AVZ Discussion 2022
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Bray
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Interesting find this morning while browsing through Nabtrade news, IDA (Indiani Resources Limited) has been going through ICSID with Tanzania for dramas similar to ours has accepted ICSID findings and agreed via letter from the Attorney General to pay the amount owing currently 118 Million + interest.
PDF attached from Nabtrade for those interested
PDF attached from Nabtrade for those interested
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Finally another contender for "the mantle" emerges!!
Cumquat Cap
Regular
Interesting read and further solidifies the fact that African countries take ICSID very seriously. Cmon DRC, you can’t afford to pay 10b plus interest
Hemicuda
Regular
It’s just simple fact, everyone is thinking it
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Bray
Regular
It's great to see they're respecting ICSID decisions, maybe old mate will send DRC a text letting them know maybe they should sort their shit out
Dave Evans
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Its absolutely gob smacking that a president could garner a 80% vote approval , even at this early stage of the count for potentially leaving the DRC in a worse postion than when he took office in 2019.
I mean , at least the DRC locals knew what they were up for when Kabila was in office, corruption, despair and no hope full stop, but FT mandate was to quell corruption, up lift the locals standard of living, he conducted multiple trips around the globe spruiking that DRC was the epi centre of lithium battery hub, the vibe was positive...........yet in the end, DRC locals lives are still in despair, the war rages on and Manono is still stuck in the shit hole and corruption carries on unabated aka Cominiere / Zijin.
The ole saying, 'under promising and over delivering' is much better than 'over promising and under delivering "......or in FT case, delivering nothing.
Anyway, it is what it is , FT will receive another term in office, almost a monty for sure , so thus hoping @Dave Evans theory comes true and FT awards AVZ the ML once the politics is over.
Hoping that sometime in 2024 , the pain and anguish of LTH of AVZ for the last 20 months, turns into a bit of joy....
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peeps !!
imo
Nigel has had meetings with Tshisekedi thanks to Marius. Marius may have taken offence to comments by DLA Piper but doesn’t have an issue with Nigel and Marius has also condemned Kibeya Kabemba through this whole saga. Marius is now mending his relationship with Tshisekedi after a lot of mud was thrown at him.
I don’t think Tshisekedi had the power (or numbers) to do everything he wanted and he has had to deal with corrupt members of his parliament, including Guy Loando who pretends to support him.
I’m not suggesting he is squeaky clean obviously, all I’m doing is trying to post facts, and as far as election rigging, I’ve commented on that in the past, and you can either go with Tshisekedi, who gave the IGF more power which enabled us to present his evidence to the ICC and ICSID or you could go with Kutumbi who is a mining magnate, friend of Joseph Kabila and a former governor of Katanga. My thoughts on Katumbi are that he is also mates with Loando, Cong, Jerkoff and Allard so who do you prefer!
You can’t clean up endemic corruption in a single term and the DRC and other African countries wanting a greater slice of the battery metals pie is another issue we have to deal with on top of the years of deep seated corruption.
I don’t need counter arguments replying to this post, it’s just what I remember from watching things unfold and I basically don’t give a shit about bullshit comments and whinging, I’m only interested in facts.
Through this whole ordeal shareholders here have used this forum to vent and complain, and many of those never once posted one piece of information or research that was helpful to our cause.
I know you’re a good bloke BEISH and you make the effort to go to AGM’s and ask pertinent questions and bring the information back to this forum. That’s the kind of thing I keep my eye out for, not people venting their frustration and talking bullshit.
There’s a bloke on Twitter named August V who is very knowledgeable on politics who has explained quite a lot about the corruption in the DRC and how it would be impossible to eradicate it in one term in office.
I put his photo below and hopefully it won’t get time wasting responses to the fact he’s showing a photo of Tshisekedi with Biden because there’s already too many political comments on threads by people who don’t have the first idea about politics or economics
Tshisekedi is also incentivised to grant our ML and get Manono under construction because of Katumbi getting more votes in Tanganyika and Haut Katanga
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Dave Evans
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Omni Bridgeway down again. Bring on a class action against them
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Hi Pokok
Completely understand your frustration mate, completely agree with your sentiment regards to the perceived lack of support from our australian government and the sell out of our real estate to foreigners, but what i dont agree with..........is the racist connotations .
Not cool.
Just sayin.
I will be the first one to admit that i have had my fair share of whinges regards to FT and i will back off now cause you do make good points about " Rome wasnt built in a day " regards to corruption.
Katumbi was never a option for DRC president, as i agree with you.........he is corrupt to the core.
I have made my feelings clear in past posts as to who i would of liked to see become president, but they have no hope, so we have to now put the faith in the incumbent in the hope his mandate of 2019 finally comes to fruition in his second term.
Either that or ICSID / ICC arbitrations force the issue.....
Personally i prefer a expedited, amicable binding MOU to come to the fore so that there is no more time delays, to foster better relations and get on with the job of awakening the best lithium project on the planet..........Manono.
imo
I prefer not to make any predictions regarding the DRC election, however I can remember Nigel mumbling something along the lines of: I expect FT to win.I will be the first one to admit that i have had my fair share of whinges regards to FT and i will back off now cause you do make good points about " Rome wasnt built in a day " regards to corruption.
Katumbi was never a option for DRC president, as i agree with you.........he is corrupt to the core.
I have made my feelings clear in past posts as to who i would of liked to see become president, but they have no hope, so we have to now put the faith in the incumbent in the hope his mandate of 2019 finally comes to fruition in his second term.
Either that or ICSID / ICC arbitrations force the issue.....
Personally i prefer a expedited, amicable binding MOU to come to the fore so that there is no more time delays, to foster better relations and get on with the job of awakening the best lithium project on the planet..........Manono.
imo
I would say our people working in the DRC have a better feeling about what is happening on the ground in the DRC than me.
If FT wins, it would be in the DRC's interest he wins with a huge majority, so he can implement his policies and people can see him as a leader reappearing with a real set of cajones.
Also he can't use the argument that he is only still president, thanks to turtle head and the green dragon, amongst others.
To have a crack at eradicating corruption, he needs balls and a strong hand.
Will a strong FT help our cause? I bloody hope so.
If I was CKK, I wouldn't go near the 12th floor and risk free flying lessons.
Snakes don't fly well.
If FT wins, it would be in the DRC's interest he wins with a huge majority, so he can implement his policies
Excellent point...
No more excuses.
I agree the comments were out of line.
AVZ have worked hard to build relationships with many good people in the DRC. Racist comments serve no benefit to shareholders.
We have already seen how Klaus has exaggerated and blown comments out of proportion to falsely reflect views noted on social media.
I don’t mean to have a crack Pokok as I get you are frustrated like the rest of us.
I am looking forward to the ML being issued so AVZ can finally showcase our experience and friendliness of Aussies for the win-win relationship.
The mental frustrations are killer but with so many positives let’s hope 2024 is our year.
Hi Beisha
Not racist at all just my thinking , also i'm married to an asian with 3 mixed race kids and she agrees with me ,, totally sorry I offended anybody
Carlos Danger
Top 20
The ICSID decision for the requests from AVZ / Dathcom in the provisional hearing on December 11th was expected by xmas (14 day limit on decision from memory). Still no word. Gringos work this week so could possibly be news before new year.
and I got a smack on the bum from admin , so now I will keep my thoughts to myself and stalk in the background ,, but when all the photos of the people getting together for lunch to take leadership off BOD prior to AGM I am not on my Pat Malone with my thinking but yes we are all in this together , lets see what March brings
Xerof
Have a Cigar 1975
It's taken them 3 years to pass through ISCID process for this one, a likely template for our use, if it goes the full distance?
It's inaccurate to say the case is closed at this point - Tanzania have filed for an annulment, (but appear to be on shaky ground). I'm guessing the ad hoc tribunal suggested they wouldn't even contemplate this request for an annulment, unless Tanzania committed to all the penalties and will accept the conditions of the awards, prior to the hearing (which is what IDA's announcement was all about)
Thanks for posting Bray, a good example of the full process for us to be guided by
Fucken hell
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