AVZ Discussion 2022

[CashKing]

IMV unfortunately for us patient SHldrs, Ferguson's usually upbeat "she'll be right mate" gung-ho manner has led SHldrs over more recent times to believe that the ML was just a matter of time, it's difficult but it's in hand. It appears however to becoming increasingly clear that he hasn't quite had the ear of those that make the decisions that can affect such a positive outcome, even when taking into account all the shit that has been flying around being exposed, he still appears to be failing to gain favour from the very top of gov.

I also wonder is this now NF paving the way for potential failure in getting the ML, "previously confident".

Let's face it, if he NF is unable after all the corruption that has now been exposed relating to the MOM, MOP and others for all to see Including Felix al Presidente and yet we are still on shaky ground, one has little choice but to wonder what really is Felix's agenda...... maybe it's all just "oh shit I didn't realise my government ministers were dodgy, grubby and unfairly shafting you" oh what am I going to do?......

Your fg job! fix it, stop leaving it to every man and his dog to fix, this total shit show is on your watch, which means it's your responsibility to sort!

Rant over (apol) getting pissed like most at this endless loop of crap. I realise Felix doesn't even know what his ministers are up to, his words of cleaning up corruption are simply empty words/BS and mean as little as mine.

IMO Mate it could be because if they decide to sell out due to this BS at whatever price and let’s hope it’s a “Just Outcome” most of us will do very well, so possibly Nigel just priming us for what’s to come and hey it’s out of our control but BOD have millions of shares they will want a “Just Outcome” as they worded it…

You think Nige & BOD will just let this all fall over with 50million ish shares ???? Even at $1 he’s still FUCKING WINNING

Pretty sure they cannot just take it back from AVZ are they are the ones that made all this happen…

That would be the biggest Steal in history and would not look good for DRC…

Fuck the rest of the conspiracy theories over the next month again I’m going with my gut… NF HAS 50millions reasons to get at least a $2 a share on a poxy TO

Manono is worth BILLIONS

 

[CashKing]

I’m drinking Lime Cordiale tonight.

That’s very inappropriate mate…

 

[The Fox]

They are stepping up the negative tone to drive home to FT etc just how bad an impact these shenanigans have on business confidence in DRC.

Ultimately, Manono is huge, but DRC ain't gonna be transformed from this project alone. Letting Zijin and partners steal project is BAD for development of DRC. But equally, for DRC to themselves try and now steal back more of the project would be bad for business confidence in DRC. Maybe they get more? Maybe it stalls the project more? But it sure as hell would be another kick in the nuts to anyone else looking for a positive business relationship with the DRC.

Our offer to DRC - throwing in equity in AVZ - is generous enough that I don't think they're going to try and screw more out of us.

All the communications now is about driving home the point that what's holding the project up now isn't just a little administrative confusion or minor quibiling, but straight up shit-fukery from dodgy actors with zero regard for local laws or people. With every TV interview, every article, that becomes a little clearer. Great to hear AVZ calling it out properly, and great to hear embassy(ies) are getting involved.

Thank you for your well thought out and valuable comments mate, such rarity here on TSE in recent times.

 

[Frank]

I know a large chunk of Aussies don't think much of religious organisations, but you need to understand that for every dickhead exposed in the media for doing something bad, there are another 100 people doing something good for the better of the community because they care.

Here on the Gold Coast there are multiple groups ensuring the homeless can get a free hot meal every night of the week at multiple locations around the place.

They put together teams to help clean up after the floods.

The have renovated community centres out of their own funds for non-religions groups so they can better serve the community.

One church bought a house, renovated it with a bunch of bedrooms and then handed it over to the salvos to run as a safe place for homeless expectant mothers who had no where to go. For free, while covering the running costs.

There are stacks more things like this that are funded by the churches, not government money.

The same goes over in DRC. The churches are there from the Belgium days. They aren't rich but do care about the people in the community and have a good idea what's going on in the area. So if they see something that will greatly benefit the community and drag them out of the absolute poverty which is all around them, they will push for it.

*Fyi Bob, Speaking of "Religion / Churches" did you see where,

Lithium – Manono: AVZ Minerals and Cominière SA for dialogue

Civil society in Manono, in the province of Tanganyika, is concerned about the tension that persists between AVZ Minerals and Cominière SA.

For nearly a year, the violins no longer agreed between these two partner companies in the exploitation of Lithium in Manono.

They accused each other in particular of opacity.

As a result, the Minister of Mines canceled the operating permit for Lithium P 13259 a few months ago.

However, it was already issued to Dathcom, a joint venture between Cominière, a state-owned company, and AVZ Minerals, a company listed on the Australian stock exchange.

This Wednesday, civil society brought around a table the delegates of two partners for a dialogue.

Whether civil society organizations in Manono or churches, everyone is worried.

The conflict between the two partner companies constitutes an obstacle for the development of Manono.

Indeed, in May 2022, the Minister of Mines, Mrs. Antoinette N’samba Kalambay signed the exploitation permit of Dathcom Mining SA for the exploitation of Lithium in Manono.

But since then, the exploitation of this strategic mineral has still not started in Manono.

Manono Civil Society Mediation

In view of this situation, the civil society of Manono decided to play the role of mediator in this conflict.

Father Moïse Kiluba, president of this civic structure, was accompanied in this process by Monsignor Vincent de Paul, Bishop of Manono.

Also, the Methodist Church has delegated Bishop Guy Mande.

After meetings, this Wednesday, the civil society as well as the two religious leaders gathered in Lubumbashi the delegates of the two parties.

The Acting Director General of Cominière Célestin Kibeya, staying in Kinshasa, took part by videoconference.

As for the company AVZ Minerals, three delegates also participated in the meeting by videoconference, including the representative in the DRC Baltazar Tshiseke.

The two bishops recommended Cominière and AVZ Minerals to engage in dialogue.

This will thus make it possible to relaunch the process of rehabilitation of the operating permit.

According to Father Moïse Kiluba of civil society, the delegates of the two companies have made a commitment to organize the general assembly of the company Dathcom SA.

However, this meeting will be preceded by other meetings at the level of each company.

As a result, civil society in Manono welcomes this progress.

Reasons for the dispute

As a reminder, several facts are at the basis of the dispute between Cominière and AVZ Mineral.

Among the reasons, civil society organizations in the DRC speak of the agitation around the acquisition of shares in the Dathcom joint venture.

Zijin, a Chinese company, for example, bought 15% of the shares of Cominière.

For these organizations, this takeover took place “in violation of the laws of the Republic”.

For its part, the Cominière accuses its partner AVZ of opacity.

She cites, for example, the signature between the former Minister of Water Resources and Electricity Eustache Muhanzi and AVZ POWER.

This memorandum of understanding concerns the rehabilitation of the Mpyana Mwanga I and II dam located in the territory of Manono.

For the state company Cominière, this agreement is illegal.

In Manono, the community hopes that the two partners will transcend their dispute.

To this end, they may favor the development of this entity.

Remember that Manono Lithium is a deposit of 6.6 million tons.

Thanks to this reserve, the DRC should rank second among the countries holding this resource, just after Chile (7 million tonnes of reserve).

mediacongo


Food for thought

Frank

 

[Samus]

With the Chinese, corruption is the engine of negotiation, which is of great interest to our friends sitting in a big armchair in Kinshasa.

 

[The Fox]

The bottom line is China will not allow AVZ the Mining License or control of this project . As was stated by Zijin in their news report last year . The ICC will have little effect . The decision still comes back to the Corrupted officials who are under Chinese control . Nigel realises he is helpless by mentioning Embassy assistance. The system is corrupt to the core from the top down including the President.

Well aren't you a little ray of Chinese sunshine. Go fuck yourself you Chinese sympathiser.

Here's an image of a happy Chinese face you can take to bed with you

 

[Scoota30]

IMO Mate it could be because if they decide to sell out due to this BS at whatever price and let’s hope it’s a “Just Outcome” most of us will do very well, so possibly Nigel just priming us for what’s to come and hey it’s out of our control but BOD have millions of shares they will want a “Just Outcome” as they worded it…

You think Nige & BOD will just let this all fall over with 50million ish shares ???? Even at $1 he’s still FUCKING WINNING

Pretty sure they cannot just take it back from AVZ are they are the ones that made all this happen…

That would be the biggest Steal in history and would not look good for DRC…

Fuck the rest of the conspiracy theories over the next month again I’m going with my gut… NF HAS 50millions reasons to get at least a $2 a share on a poxy TO

Manono is worth BILLIONS

Bang on Cash. Hopefully this has reached a point now where the BoD have used up all of their avenues and now have a for sale sign sitting behind them.
Can't see how even if we ended up with the ML tomorrow, that there would be a smooth path to construction and production. I hope Nigel can finally see that as well.
China, US, EU. I don't care who cuts a deal with DRC Gov. Biggest lithium deposit in the world, surely we can fuck this off for a decent number and end all of our misery.

 

[Frank]

The fact that discussions are occurring with recently appointed key cabinet ministers is positive. There did not seem to be any progress with the existing ministers. Therefore any change here is good. We don't know if the new ministers may have been exposed to the Chinese influence in relation to this project yet. There may be more chance of progress.

The fact that the recently appointed ministers have been tasked with investigating the purported administrative irregularities with DRC's own mining code and IGF findings is also positive. A new perspective would be good. Can't be worse than Adele Kayinda, therefore I see any new appointments as a new chance/possibility.

Support from Australian and other embassies is also positive. Other Embassies who "share a common interest to support investment transparency in Africa's mining industry". It is good that AVZ appear to be getting some support. Possibly from USA who have a lot of influence and power.

I remember reading articles back when Felix was "elected" that USA basically thought the results were falsified. There were suggestions that USA would be interested in providing "support" etc to help DRC run their elections fairly. USA probably want to ensure China do not get all of RDC's resources. I think they could have an impact. USA are coming down hard on China lately, trying to make it really hard for China to manufacture the latest chips etc. There are restrictions on US workers working for Chinese chip manufacturers. USA is also banning sales of key chips to China. So they are putting things in place to restrict China's progress. Hopefully they provide some assistance with regard to battery metals too.

*Fyi, Re:- USA, I see where,​

US plans Tanzania trade boost as Kamala Harris tours Africa​

The US government announced plans on Thursday to boost exports to Tanzania, where Vice President Kamala Harris was on a visit as part of a diplomatic drive by Washington to strengthen ties with a continent where China and Russia increasingly hold sway.

Harris began her African tour on Sunday in Ghana before flying late on Wednesday to Tanzania’s commercial capital Dar es Salaam, where she is due to hold talks with President Samia Suluhu Hassan later on Thursday.

Her office announced plans to improve trade and other aspects of bilateral relations, including a memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the Export-Import Bank of the United States (EXIM) and the government of Tanzania.


This will facilitate up to $500 million in US export financing to Tanzania to support exports of goods and services in sectors including infrastructure, transportation, digital technology, climate and energy security and power generation.

Harris’s office also highlighted US support for a plan by LifeZone Metals to open a new processing plant in Tanzania.

The facility will use low-emission technology to process nickel and other minerals mined in the East African country, with a view to start delivering battery grade nickel to the United States from 2026, Harris’s office said.

She is due to stay in Tanzania until Friday, when she will depart for Zambia, the final stop on her tour.

Her visit to Dar es Salaam marks a return to international engagement by Tanzania under President Hassan, after a period of isolationism under her predecessor John Magufuli, who cancelled all his ministers’ foreign trips and discouraged travel.

Hassan has won praise internationally for restoring political rights suspended by Magufuli, who died in office in 2021.

He had banned political rallies by anyone other than elected officials, cracked down on Tanzania’s LGBT community and arrested scores of opposition supporters.

He had also rejected Covid-19 vaccines and urged Tanzanians to put faith in prayer and remedies such as steam inhalation.

Hassan reversed the policies upon coming to power with a Covid-19 vaccination drive and earlier this month, Tanzania passed the milestone of fully vaccinating 50% of its population.

mining.com

Australia risks losing pole position in critical minerals race​

Australia is at risk of losing its head start in critical minerals processing because it has not yet laid down a national strategy, even as other governments are splashing out incentives to grab market share and bolster security.

Supplier of nearly half of the world’s lithium, Australia is also the world’s third-largest cobalt exporter and a significant producer of rare earths, copper, graphite, manganese and other minerals key to the global energy transition.

However, those minerals are largely processed in China, including into materials essential in batteries and magnets for products from electric vehicles to missiles.

Western nations want to ease its grip after supply was disrupted during the covid-19 pandemic.


Consultants say Australia should at least move to producing the chemicals and battery active materials needed for cell manufacturing.

“There are lots of discussions and talk on various domiciles wanting to move forward, but ultimately it’s all about actions,” Pilbara Minerals CEO Dale Henderson told Reuters.

The Grattan Institute, a think tank, estimates the critical minerals industry could add more than $400 billion to the economy by 2050, a bigger contribution than the coal industry, Australia’s no.2 export, today.

Industry executives are calling for a national strategy to speed that development by fast-tracking permitting, and offering preferential access to industrial land and subsidies, among other measures.

They want rapid action in light of new competition from the US, Canada and the European Union, which have laid out critical minerals strategies including billions of dollars in incentives.

BHP Group’s CEO Mike Henry told media last month Australia was at risk of other countries moving to “eat our lunch”.

Aid needed​

With Canberra’s help, Australia needs to play to its strengths, which include having abundant renewable energy sources and being a reliable supplier to its global partners, consultants say.

The government has provided more than A$250 million ($167 million) in support to Pilbara Minerals, the country’s biggest independent lithium miner, which approved a lithium expansion in Western Australia on Tuesday.

CEO Henderson said he was encouraged by federal and state efforts, but added: “Of course, the government could always do more.”

In the first ministerial round table on critical minerals strategy in three years, state and federal ministers last week agreed development of the sector was a national priority, discussed how to support growth, and committed to hold regular round tables, Resources Minister Madeleine King said.

King said on Wednesday a critical minerals strategy would be released “soon”.

However the government has not said when it would deliver its national battery strategy.

“There is a window of opportunity to become a key player in battery manufacturing here in Australia,” Industry Minister Ed Husic said last week.

“We cannot let it close.”

Funding hurdles​

Australia has battled to overcome its reputation as a supplier of raw materials that fails at manufacturing, partly because its distance from major markets means it struggles to build scale to overcome high labour costs.

While major players, including BHP, Tianqi Lithium Corp and Albemarle Corp, are building up operations that will turn ore into battery chemicals, for smaller players the key obstacle is funding.

Making the right product grades consistently is also a challenge. Bankers are wary of lending to a capital-hungry sector developing new technologies, especially to companies with small balance sheets, typical of the sector, executives said.

Cobalt Blue Holdings Ltd, with a market value of A$140 million, won a small grant and fast-track permitting status but still faces a funding shortfall and wants government assistance to secure a refinery site for its A$560 million project, investor relations manager Joel Crane said.

“One of the largest issues we face is project funding,” Crane said.

Arafura Rare Earths, capitalized at A$1.1 billion, is counting on loans from the Australian and German governments to fund more than half its A$1.8 billion Nolans mine and processing plants.

“The elements for an effective critical minerals strategy are in place. The challenge is to stitch them together and deliver. This is a once-in-a-century opportunity,” the Grattan Institute said in a report last month.

mining.com

More Food for thought on a Friday night

Cheers

Frank

 

[CashKing]

Bang on Cash. Hopefully this has reached a point now where the BoD have used up all of their avenues and now have a for sale sign sitting behind them.
Can't see how even if we ended up with the ML tomorrow, that there would be a smooth path to construction and production. I hope Nigel can finally see that as well.
China, US, EU. I don't care who cuts a deal with DRC Gov. Biggest lithium deposit in the world, surely we can fuck this off for a decent number and end all of our misery.

They always had a for sale sign up mate, the ML was just triple the price

And it seems they don’t want to pay that so they don’t give that….

I can see what’s happening from the trees now…

It’s out of SH hands….

AIMO

 

[Nellie17]

Other countries fighting for us straight from the grande poo bar THE NIGE . Well you'd definitely believe it then . Similar to talking to the highest echelons of government that we have a strong relationship with. That has been sprouted for the last 2/3 years. All bulshit. To pissed off , slutted , angry to get on the piss unfortunately. And that cock sucker geo. What a fucking numnutted wanker. Best bod on the asx . Sums up the whole fucken shitshow actually. Fucken clowns. What a fucken disgrace these charlatans are.

Wow a big Friday night happening out there!
Just home after watching my old home team Melbourne Storm smashing the bunnies and seeing that my team, the new power house of the Aussie rules - the mighty magpies thrashing the tigers! What else do you need in life!!!

Well let me tell you what I f..king need! And it's not to see One Direction the band playing at Suncorp Stadium, I want and I need, like most others, what direction we're at and what direction we're heading!

Imo some on here need to take a chill pill and get over what the BoD's are getting paid. Really,(all imo) this day and age if you have a position in a company with some importance (such as our BoD), $250k per year plus is not alot.
The guys & gal's holding ️ and signs in Sydney and Melbourne are earning more than that. Up here in sunny Brisbane , the bikies are earning four times that!! .

I think we need to relax on the current announcement a little.
99% of us would of been happy with just an extension of the current extension. But they've thrown in 'the difficulties they're facing'! Well fuck me, if you all never thought that we were facing adversities, well fuck me! Atleast they have said it!

From what I know (& that's not much) things are happening (albeit slowly), and I'd like to say we're closer than ever - but that's not true, because we were more or less guaranteed more than a few times late last year (RS time) and February this year that ML was in the bag, only to be foiled at the last minute by the corrupt driven cu.ts!

We are close, and I believe NF & the board are doing everything correctly in our best interests. Alot here think that the BOD don't give a fuck about us shareholders, but I have to totally disagree.
I'll put it on the table - we have five directors (not including our well dressed chairman), I wouldn't (except for RB) do there jobs for $$ any amount at the moment. They have spent months away from their homes and loved ones and still they have no answer to avz's future! Pardon my French, but fuck me! Yet people on here, go on about the wages they're on!!

Imo, we'll all know where we're at in the coming week or two. Once again imo, if we don't know by then, I reckon we are Fucked!

Also can I say one more thing before I pass out with my knickers around my ankles, in my opinion ignore the winks on twitter & the f..kwits like geo and crew on here because no one has any idea what direction we will end up going down at the moment!!

Goodnight
Nells xxxx

 

[John25]

Jesus Nells xxx
A few more “fuck me’s”and you be up there tonight …hate to see if the Storm/Crows had their arses handed too them …think you’ve come close

 

[CashKing]

Wow a big Friday night happening out there!
Just home after watching my old home team Melbourne Storm smashing the bunnies and seeing that my team, the new power house of the Aussie rules - the mighty magpies thrashing the tigers! What else do you need in life!!!

Well let me tell you what I f..king need! And it's not to see One Direction the band playing at Suncorp Stadium, I want and I need, like most others, what direction we're at and what direction we're heading!

Imo some on here need to take a chill pill and get over what the BoD's are getting paid. Really,(all imo) this day and age if you have a position in a company with some importance (such as our BoD), $250k per year plus is not alot.
The guys & gal's holding ️ and signs in Sydney and Melbourne are earning more than that. Up here in sunny Brisbane , the bikies are earning four times that!! .

I think we need to relax on the current announcement a little.
99% of us would of been happy with just an extension of the current extension. But they've thrown in 'the difficulties they're facing'! Well fuck me, if you all never thought that we were facing adversities, well fuck me! Atleast they have said it!

From what I know (& that's not much) things are happening (albeit slowly), and I'd like to say we're closer than ever - but that's not true, because we were more or less guaranteed more than a few times late last year (RS time) and February this year that ML was in the bag, only to be foiled at the last minute by the corrupt driven cu.ts!

We are close, and I believe NF & the board are doing everything correctly in our best interests. Alot here think that the BOD don't give a fuck about us shareholders, but I have to totally disagree.
I'll put it on the table - we have five directors (not including our well dressed chairman), I wouldn't (except for RB) do there jobs for $$ any amount at the moment. They have spent months away from their homes and loved ones and still they have no answer to avz's future! Pardon my French, but fuck me! Yet people on here, go on about the wages they're on!!

Imo, we'll all know where we're at in the coming week or two. Once again imo, if we don't know by then, I reckon we are Fucked!

Also can I say one more thing before I pass out with my knickers around my ankles, in my opinion ignore the winks on twitter & the f..kwits like geo and crew on here because no one has any idea what direction we will end up going down at the moment!! Not even the BoD's

Have a great weekend all, and don't be afraid to touch yourself! (It's a great outlet).

Goodnight
Nells xxxx

@John25 that means yourself mate…. Don’t even think about coming over my house cowboy

 

[John25]

@John25 that means yourself mate…. Don’t even think about coming over my house cowboy

Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????

 

[BEISHA]

Well aren't you a little ray of Chinese sunshine. Go fuck yourself you Chinese sympathiser.

Here's an image of a happy Chinese face you can take to bed with you


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"Thank you for your well thought out and valuable comments mate, such rarity here on TSE in recent times. "

Looks like you decided not to join the " rarity "............


Nice hot crapper spray that one.....

 

[CashKing]

Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????
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Hopefully living he’s best life….

Moreover he’s thinking about Nell’s kickers dropping or HOW CAN HE HAND OVER THE MANTLE TO HER…..

GLTAH

 

[Nellie17]

Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????
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Fuck me in French

Well …Ive learnt something tonight “Fuck me” is French …thats me gone for the night …Where’s Nut ????
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Evening John,

Apologies I don't 'speak' French!
Lalalala!

Cheers,
Nells xx

 

[CashKing]

Fuck me in French
Evening John,

Apologies I don't 'speak' French!
Lalalala!

Cheers,
Nells xx

Fuck me in French
Evening John,

Apologies I don't 'speak' French!
Lalalala!

Cheers,
Nells xx

Ummm @John25 Wake up & I’ll leave you to it

 

[geo_au]

what ya reckon @geo_au

Any clowns sprouting shit thinking they know the insides n outs for weeks on end should be eligible for bans right now

I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?

 

[Azzler]

I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?

You said ML was close a week ago, stop trying to pretend you know anything.
Literally NO ONE believes anything you say. Attention seeker.

 

[Hemicuda]

I’m drinking Lime Cordiale tonight.

im on double berocca's