Hi Carlos, thanks for your reply. That's what I am thinking. It's a game and deal will be made. But you mentioned few times in your previous posts that you think that DRC will ignore final ICSID decision. So which option is more logical to you ? That DRC and Zijin will use ROCHE DURE or CDL as bargaining chip to make a deal or DRC will completely ignore ICSID decision and not make a deal with AVZ, but then we are again coming to a question, why they didn't take everything by now ?
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Samus
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They don't take everything because they know they are in the wrong and acting against the law and the mining code.
Chinese are using delay tactics to steal the Hydro power, build infrastructure and develop CDL.
CDL probably has enough lithium to mine it for 50 years, not to mention control lithium pricing across the globe.
So they will delay AVZ and appeal the damages awards holding everything up for years as they take it.
If they have to pay eventually it won't even matter to them because they already got what they wanted, all from looting and pillaging. So paying a few billion will mean nothing especially since the DRC government will have to foot that bill anyway and all the corrupt fucking assholes who caused this will be living lives of luxury as far away from DRC as possible.
oxxa23
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Hi carlos,
I may be wrong, but, I thought some time ago you said you had like 5k or 10k invested in avz?
If so, bloody hard to cop hearing don't have boistrous hopium.... its much easier to say when you've only invested much smaller amount than plenty on here.
Again, I could be wrong and it wasn't you that said that. Apologies for confusion if so.... please clear the air on that and I'll stop grinding my teeth every time you write it...
Hard topic to question while trying not to be perceived as a smart arse or douche. Completely not my intention....
It really doesnt matter knowing how much anyone has invested with AVZ, we are all on this journey together no matter what.....everyone is paying a price, some more than others.
oxxa23
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I understand that, and to be honest don't care what they've invested, was just being truthful.. it grinds my gears a bit hearing it constantly.... there's a bit of "if you were in those people's shoes" feeling to it for me....
As I said, I may have it wrong might not have even been carlos that stated it...
Mate, this whole sordid affair reading and understanding the lengths organizations will go to steal from their common man / woman grinds my gears........period.
Its exhausting.
Hang in brother, hoping all of us can catch a break and be rid of the misery.
Did i mention that Trump was corrupt ?
Nope
But since you asked........
The Cases Against Trump: A Guide
Thirty-four felony convictions. Charges of fraud, election subversion, and obstruction. One place to keep track of the president-elect’s legal troubles.
Cumquat Cap
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Trump most likely going to win, is an asshole and will have a very hardline approach with Africa - I wouldn’t vote for him but he will hold these thieves pricks to account way quicker than Biden’s pussy ass
Carlos Danger
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Nigel said management would talk about it. Not agree to whatever is offered. If a deal isn't struck the DRC government will play the long game and will ultimately ignore anything that doesn't result in China having direct control over at least the north imo
Carlos Danger
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I have 15k invested but got in early so it was worth over a quarter of a million at last traded price. Around 400k at ath and worth millions at fair value. Sorry if it offends you that I think we need to be realistic about our situation. My first post was months after suspension as I'm not one to comment on trading stocks and the overall tone here and elsewhere from shareholders initially was it'll be sorted in a few weeks and not to worry. Which while may have been soothing to the ears didn't turn out that well imo
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Penskefile
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It was obviously implied.Did i mention that Trump was corrupt ?
Nope
But since you asked........
The Cases Against Trump: A Guide
Thirty-four felony convictions. Charges of fraud, election subversion, and obstruction. One place to keep track of the president-elect’s legal troubles.www.theatlantic.com
anyway an article that details the sham cases against Trump is not evidence.
Good luck with getting the right treatment for your late stage Trump Derangement Syndrome
oxxa23
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Hope is a dangerous thing for sure... but, there's clearly some punters that need hope also... you constantly blow out their candle...
I am lucky, it effects me, but, I have a really good business and it doesn't hurt me other than some time... but, there is some here all in... and in a fragile way that a bit of hope is actually a good thing for them...
I understand the courts will take time, but, that's if the usa and eu don't apply overbearing pressure on the drc... I personally think you're not giving that as big a chance as I feel it is.... in fact everyone on here having a bad day yesterday wasn't giving it much chance...
There’s a great documentary you should watch - ‘The brainwashing of my Dad’.
Carlos Danger
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I don't think I constantly blow out their candle but you're entitled to your opinion
I do believe in the legal process and have spent a lot of time explaining the mining code and terms of our contracts so that people have a better understanding of the basis for which the cases are proceeding. Often times before the company eg the Dathcom JVA violations and the Dathomir SPA's being completed correctly. But our adverseries have so far played every trick in the book and I expect that continue.
Apart from the mental health toll that it causes from perpetual disappointment especially if someone is relying on funds tied up there is a danger in constant failed hopes. If people are continually let down by unfulfilled promises eg champagne at xmas or specific dates given at the roadshow for the licence being granted they may at some point turn on management and seek a resolution elsewhere even if that means accepting less than fair value for our asset imo
oxxa23
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Fair enough carlos... just highlighting the flipside also... I do appreciate your efforts and those of anyone else fighting the cause and educating others... I'm Banking on usa, eu and g7 trumping our need for the courts.
EarleofBarrow
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Can we all please agree to piss off all this political US elections talk and take it else where on the forum.We all have our opinions!
IT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS
IT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS
“So near”We have been waiting more than two years for a resolution, now we are so near to a final outcome
it's pointless bickering over something we have no control over.
If you're relying on hope to get you by then you're going to have an emotional rollercoaster given all the bullshit over the past two years and that IMO is definitely not healthy.
I've written this one off and taken on the emotional downside early and if we get anything out of it then it's now a bonus. For me that's much healthier than having a rollercoaster of emotions.
My opinion only. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome for everyone.
I've written this one off and taken on the emotional downside early and if we get anything out of it then it's now a bonus. For me that's much healthier than having a rollercoaster of emotions.
My opinion only. Fingers crossed for a positive outcome for everyone.
Penskefile
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There’s plenty you should watch as well, starting with ‘The Fall of Minneapolis”
Here’s the link:
The Fall of Minneapolis | A Crowdfunded Documentary
Award-winning investigative journalist Liz Collin exposes the holes in the prevailing narrative surrounding George Floyd’s death, the 2020 riots, the trial of Derek Chauvin, and the fallout the city of Minneapolis has suffered ever since.
www.thefallofminneapolis.com
Might be a good break from watching The View and Joe Scarborough on MSNBC for you
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