AVZ Discussion 2022

[CashKing]

Fuck me in French
Evening John,

Apologies I don't 'speak' French!
Lalalala!

Cheers,
Nells xx

Fuck me in French
Evening John,

Apologies I don't 'speak' French!
Lalalala!

Cheers,
Nells xx

Ummm @John25 Wake up & I’ll leave you to it

 

[geo_au]

what ya reckon @geo_au

Any clowns sprouting shit thinking they know the insides n outs for weeks on end should be eligible for bans right now

I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?

 

[Azzler]

I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it?

You said ML was close a week ago, stop trying to pretend you know anything.
Literally NO ONE believes anything you say. Attention seeker.

 

[Hemicuda]

I’m drinking Lime Cordiale tonight.

im on double berocca's

 

[geo_au]

You said ML was close a week ago, stop trying to pretend you know anything.
Literally NO ONE believes anything you say. Attention seeker.

Show me where I said that.

 

[Doc]

What happened to the CATH extension?

 

[Roon]

I'm worried about this parts:
"The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-state actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company"

We've known this for the longest time . Any percentage loss to Zinjin or reduction in tenement size , both being a result of unscrupulous means was always going to have a material effect on our company/share price .
As to AVZ losing the project completely .... AVZ would lodge cases with the ICC that quickly the DRC govt wouldn't know what hit them .... especially now it's there in black & white that other countries/embassies are behind us .
For the longest time I've felt that we have been fighting for this by ourselves . Is this project significant enough for other countries to be even interested ? I've always hoped the visits by the officials from the USA , EU etc would be discussing our plight , but there has never been a mention of AVZ ... barely a mention of lithium . So as far as I'm concerned it's great to see it in black and white that we have other countries fighting with us as well .
This can't drag on much longer . FT has an election to win . He wants the DRC to be a world class battery manufacturer of large scale . The DRC have most of the minerals required . Are they really going to source the lithium from overseas if they can't mine the worlds largest high grade lithium deposit they have in their own backyard , because of ICC cases delaying it's development ?

Just a point on your post. An AVZ ICC case against DRC in the event of a negative outcome wouldn't freeze the development of Manono. It would push on under a new licence, just as it did under our stewardship whilst MMCS' ICC case went ahead over the course of multiple years.

 

[obe wan]

What happened to the CATH extension?

CATH extension is based on date ; not asx closing hours , technically the timing on that is midnight so I guess with it not coming out yesterday , we’ll see it Monday.

 

[cruiser51]

What happened to the CATH extension?

We all know by now $240 million for 24% is a bargain.

Cath will have to do some hard thinking if they wish to materialise that sale.

Zijin / Avz ICC case was called for by Zijin , DRC can thank them for that.
The fact AVZ insisted to have this not behind closed doors is painful for Zijin, cominiere and DRC, but not a criminal offence.

How can Avz lose a mining license they never had?
The ML was taken away from a DRC JV.
If the JV loses the ML permanently the situation becomes even messier.

Can the Drc remove Avz from the JV, taken in account the Igf statement?

The Manono locals and churches got a surprise when Avz opened its books, it understandably pissed CKK off big time.
This of course will be reported back to Felix, MoM and MoP.

Will see what happens next.
Dathomir so far has not spent a cent, they sold 240 million Avz shares they obtained in effect for free. They never made the roads for which they were paid an extra 5% Dathcom shares
Something the DRC should have a very good look at.
Zijin put $33.4 million on the table, did they ever paid the full amount, and a blackmail letter.

We will see what happens.

Hoots every time he opens his mouth proves he is an even bigger fool.

 

[Flight996]

Nah, it means nothing, anyone talking in riddles probably hasn't got a clue either (hope I'm proven wrong) DBs got a nice car or 2 thou , undoubtedly he's closer to the source than most but the chief seems to be not much wiser than the rest of us.
Let's face it, the Congo (sry drc) is treating us ALL like their bitch.

People who know their stuff, write and talk in plain language...no ambiguity and no Nostradamus-like bullshit.

Anyone talking and writing in riddles and cryptic language is clueless, and just trying to appear informed.

Oh, and don't get me started on the grammar and readability of AVZ's latest announcement. It was written by a five year old.

Cheers
F

 

[Bin59]

Some advice from Franck who (to date) many of us respect and is in line with what has previously been asked of AVZ supporters.

 

[Roon]

Yes, i know I've shaken my head in dismay multiple times lately when reading the posts and replies by some of our AVZ investors on Twitter. I'm not talking about the good crowd here who post facts and so on, but there is another undercurrent of hostility put forward by some that's causing a lot of Congolose on Twitter to question the image of AVZ. That's not ideal. Totally understand the frustrations, but we don't need to be swearing at and unbeccessarily antagonising members of our host-community - I doubt it brings us any benefit and quite the reverse.

Again - this isn't directed towards those putting forward the non-hostile campaign against corruption online.

 

[Bin59]

I think Revali’s points are valid - we could be in private discussions (finally) with DRC gov (perhaps before/after the Ministerial meeting?)


Revali
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01/04/23

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Post #: 67078201

I was thinking similarly. ASX may have wanted more info for continuing suspension.

The alarming sentence of the announcement is: "The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-state actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company." which we already knew to an extent despite this being the first time the company announced publicly.
The company could be highlighting this point re hostile actions/information breaches to emphasize the need to remain suspended.

It then follows that "In light of the unauthorised access of the Company’s confidential and legally privileged information, the Company is taking extra precautions to ensure its confidential discussions with the DRC Government are not leaked prior to resolving the prevailing uncertainty with regards to the mining and exploration rights for the Manono Project."
It could be seen as a positive that AVZ is in "confidential discussions with the DRC Government", of which they don't want info leaked "prior to resolving the prevailing uncertainty with regards to the mining and exploration rights for the Manono Project".
Possibly the company sees a resolution coming from these confidential discussions with DRC gov, and they don't want details leaked to hostile actors "prior to" a resolution re ML?

But I could be way off too and it could be pretty crappy. Like everyone else I got NFI

GLTAH

 

[John25]

Yes, i know I've shaken my head in dismay multiple times lately when reading the posts and replies by some of our AVZ investors on Twitter. I'm not talking about the good crowd here who post facts and so on, but there is another undercurrent of hostility put forward by some that's causing a lot of Congolose on Twitter to question the image of AVZ. That's not ideal. Totally understand the frustrations, but we don't need to be swearing at and unbeccessarily antagonising members of our host-community - I doubt it brings us any benefit and quite the reverse.

Again - this isn't directed towards those putting forward the non-hostile campaign against corruption online.

Hi Roon
Totally frustrating for most SH’s particularly myself …Last AGM our fearless leader admitted his communication to SH’s was a little on the light side & planned to improve on this ,hence 4+ months on & NOT a single message from him …

We as SH’s are left guessing/speculating on whereabouts of our Leadership team…I understand the fragility of certain information but it does’nt hurt to announce who’s where doing what in this circus .Nigel has spent most his working life digging around the DRC & not knowing the extent of the corruption in this place & not being fully prepared for it shows a kind of ignorance or arrogance …take your pick

Not being on twitter looks like a god send for myself …most of it posted here seems a load of self indulgent crap …but after last night finding myself fond of certain french phrases

 

[Panther22]

I'm home from the pub. What did l miss?

 

[tonster66]

I am seeing the latest ann as positive. This is the first ann that I can remember where they have not referred the DRC officials as competent. In fact they have done the opposite and have stated that they are corrupt through the influence of the non-state actors, this is a huge positive.
This is an ann released on the ASX, it is now recorded in their annals for the entire world to see. That is the DRC can be influenced to break their own laws, not good if want Foreign Direct Investment.

 

[Roon]

Hi Roon
Totally frustrating for most SH’s particularly myself …Last AGM our fearless leader admitted his communication to SH’s was a little on the light side & planned to improve on this ,hence 4+ months on & NOT a single message from him …

We as SH’s are left guessing/speculating on whereabouts of our Leadership team…I understand the fragility of certain information but it does hurt to announce who’s where doing what in this circus .Nigel has spent most his working life digging around the DRC & not knowing the extent of the corruption in this place & not being fully prepared for it shows a kind of ignorance or arrogance …take your pick

Not being on twitter looks like a god send for myself …most of it posted here seems a load of self indulgent crap …but after last night finding myself fond of certain french phrases

Haha I do enjoy a good bout of French now and again. Unfortunately I'm overseas working in a dry area so haven't been able to display any lubricated efforts towards Mantle seizure but all in good time

Couldn't agree more on Management communication to SH's and to the market. It's been pathetic, even if there are good reasons towards the less-is-more info sharing tactic. I just hope that the level of competence displayed in our strategic communications isn't replicated in our comms to the DRC government. I've lost a lot of confidence in the team in the past year or so, but will still back them for now - as what's the alternative?

Just hope the AVZ faithful can keep the narrative at least semi-respectful when engaging with DRC actors, even when presenting accusative facts

 

[Frank]

Tshisekedi to members of the Sama 2 government: "You have the obligation of results"

The President of the Republic chaired, this Friday, March 31, 2023, in Kinshasa, the first meeting of the Council of Ministers of the Sama Lukonde 2 government.

This meeting comes a week after the reshuffle of the government led by Prime Minister Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde.

The new and old ministers found themselves alongside President Tshisekedi.

We saw in particular Jean-Pierre Bemba, Vital Kamerhe and Peter Kazadi, respectively Deputy Prime Ministers in charge of Defense, National Economy and Interior, Security and Customary Affairs.

Speaking, the President of the Republic expressed his expectations to this new team.

"You have the obligation of results", underlined the Head of State, while recalling the many expectations of the Congolese population.

It should be noted that the Sama Lukonde 2 government comprises 58 members, including 16 women, distributed as follows: 5 VPM, 11 Ministers of State, 38 Ministers, 1 Delegate Minister and 12 Deputy Ministers.

mediacongo


Food for thought on the long and winding road to Manono

Cheers

Frank

*ps- Go Pies

 

[RHyNO]

I have never given you details nor will I. My info is not from the company and as I said we are closer to a resolution. Whether you belive that or not is immaterial. Get it

Mate you are amazing “I know all this stuff look at my big house and European car”. Stop bragging stop talking shit. Your bringing the entire community down with your untrustworthy boomer lies

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Wow a big Friday night happening out there!
Just home after watching my old home team Melbourne Storm smashing the bunnies and seeing that my team, the new power house of the Aussie rules - the mighty magpies thrashing the tigers! What else do you need in life!!!

Well let me tell you what I f..king need! And it's not to see One Direction the band playing at Suncorp Stadium, I want and I need, like most others, what direction we're at and what direction we're heading!

Imo some on here need to take a chill pill and get over what the BoD's are getting paid. Really,(all imo) this day and age if you have a position in a company with some importance (such as our BoD), $250k per year plus is not alot.
The guys & gal's holding ️ and signs in Sydney and Melbourne are earning more than that. Up here in sunny Brisbane , the bikies are earning four times that!! .

I think we need to relax on the current announcement a little.
99% of us would of been happy with just an extension of the current extension. But they've thrown in 'the difficulties they're facing'! Well fuck me, if you all never thought that we were facing adversities, well fuck me! Atleast they have said it!

From what I know (& that's not much) things are happening (albeit slowly), and I'd like to say we're closer than ever - but that's not true, because we were more or less guaranteed more than a few times late last year (RS time) and February this year that ML was in the bag, only to be foiled at the last minute by the corrupt driven cu.ts!

We are close, and I believe NF & the board are doing everything correctly in our best interests. Alot here think that the BOD don't give a fuck about us shareholders, but I have to totally disagree.
I'll put it on the table - we have five directors (not including our well dressed chairman), I wouldn't (except for RB) do there jobs for $$ any amount at the moment. They have spent months away from their homes and loved ones and still they have no answer to avz's future! Pardon my French, but fuck me! Yet people on here, go on about the wages they're on!!

Imo, we'll all know where we're at in the coming week or two. Once again imo, if we don't know by then, I reckon we are Fucked!

Also can I say one more thing before I pass out with my knickers around my ankles, in my opinion ignore the winks on twitter & the f..kwits like geo and crew on here because no one has any idea what direction we will end up going down at the moment!!

Goodnight
Nells xxxx

It’s been a testing time Nell’s…. strangely enough culminating with me even ‘liking’ and several posts from shareholders here I’ve previously had pretty unsavoury words with

Now that you’ve told us how much the people holding signs are earning I’m considering applying for the job at the school crossing down the road….

If I get the position it might mean I don’t have as much time to spend on here so as the original Mantle holder I just want to say it was a very good effort, and although not quite enough to lift the Mantle from @Winenut, definitely worthy of an honourable mention…. Another selfie might have actually got it for you

Nice to see you back and full of fire, it’s been a while since the pineapple days…. having a sense of humour helps