AVZ Discussion 2022

[Azzler]

Well we are moving in the right direction, and it's nice to feel we have gained ground for once.

But I don't think we got everything we wanted and it's puzzling as to why we didn't.

"The Company considers the unlawfulness of the transfer of PR 13359 from Dathcom to Cominiere,
which has been reversed under the Interim Orders, renders Cominiere’s relinquishment of the
northern portion of PR 13359 and the subsequent grant of PR 15775 to Manono Lithium SA to be
equally unlawful."

Here AVZ are saying they believe the 15775 was unlawful, but the tribunal didn't make any orders reversing that.
Which is of course the puzzling part if 13359 is owned by Dathcom (Tribunal interim enforced), how could some other cunts sell off part of something that's ours? You'd think this would follow naturally.

It looks like we gained strength but were left hanging.

There's always other sides and hidden sides to proceedings, in the interest of moving forward, perhaps this was the best outcome, maybe our BoD silently conceded to this, so they could still appear defiant to shareholders. These are just my musings of course.

IF the DRC actually abide and call 13359 belonging to Dathcom, and
IF the DRC grant Dathcom it's mining licence to only that southern portion...
Then hoo fucking raa! We hold an extremerly massively valuable asset still, and we'll be trading again and that's a win.

 

[Strongman]

Good start, we need 15775 sorted too.

Given 13359 was returned to Dathcom I can't see how Manono Lithium can keep the northern area. It was sold/traded on the basis of Com owning it which just got tiger uppercutted.

Yeah i think that the reason why 15775 has not been returned was merely a technical issue ie The third party ( Manono Lithium SA aka Zijin ) was not part of the Interim measure scope. The fact that 13359 has been returned to us automatically makes the creation and transfer of 15775 to Manono lithium SA illegal and will be delt with under our origial ICSID pending cases.
The interim measures are effective immediately and remain until the outcome of the original pending ICSID case

 

[Azzler]

Hey is anyone brave enough to post to Cominierie on twitter, "How does it feel to get fucked in the ass by the ISCID on the world stage?"

 

[wombat74]

 

[TheCount]

Don't know what's better - watching cominiere roast in the coming days or Hazelwood at Adelaide Oval! 4 wickets, 2 runs, 5 overs.....
TC.

 

[TheCount]

Hey is anyone brave enough to post to Cominierie on twitter, "How does it feel to get fucked in the ass by the ISCID on the world stage?"

Have done that - await a response..

 

[Pokok]

Old, pale and stale generation? - that's what I call my old man

Your grounded Sunday

 

[Xerof]

Yeah i think that the reason why 15775 has not been returned was merely a technical issue ie The third party ( Manono Lithium SA aka Zijin ) was not part of the Interim measure scope. The fact that 13359 has been returned to us automatically makes the creation and transfer of 15775 to Manono lithium SA illegal and will be delt with under our origial ICSID pending cases.
The interim measures are effective immediately and remain until the outcome of the original pending ICSID case

Dead right, and they're royally fucked in the fullness of time

 

[Dazmac66]

So Cominiere sells part of 15775 to Zijin (and becomes Manono lithium), ICSID says AVZ owns the lot so this becomes a dispute between Cominiere and Zijin! Nothing to do with AVZ and beyond the scope of the current proceedings. Am I reading this correctly?

 

[David holland]

So Cominiere sells part of 15775 to Zijin (and becomes Manono lithium), ICSID says AVZ owns the lot so this becomes a dispute between Cominiere and Zijin! Nothing to do with AVZ and beyond the scope of the current proceedings. Am I reading this correctly?

So how long before we come out of this mess

 

[Strongman]

So Cominiere sells part of 15775 to Zijin (and becomes Manono lithium), ICSID says AVZ owns the lot so this becomes a dispute between Cominiere and Zijin! Nothing to do with AVZ and beyond the scope of the current proceedings. Am I reading this correctly?

Yes mate exactly right. Cominiere have once again sold of what they dont own and this goes back to the FROR we had on the 15 % of Dathcom and will be dealt with in the pending ICSID cases. Basically they are fucken snookered.

 

[Carlos Danger]

So how long before we come out of this mess

27 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes and 11 seconds

 

[Winenut]

I'm 64 , I asked my 28 year old what generation I am , answer , cranky old bastard generation

Follow your wife's advice and have that drink

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

Gen-X and older will get the reference... Old Australian saying/terminology for getting bashed/beaten up..
TC.

I always thought it was 'fucked 6 ways from Sunday'?

Oh and GG AVZ at the ICSID too

 

[LOCKY82]

Bloody great announcement no let up now keep the pressure on at all costs, no favor or waiting games or promises

Best of luck to us all!

 

[LOCKY82]

I'm 64 , I asked my 28 year old what generation I am , answer , cranky old bastard generation

Is that a 28 year old wife!?!?

 

[FilthyRich2]

Would be interesting to know what the implications are for
Legal Fees incurred by AVZ to date.
Penalties accumulated up to the date of the decision and to which parties are burdened.
Costs of the ICSID hearings if it goes back to the guilty parties, and the impact on our contingent legal funding facility

It will be a huge negotiating point, as I expect all Zijin transactions will unfold, and they will fuck Cominierie as well.

They probably have someone knocking on our special non friends front door from Cominierie, requesting all snacks be repaid

They probably have Chinese intelligence agents outside to make sure he doesn't skip town. He deserves what is coming.

 

[Strongman]

Hey is anyone brave enough to post to Cominierie on twitter, "How does it feel to get fucked in the ass by the ISCID on the world stage?"

https://x.com/JAG80059733/status/1747887467318124817?s=20

Does this count

 

[Mute22]

Somebody is not handling the news well

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Cominiere supersedes the National government now lol