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Listen to the 5 mins 4 second mark but Luca whole presentation is very impressive.
Listen to the 5 mins 4 second mark but Luca whole presentation is very impressive.
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David holland
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Going to be in Billions of products,Let the Good Times Roll
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The Significant Takeaway from this presentation by Luca Verre CEO Prophesee in my opinion:
1. Sony is their customer.
2. Sony and Prophesee have now brought a mass produced vision sensor to the market.
3. Prophesee commenced working with Sony to bring this vision sensor to market THREE YEARS AGO or sometime in 2019.
4. AKIDA engineering samples were produced and made available to early access customers under EAPs in OCTOBER, 2020 or TWO YEARS AGO.
5. RENESAS was announced as having licensed AKIDA IP on 23 December, 2020 or ONE YEAR AND ELEVEN MONTHS AGO.
6. NASA was announced as having become an EAP on 23 December, 2020 or ONE YEAR AND ELEVEN MONTHS AGO.
7. MegaChips was announced as having purchased an IP licence in October, 2021 or ONE YEAR AND ONE MONTH AGO.
8. Mercedes Benz announced it was working with Brainchip in January, 2022 or ELEVEN MONTHS AGO.
9. Valeo was announced in June, 2020 or TWO YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS AGO.
10. Ford was announced in May, 2020 or TWO YEARS AND SIX MONTHS AGO.
11. ARM, SiFive, Edge Impulse, Nviso and Prophesee all announced during 2022 or OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS.
So what are the other known facts that allow ME to say that Renesas the partners and the other EAPs from 2020 are not proceeding, taking too long or have no intention of bringing products to market containing complex science fiction level advanced AKIDA technology for original use cases when it took Sony and Prophesee three years to bring a simple event based vision sensor to market and Brainchip has stated that they continue to work with these trusted by partners and EAPs?
In fairness to Brainchip I will concede that where automotive applications are concerned there is an additional complicating factor involved in obtaining ISO 26262 certification. https://www.automotive-iq.com/electrics-electronics/articles/iso-26262-semiconductor-safety/amp
Genuine question so all sensible answers are welcomed.
My opinion only DYOR
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AKIDA BALLISTA
VictorG
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Would it not be probable that BRN moved from producing chips to licensing IP at the behest of the EAP's, partners, licenees so as to streamline Akida's integration.
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My understanding of the history is that in 2015 Peter van der Made stated in an AGM presentation that the end goal was for Brainchip to follow the ARM business model and become an IP supplier.
The AKIDA IP was available before the AKD1000 engineering samples which according to the then CEO Mr. Dinardo was required by early access customers to prove to them that the IP actually worked when implemented in silicon.
I suspect that by the time that Sean Hehir made his announcement that Brainchip was going fully IP that Brainchip had reached a point where the semiconductor market (not the morons on HC and WANCAs) accepted that the IP was real and did work as claimed and so the time was right. Remembering that by then they had the first commercially produced AKD1000 chips in hand and a range of platforms available to convince any with lingering doubts it was real.
It is useful also to note that for AKIDA 2.0 the CEO Sean Hehir stated the IP will be released then next year a reference chip may be produced.
My opinion only DYOR
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AKIDA BALLISTA
Mccabe84
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Also why would one pay millions of dollars for an IP when the potential customer can skip the middle man/woman ( who has paid for the IP of BRN )
VictorG
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It was around the same time when BRN was included in ARM's parnter program that Sean declared BRN's pivot to pure IP.
The timing of this move would have been heavily influenced by BRN's EAP's, because while EAP's loved AKIDA, I imagine their feedback was along the lines of they prefer Akida to be plug and play rather than requiring a platform of its own. Enter ARM and as they say the rest is history.
Which makes the BRN business model an essential study for startups.
The timing of this move would have been heavily influenced by BRN's EAP's, because while EAP's loved AKIDA, I imagine their feedback was along the lines of they prefer Akida to be plug and play rather than requiring a platform of its own. Enter ARM and as they say the rest is history.
Which makes the BRN business model an essential study for startups.
Fact Finder
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So let me be clear on this you are saying that despite:
1. Covid-19 lockdowns, lockouts, boarder closures, company collapses, workforce realignment to remote working, banning of international travel for business, and
2. Collapse of world wide semiconductor Supply chains, and
3. China USA trade war, cyber warfare involving hacking and election interference and
4. Russian invasion of Ukraine disrupting energy supply to the EU and UK, disruption of grain supplies to the developing world causing famine and death, oil price rises across the World, interest rate rises and inflationary pressures, lay offs in large tech companies, more cyber hacking and electoral interference and
5. Shortages of qualified engineers in the semiconductor space,
that things are pretty much going to plan with Brainchip as it moves from research company to commercial entity as set out back in 2015 by one of its founders?
My opinion only DYOR
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AKIDA BALLISTA
VictorG
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That's it in a nutshell FF.
If I may add one extra point, since 2015 BRN executive branch has morphed into IMO the most impressive team assembled and I'm sure the envy of their peers. I especially have enormous respect for Sean Hehir and consider BRN is fortunate to have him steering the course.
If I may add one extra point, since 2015 BRN executive branch has morphed into IMO the most impressive team assembled and I'm sure the envy of their peers. I especially have enormous respect for Sean Hehir and consider BRN is fortunate to have him steering the course.
RobjHunt
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Oh dear!
The share price is certainly in the 60c range today as it was yesterday, unfortunately it wont change up or down as it is the weekend. I wonder if something BrainChip positive is announced tomorrow if the value of your shares would change. Possibly, possibly not. However what, in my opinion, will happen is that your shares value will change with a positive announcement from BrainChip, a company using our Akida IP or a public published acknowledgment from an NDA or EAP mob.
A share price, as you say back to a 60c range, for me is healthy because IF a positive announcement from BrainChip, a company using our Akida IP or a public published acknowledgment from an NDA or EAP mob would, I'm sure, increase the value of my shares. The question is though, when do you think this may happen??
As an investor the greatest piece of advice I received from one of my ole mates prior to me treking down this shares trail was that you only spend your hard earned money on stocks if you are prepared to lose it, if it works then......winner!
All I'm saying is that those stocks you spend your hard earnt on, just wait because not much happens overnight but there's a fair chance that it will happen at some stage. Good or bad depends on your due diligence and research.
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Hi Sirod69,
This article may provide some insight to your question, however potentially it will be the NDA's that may impact full disclosure within the device.
Carnegie Mellon University’s (CMU) CyLab Security and Privacy Institute has a novel approach that the team there has been working on for years:
Agarwal said. The label can contain, among other things, a link to the product manufacturer’s privacy policy, the type of sensors used, what parties data is shared with, whether or not data is stored on the device and in the cloud,
He commented, “What we found was that U.S. consumers did want this information, and they understood the risk and the perils of a device that is not patched or not updated, and does not have clear disclosures of what data is captured and what kind of sensor it has and what that sensor does. Consumers want this information.”
Edge Compute.
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David holland
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Once again potentially Akida will be in billions of products, Research done now time to wait for revenue to hit then where off to the races, also the key was purchasing early days
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To me they are still adding that extra potential commercial momentum for when the ball starts rolling (if not already... they could be just leaning forward?). Though based on the last 8mths (re above by @Fact Finder) it looks to me like that time is fast approaching.
The fellow at the bottom represents the companies who weren't taking notice.
I'd say the same thing about edge AI in general. Either way it's a good thing for us, being such a massive and diverse market.
Off camera there is a large group of fellow snowball enthusiasts, physics teachers, youtubers and mates/family of the second fellow.
All with different interests in the outcome.
Please forgive my optimism.
They have been manually building that/those snowball/s for a while now. The larger ones might need a bit more effort but they have invited their buddies along who know it'll be a cool and mutually beneficial outcome so are multiplying the effort.
I've no doubt there will be some obstacles further down the hill and they will always need to be thinking about their direction which is what the focus on continuing R&D and ecosystems is about. The goal I believe is to have multiple snowballs going in all directions with new ones being worked on all the time.
Give me a break, it's metaphor Sunday!
Falling Knife
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To right, the rest of Luca presentation is awesome
How about these snipets
at 11:29 - 12:13
we are also glad of our partnership with sony, sony is the market leader in convention image sensor and we started
this collaboration with sony more than three years ago and sony gave us access to
one of the most advanced technology process in image sensor which is a bsi 3d stack process
and this technology migration has been fundamental for us because we
managed to build the smallest event-based sensor which is today mass production and available in the market
so this is currently being together with sony deployed in several
applications covering industrial and iot
Or this gem paragraph 12:13
Together with the sensor
prophecy is also investing heavily in providing IoT to the market to the
ecosystem partners metavision intelligence suite which is a software development kit containing
almost hundred algorithm of computer vision ai several code samples and ready to use application for example to do
high-speed counting vibration measurement to do some object tracking edgelet tracking as well as several
tools for machine learning like for example a tool for for data collection
for training model training as well as pre-trained model and
also several available data set of pre-trained data
label data so all this is available because as as we are coming to the market with the new
a new technology new technology standard we need to also enable the
market with tools and and asset to
easily adopt the technology we also last year we decided to for example
push an open source architecture of our software for the same purpose of
enabling a community of researchers and engineers to keep developing and experimenting with our technology
a few applications that we have been in unlocking with our customers
one is particle object size monitoring is quite straightforward for our
technology that enable high-speed machine vision in real time with
a speed that are reaching 500 000 pixels per second with counting precision that can
be 99% the reason is that almost natively
you get from moving part of the scene a motion segmentation and from
this motion segmentation you can detect and track a moving part of the scene like for example pills in in a
pharmaceutical process or grains in a food and beverage process
or cells and this is what we have done with energy consult has been has been doing working on our sensor.
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I'm stopping here but there is so much more suggested in this presentation.
It feels like having just ONE partner, like Prophesee, is enough to have AKIDA accepted commercially in a significant way.
Well worth the time, Luca finishes presenting at 19:48
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