sprouted for the last 2/3 years. All bulshit. To pissed off , slutted , angry to get on the piss unfortunately. And that cock sucker geo. What a fucking numnutted wanker. Best bod on the asx . Sums up the whole fucken shitshow actually. Fucken clowns. What a fucken disgrace these charlatans are.
Wow a big Friday night happening out there!
Just home after watching my old home team Melbourne Storm smashing the bunnies and seeing that my team, the new power house of the Aussie rules - the mighty magpies thrashing the tigers! What else do you need in life!!!

Well let me tell you what I f..king need! And it's not to see One Direction the band playing at Suncorp Stadium, I want and I need, like most others, what direction we're at and what direction we're heading!

Imo some on here need to take a chill pill and get over what the BoD's are getting paid. Really,(all imo) this day and age if you have a position in a company with some importance (such as our BoD), $250k per year plus is not alot.
The guys & gal's holding ✋️ and 🚶‍♂️ signs in Sydney and Melbourne are earning more than that. Up here in sunny Brisbane , the bikies are earning four times that!! 🤣.

I think we need to relax on the current announcement a little.
99% of us would of been happy with just an extension of the current extension. But they've thrown in 'the difficulties they're facing'! Well fuck me, if you all never thought that we were facing adversities, well fuck me! Atleast they have said it!

From what I know (& that's not much) things are happening (albeit slowly), and I'd like to say we're closer than ever - but that's not true, because we were more or less guaranteed more than a few times late last year (RS time) and February this year that ML was in the bag, only to be foiled at the last minute by the corrupt driven cu.ts!

We are close, and I believe NF & the board are doing everything correctly in our best interests. Alot here think that the BOD don't give a fuck about us shareholders, but I have to totally disagree.
I'll put it on the table - we have five directors (not including our well dressed chairman), I wouldn't (except for RB) do there jobs for $$ any amount at the moment. They have spent months away from their homes and loved ones and still they have no answer to avz's future! Pardon my French, but fuck me! Yet people on here, go on about the wages they're on!!

Imo, we'll all know where we're at in the coming week or two. Once again imo, if we don't know by then, I reckon we are Fucked!

Also can I say one more thing before I pass out with my knickers around my ankles, in my opinion ignore the winks on twitter & the f..kwits like geo and crew on here because no one has any idea what direction we will end up going down at the moment!!

Goodnight♥️
Nells xxxx
 
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Jesus Nells xxx
A few more “fuck me’s”and you be up there tonight …hate to see if the Storm/Crows had their arses handed too them …think you’ve come close
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CashKing

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Wow a big Friday night happening out there!
Just home after watching my old home team Melbourne Storm smashing the bunnies and seeing that my team, the new power house of the Aussie rules - the mighty magpies thrashing the tigers! What else do you need in life!!!

Well let me tell you what I f..king need! And it's not to see One Direction the band playing at Suncorp Stadium, I want and I need, like most others, what direction we're at and what direction we're heading!

Imo some on here need to take a chill pill and get over what the BoD's are getting paid. Really,(all imo) this day and age if you have a position in a company with some importance (such as our BoD), $250k per year plus is not alot.
The guys & gal's holding ✋️ and 🚶‍♂️ signs in Sydney and Melbourne are earning more than that. Up here in sunny Brisbane , the bikies are earning four times that!! 🤣.

I think we need to relax on the current announcement a little.
99% of us would of been happy with just an extension of the current extension. But they've thrown in 'the difficulties they're facing'! Well fuck me, if you all never thought that we were facing adversities, well fuck me! Atleast they have said it!

From what I know (& that's not much) things are happening (albeit slowly), and I'd like to say we're closer than ever - but that's not true, because we were more or less guaranteed more than a few times late last year (RS time) and February this year that ML was in the bag, only to be foiled at the last minute by the corrupt driven cu.ts!

We are close, and I believe NF & the board are doing everything correctly in our best interests. Alot here think that the BOD don't give a fuck about us shareholders, but I have to totally disagree.
I'll put it on the table - we have five directors (not including our well dressed chairman), I wouldn't (except for RB) do there jobs for $$ any amount at the moment. They have spent months away from their homes and loved ones and still they have no answer to avz's future! Pardon my French, but fuck me! Yet people on here, go on about the wages they're on!!

Imo, we'll all know where we're at in the coming week or two. Once again imo, if we don't know by then, I reckon we are Fucked!

Also can I say one more thing before I pass out with my knickers around my ankles, in my opinion ignore the winks on twitter & the f..kwits like geo and crew on here because no one has any idea what direction we will end up going down at the moment!! Not even the BoD's

Have a great weekend all, and don't be afraid to touch yourself! (It's a great outlet).

Goodnight♥️
Nells xxxx
@John25 that means yourself mate…. Don’t even think about coming over my house cowboy 🤠
 
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@John25 that means yourself mate…. Don’t even think about coming over my house cowboy 🤠
Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????
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Well aren't you a little ray of Chinese sunshine. 😂 Go fuck yourself you Chinese sympathiser.

Here's an image of a happy Chinese face you can take to bed with you 😂


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"Thank you for your well thought out and valuable comments mate, such rarity here on TSE in recent times. 👍"

Looks like you decided not to join the " rarity "............;)


Nice hot crapper spray that one.....(y)
 
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CashKing

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Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????
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Hopefully living he’s best life….

Moreover he’s thinking about Nell’s kickers dropping or HOW CAN HE HAND OVER THE MANTLE TO HER….. 👍 😃 🎉

GLTAH
 
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what ya reckon @geo_au

Any clowns sprouting shit thinking they know the insides n outs for weeks on end should be eligible for bans right now
I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?
 
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I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?
You said ML was close a week ago, stop trying to pretend you know anything.
Literally NO ONE believes anything you say. Attention seeker.
 
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You said ML was close a week ago, stop trying to pretend you know anything.
Literally NO ONE believes anything you say. Attention seeker.
Show me where I said that.
 

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What happened to the CATH extension?
 
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I'm worried about this parts:
"The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-state actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company"

We've known this for the longest time . Any percentage loss to Zinjin or reduction in tenement size , both being a result of unscrupulous means was always going to have a material effect on our company/share price .
As to AVZ losing the project completely .... AVZ would lodge cases with the ICC that quickly the DRC govt wouldn't know what hit them .... especially now it's there in black & white that other countries/embassies are behind us .
For the longest time I've felt that we have been fighting for this by ourselves . Is this project significant enough for other countries to be even interested ? I've always hoped the visits by the officials from the USA , EU etc would be discussing our plight , but there has never been a mention of AVZ ... barely a mention of lithium . So as far as I'm concerned it's great to see it in black and white that we have other countries fighting with us as well .
This can't drag on much longer . FT has an election to win . He wants the DRC to be a world class battery manufacturer of large scale . The DRC have most of the minerals required . Are they really going to source the lithium from overseas if they can't mine the worlds largest high grade lithium deposit they have in their own backyard , because of ICC cases delaying it's development ?
Just a point on your post. An AVZ ICC case against DRC in the event of a negative outcome wouldn't freeze the development of Manono. It would push on under a new licence, just as it did under our stewardship whilst MMCS' ICC case went ahead over the course of multiple years.
 
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What happened to the CATH extension?
CATH extension is based on date ; not asx closing hours , technically the timing on that is midnight so I guess with it not coming out yesterday , we’ll see it Monday.
 
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