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Here is a true story about why I dont like Chinese food.
A number of years ago I was working in China and I had pushed the wrong in-house lift button and it opened up into a kitchen - here was one of the chefs sitting on a food preparation bench picking his toenails with a knife - it has scarred me for life.
The last time I was in Shanghai my friends wanted to take me to dinner - we went and had Japanese.
SilentOne
A number of years ago I was working in China and I had pushed the wrong in-house lift button and it opened up into a kitchen - here was one of the chefs sitting on a food preparation bench picking his toenails with a knife - it has scarred me for life.
The last time I was in Shanghai my friends wanted to take me to dinner - we went and had Japanese.
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And the chinese chef in the kitchen was picking his toenails with a knife, right before he sliced your sashimi
Tinrattler
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Just watched four courners china sucks ,i am shit faced on home brew bourban and GG#4 ,not sure if i should post but reading all your posts gives me some hopium . Thank you all for keeping me Entertained and in touch with all that is happening on twitter and the rest of that shit . Fuck ZIGIN
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Was it a male or female Japanese?
Had a similar experience while working in Korea, pushed the wrong button in the elevator in the hotel and finished up in a brothel.
Lifts are funny things, I went back up a floor after I found out the prices they charged for drinks. My per diem wasn't high enough.
But I totally enjoyed working in Korea, it is just a matter of what floor you are on and your karaoke skills.
If you are with the fairies it could cost you an arm and a leg.
If everyone in this world was prepared to pay a little more and support local supply chains and avoid buying chinese products , watch China go from a super power to Bhutan.
Not realistic i know, but it was a farken great dream.
Dave Evans
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I got take away fried chicken from the local Chinese restaurant a week ago. When I got home and tried it, it tasted like rubber
I took it straight back and asked to see the chef, went out the back to their kitchen and said to the chef, I just bought takeaway chicken here and its rubbery, he said thankyou!
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Mr_Tones83
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If it's not signed by the Minister of Mines or the PM it doesn't mean much IMO
It's got Chinese gaslighting all over it as does everything with this entire shitshow.
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Cumquat Cap
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Probably trying to stymie avz ability to raise funds/lit funding.
Easily contradicted with the recent letter posted, doesn’t seem real. DRC is a fucking disgrace either way
Easily contradicted with the recent letter posted, doesn’t seem real. DRC is a fucking disgrace either way
Mr_Tones83
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July 18 letter from MoM to PM:
"Following up on this, I bring to your particular attention that at the request of the company AVZ, the parties have agreed to settle the dispute amicably. Thus, the draft memorandum of understanding submitted by AVZ is under examination at the level of the group of experts from the Ministries concerned as well as the Lawyers required by the Republic to ensure the defence of the country's interests."
30 July letter from AVZ to PM:
"However, we would like to make a number of important clarifications to the statements made by the Minister of Mines and remind you that initial discussions were instigated at the request of the government and this is how Dathcom Mining SA has submitted a draft memorandum of understanding ("MoU") which provides a framework to facilitate talks in calm conditions."
How can there be no discussions after both sides said there was!?
"Following up on this, I bring to your particular attention that at the request of the company AVZ, the parties have agreed to settle the dispute amicably. Thus, the draft memorandum of understanding submitted by AVZ is under examination at the level of the group of experts from the Ministries concerned as well as the Lawyers required by the Republic to ensure the defence of the country's interests."
30 July letter from AVZ to PM:
"However, we would like to make a number of important clarifications to the statements made by the Minister of Mines and remind you that initial discussions were instigated at the request of the government and this is how Dathcom Mining SA has submitted a draft memorandum of understanding ("MoU") which provides a framework to facilitate talks in calm conditions."
How can there be no discussions after both sides said there was!?
Wait, so are they bragging about facr rhar they're making no effort to resolve this through dialogue with AVZ??
I don't think they really thought this one through....
Gonna be great to add to the list for arbitration though.
Cumquat Cap
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Seriously dumb
Bin59
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Disputed Manono lithium mining project in DRC sparks concern
LUBUMBASHI, Democratic Republic of Congo — In Manono, a town in the province of Tanganyika, in the northern part of the Democratic Republic of Congo’s (DRC) Katanga region, a mining project has still not broken ground, more than two years after the confirmation of a sizeable lithium deposit...
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Disputed Manono lithium mining project in DRC sparks concern
DIDIER MAKAL
8 AUG 2024AFRICA
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- A lithium mining project in the DRC that was expected to begin in 2023 is still pending.
- The Congolese government and mineral exploration company AVZ Minerals are fighting over the rights to an ore concession awarded to the Chinese company Zijin Mining.
- Delays are lengthening for residents waiting for jobs, and the local population has not yet been informed of how lithium mining will impact their environment.
Thus far, agriculture has remained the primary economic activity in Manono and the surrounding region. Young people, however, are turning away from farming in a quest to earn quick money. They climb down into hand-dug, underground galleries looking for cassiterite, another popular mineral in the electronics industry, in demand among Indian and Chinese buyers, who have established trading posts on site.
“This conflict is affecting us. We are waiting for the [lithium] mining project to develop Manono,” said Dieumerci Kabila, a local radio journalist and civil society activist living in the town, regarding the impact of the conflict on the community.
A public company named Zaïretain operated a tin mine in Manono until 1982, after which activity dwindled gradually to a complete halt in 1998 with the Second Congo War, when armed rebel forces from Rwanda and Uganda rose up against Laurent-Désiré Kabila (1939-2001). Several private companies have also bought rights to mining sites on the deposits owned by the public company, whose name has since changed to Cominière.
AVZ estimates the Manono Lithium Project’s total mineral resources at 400 million tons, and the project has brought hope for the economic revival of Manono, which declined with Zaïretain’s closure.
AI also revealed that Zijin had recently committed $70 million to humanitarian aid projects for victims of violence in the eastern DRC through the joint venture Manono Lithium. However, only $40 million was received by the recipient, an NGO named Le Bouclier, the rest having vanished, according to AI, from an unidentified transitional account. According to the same source, the president of the NGO, Jean-David E’ngazi, has been on the board of directors of Cominière, Manono Lithium’s other joint owner, since 2023.
Environmental impacts yet to be assessed
According to the journalist, Kabila, and Cyprien Kitanga, the administrator of the territory of Manono, an environmental impact assessment of the mine has yet to be conducted; nevertheless, all that is pending for Dathcom is its lithium mining permit. The same goes for Manono Lithium, whose research is advertised as very far along.But according to Kabila, who has been following the lithium project’s evolution, a cahier de charges, an agreement between the company and the affected communities, hasn’t been developed either. “People [civil society activists] need training” to better understand the future environmental issues related to mining, Kabila said.
Kitanga isn’t aware of any environmental impact assessment, either, although the studies are a prerequisite for opening any mining project. “The company is not acting in good faith,” Kitanga said. He also noted how the wait is drawing out for local residents, and there aren’t even steps being taken to “win the people’s confidence” and reassure them about the mining project.
However, Célestin Kibeya, Cominière’s actingmanaging director, guaranteed on a call with Mongabay the study has been done and should be published on the company’s website in May. (As of Aug. 7, it had not yet appeared.) As for when operations will start, he said, “The feasibility study results must first be approved” by the Ministry of Mines.
A version of this article was originally published on our French website on 8 May 2024 as Inquiétudes sur les retombées du lithium de Manono en RDC
Well I am sure that the ICSID and ICC will validate the content of the above letter and take it into consideration when deliberating outcomes/rulings.
I am sitting on the edge of my lounge waiting with bated breath for the rulings.
SilentOne
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They’re pushing hard for us to run out of cash, hope our highly paid cfo/new ceo Jan has got his shit sorted
Scoota30
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Playing devils advocate here, there's no official stamp on the communication AVZ shared, just signatures?
If this isn't official comms, where did AVZ get it from and who fabricated it?
Either way the ICSID has instructed the DRC gov to pull their heads in so if they just aren't communicating and not following interim orders, hurry up and fast track this ICSID and put the sword into them. Bunch of corrupt
If this isn't official comms, where did AVZ get it from and who fabricated it?
Either way the ICSID has instructed the DRC gov to pull their heads in so if they just aren't communicating and not following interim orders, hurry up and fast track this ICSID and put the sword into them. Bunch of corrupt
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