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Samus

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At least they're divulging some form of information for a change. Although I don't like the sound of this paragraph much given the propensity to play down any negatives in the past:

'The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-State actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company. In light of the unauthorised access of the Company’s confidential and legally privileged information, the Company is taking extra precautions to ensure its confidential discussions with the DRC Government are not leaked prior to resolving the prevailing uncertainty with regards to the mining and exploration rights for the Manono Project.'
 
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Hemicuda

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Another steaming pile, cheers nige
 
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Hemicuda

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Feel sick, out
 
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Scoota30

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At least they're divulging some form of information for a change. Although I don't like the sound of this paragraph much given the propensity to play down any negatives in the past:

'The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-State actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company. In light of the unauthorised access of the Company’s confidential and legally privileged information, the Company is taking extra precautions to ensure its confidential discussions with the DRC Government are not leaked prior to resolving the prevailing uncertainty with regards to the mining and exploration rights for the Manono Project.'
Agreed, nice to see some information rather than the standard extension ann.
The way it reads, as we suspected from the recent "meeting" with CKK and Franck that this still isn't anywhere near close to being resolved but at least they are giving some more info in an official ann. (y)
 
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Dijon101

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"Support from the Australian Embasy"
Confirmation we have support from the Australian government as well as other governments (USA?).


Still all slightly amusing, but mostly painful.....
 
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wombat74

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ASX obviously drilling for more info rather than the cut and paste we've been getting for the past 10 months .
 
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CashKing

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"Support from the Australian Embasy"
Confirmation we have support from the Australian government as well as other governments (USA?).


Still all slightly amusing, but mostly painful.....
Still better than a Cheese Grater wank mate.... :eek:

GLTAH
 
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Bray

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what ya reckon @geo_au

Any clowns sprouting shit thinking they know the insides n outs for weeks on end should be eligible for bans right now
 
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Rediah

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I think it was the usual cut and paste change dates announcement in the morning which ASX may have rejected, resulting late announcement as Perth office had to wait for Nige to wake up to give extra info ?
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ASX obviously drilling for more info rather than the cut and paste we've been getting for the past 10 months .
 
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Samus

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"It was not in the interest of our country, that's why we came back to it"
NEWSECONOMY

For Nicolas Kazadi, the Congolese government wants to reconsider the Manono lithium contract​

March 31, 2023
Kiki Kienge

By Kiki Kienge
This is now one of the issues that will make the headlines for a while in the DR Congo, Manono's lithium.
The DRC Congo after two negative attempts for the exploitation of lithium from Manono in the province of Tanganiyka, first with a Mauritian company, MMCS and later with the Chinese company, Simon Cong, DATHOMIR . These two companies having received at least 70% of the shares of the Congolese State in the joint venture to carry out the feasibility study for the exploitation of lithium, were unable to do so despite the 70% received from raise sufficient funds for the realization of this project. The Australians of AVZ Minerals, buying 60% of the shares of DATHOMIR notably invited themselves to the dance, thus becoming the majority shareholder of DATHCOM, the joint venture between the Congolese State through COMINIERE and DATHOMIR of Simon Cong.
COMINIERE having sold off its shares, from 30% today with only 5%, puts the Congolese State in difficulty, which no longer has control over its lithium.
Here's how the current share distribution in DATHCOM would look like:
  • AVZ 60% + (15% in dispute with DATHOMIR).
  • COMINIERE had 25%, 15% sold to ZIJIN and 5% transferred to MMCS.
COMINIERE would thus only own 5% plus the 5% that DATHOMIR would have to retrocede to COMINIERE for not having built the Lubumbashi Manono road.
But then after having granted the exploitation permit to DATHCOM, the Minister of Mines of the DR Congo, Antoinette Nsamba Kalambayi following the accusations of COMINIERE in the management of DATHCOM against AVZ Minerals, the latter had withdrawn the exploitation permit, thus blocking the construction of the factory for the exploitation of lithium in Manono.
Interviewed by a journalist from the Financial Times, the Minister of Finance of the DR Congo, Nicolas Kazadi spoke of a desire of the Congolese government to want to review the contract between COMMINIERE and its partners, AVZ Minerals and DATHOMIR:
“FTimes; Let's move on to another mineral that Congo has and is probably also in my phone, lithium. Congo has a potential large lithium project at Mano. It has also been in the news for various reasons. There was a dispute with one of the owners, AVZ Minerals. If I understand correctly, their license has been revoked. Can you tell us what the Congo is planning for this deposit? »
“N Kazadi; Yes, it was done a bit in a not very, very transparent way, it was not in the interest of our country, which is why we came back to it. But I would not like to say more about this, because the procedure is still ongoing. »


Should the Congolese government be content to recover its 25% sold off by its company COMINIERE, or seek to nibble a few more percentages of AVZ Minerals and the 15% still in dispute with DATHOMIR?

 
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9cardomaha

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Still better than a Cheese Grater wank mate.... :eek:

GLTAH
Todays ann is akin to wrapping my willy in cracker barrel fine vintage cheddar before hitting the grater - is it opitmal? NO. But it is better.
 
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Samus

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What I don't understand is, if the government want to kick us out or cancel the contract, why did they put the license back together? And why the change in activ transformation PR in PE again a few days later?
That should have happened straight away after the decrees were revoked but whoever runs the mining cadastre portal is fucking hopeless as we've seen time and again. They cancelled the decrees issuing the exploitation permit hence it is logical that this should revert to the previous exploration status.
Not going to loose any sleep over that one, it seems fairly clear cut.
 
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Samus

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1/2 Covetousness on the #lithium of #Manono , private people want shares in the projects, ready to use all means to achieve their ends, even to the detriment of the interests of #RDC ? : “non-state actors who intend to illegally acquire, for
them and/or other third parties, interests in the Manono lithium and tin project. The company (@AvzMinerals) fears that the continued activities of its hostile non-state actors will influence the decisions of major players in the mining industry in Africa”
 
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JNRB

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They are stepping up the negative tone to drive home to FT etc just how bad an impact these shenanigans have on business confidence in DRC.

Ultimately, Manono is huge, but DRC ain't gonna be transformed from this project alone. Letting Zijin and partners steal project is BAD for development of DRC. But equally, for DRC to themselves try and now steal back more of the project would be bad for business confidence in DRC. Maybe they get more? Maybe it stalls the project more? But it sure as hell would be another kick in the nuts to anyone else looking for a positive business relationship with the DRC.

Our offer to DRC - throwing in equity in AVZ - is generous enough that I don't think they're going to try and screw more out of us.

All the communications now is about driving home the point that what's holding the project up now isn't just a little administrative confusion or minor quibiling, but straight up shit-fukery from dodgy actors with zero regard for local laws or people. With every TV interview, every article, that becomes a little clearer. Great to hear AVZ calling it out properly, and great to hear embassy(ies) are getting involved.
 
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Everyone just settle …according to geo we have the best BoD on the ASX & 2 weeks ago apparently something is happening (no timeline though) add to that well paid …so just relax & have a good weekend …plus a few of these may help…washed down with bundy …could ramp up this weekend with a few heated post
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Everyone just settle …according to geo we have the best BoD on the ASX & 2 weeks ago apparently something is happening (no timeline though) add to that well paid …so just relax & have a good weekend …plus a few of these may help…washed down with bundy …could ramp up this weekend with a few heated post
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Yep see you fuckas after a few shots myself 👍

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Washed down with some Exports and Draughts, could be a interesting night 😂

GLTAH
 
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John25

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Yep see you fuckas after a few shots myself 👍

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Washed down with some Exports and Draughts, could be a interesting night 😂

GLTAH
Plus Cash …its only early in the West …could be You/Me texting each other ❤️ during the night 😆
 
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Samus

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Yeah I understand that problem with cami.

I'm worried about this parts:

"The Company is concerned that the continued activity of the hostile non-state actors may influence the decisions of the key authorities in DRC in a manner that is contrary to applicable law and materially adverse to the interests of the Company"

"...DRC Government are not leaked prior to resolving the prevailing uncertainty with regards to the mining and exploration rights for the Manono Project."

When i read this i get the thought that our company is not sure if they will lose the project.

materially adverse.. a other german translation is significantly damages. Jesus I think there is only one way of a significantly damage, losing that shit -.-

Or what is your interpretation?
I've posted earlier that this paragraph is a bit concerning but @JNRB makes some good points above. Better that AVZ finally calls this out publicly I'd have to agree.
 
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Onthefm

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Who is this piece of snot hoots on crapper, absolute dog vomit of a person.

Hope he’s reading this you Scum, just can’t help yourself.
He is a disgusting invertebrate absolute parasite.
 
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