BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Diogenese]

Hi @Diogenese and @factfinder @uiux and any other long termer.

Have there been any previous dots connecting Brainchip with Logitech? I don’t recall reading anything.

I was trolling through Rob Telson’s Linkedin account and he ‘liked’ a Logitech product:

Logitech announces Sight, an AI-powered tabletop camera for Hybrid Meetings

I know a ‘random’ like by itself doesn’t mean anything. Who knows, maybe he ‘liked’ it because he wants to buy one for the office to help facilitate zoom meetings.

However, I came across an article from October 2019 co-written by Giorgia Dellaferrera of IBM and Miloš Cerňak of Logitech.

The article discusses the validity of using SNN architecture for VAD (Voice Activity Detection system). It references Loihi on a few occasions but no reference to AKIDA.

This is the conclusion:
4. CONCLUSION We propose a SNN architecture for VAD. We developed a novel method for encoding the filterbank single frame features into spike patterns. We next integrated the new encoding scheme into a simple bilayer architecture which we evaluated on the QUT-NOISE-TIMIT data set. We showed that exploiting the power-efficiency properties of SNNs enables the design of VAD systems working at constant low power and achieving performances comparable to the state-of-the art methods. Our framework exhibits a low latency and relies on relatively small training data.

file:///C:/Users/g_rho/Downloads/A_Bin_Encoding_Training_of_a_Spiking_Neural_Networ.pdf

In another article she writes about SNN and back-propogation, so I don’t think she was using AKIDA. I haven’t found any connection to Brainchip but was curious if Logitech may have seen the light and started using AKIDA in the past 2 years. I’m wondering if there is any significance to Rob’s ‘like’, SNN, and Logitech. Are there any patents from Logitech using SNN?

I would appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance.

Hi Forrest,

Logitech have seveeral NN patents/applications. This one seems to relate to the table camera:

US10965908B1 Advanced video conferencing systems and methods
Priority 2020

The advanced single camera video conferencing system features a hybrid optical/digital camera, herein a camera device, having a controller that is configured to execute one or more of the methods set forth herein. In one embodiment, a method includes optically framing, a first portion of a video conferencing environment to provide an actual field-of-view, digitally framing a second portion of the video conferencing environment to provide an apparent field-of-view that is encompassed within the actual field-of-view, generating a video stream of the apparent field-of-view, surveying the actual field-of-view to generate survey data, and detecting changes in the survey data over time. The method may be performed using a single camera device using a single image sensor.

[0070] At activity 345 , the method 300 includes analyzing each of the plurality of survey frames to generate survey data 228 . Analyzing the survey frames may include using a software application 224 executing on the processor 212 to detect and/or recognize conference participants located within the actual field-of-view, e.g., by use of convolutional neural network.

They have 3 other patents with the same title so they probably cover different inventive features.

They also have a couple of dozen other patents in the NN field:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/pat...5908B1?q=pa = "logitech" AND nftxt = "neural"

While the power may not be a problem, the CNN latency may be.

I believe that there is now a SNN SoC which can run CNN and native SNN at very low power, high accuracy and real time.

 

[SERA2g]

We've had good fun losing cash on @MC🐠 ridiculous crypto calls
Except for @SERA2g and @zeeb0t who seemed to make a ton on complete shitcoins right after we bought them and lost it all

Fun times

Still waiting on that beer though from Sera

One day mate, when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then I will buy you a beer, and not before.

 

[cassip]

Jerome Nadels former company Rambus released this a few days ago:

Rambus Delivers PCIe 6.0 Interface Subsystem for High-Performance Data Center and AI SoCs​

Rambus Delivers PCIe 6.0 Interface Subsystem for High-Performance Data Center and AI SoCs

Rambus announced the availability of its PCI Express® (PCIe®) 6.0 Interface Subsystem comprised of PHY and controller IP.

www.businesswire.com

 

[ForrestofHope]

Hi Forrest,

Logitech have seveeral NN patents/applications. This one seems to relate to the table camera:

US10965908B1 Advanced video conferencing systems and methods
Priority 2020
View attachment 20495



The advanced single camera video conferencing system features a hybrid optical/digital camera, herein a camera device, having a controller that is configured to execute one or more of the methods set forth herein. In one embodiment, a method includes optically framing, a first portion of a video conferencing environment to provide an actual field-of-view, digitally framing a second portion of the video conferencing environment to provide an apparent field-of-view that is encompassed within the actual field-of-view, generating a video stream of the apparent field-of-view, surveying the actual field-of-view to generate survey data, and detecting changes in the survey data over time. The method may be performed using a single camera device using a single image sensor.

[0070] At activity 345 , the method 300 includes analyzing each of the plurality of survey frames to generate survey data 228 . Analyzing the survey frames may include using a software application 224 executing on the processor 212 to detect and/or recognize conference participants located within the actual field-of-view, e.g., by use of convolutional neural network.

They have 3 other patents with the same title so they probably cover different inventive features.

They also have a couple of dozen other patents in the NN field:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/075164641/publication/US10965908B1?q=pa = "logitech" AND nftxt = "neural"

While the power may not be a problem, the CNN latency may be.

I believe that there is now a SNN SoC which can run CNN and native SNN at very low power, high accuracy and real time.

Thanks. I appreciate you looking into it.

 

[Makeme 2020]

Junk commentary is junk commentary. And all of that is my opinion. All of this has nothing to do with my title of "founding member".

You still haven't addressed my comments directed at you earlier today.

Wilzy123: Is it because you are a Founding member you think you can Intimate new members.................

 

[Makeme 2020]

HOW DARE SEAN TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT REVENUE BEING LUMPY!!!!!!

TALK IS CHEAP BUDDY.....SEAN DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE SHAREHOLDERS WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED ??????????/

 

[Fact Finder]

Respectfully, today's drop had nothing to do with the broader market and everything to do with us making zero sales for the quarter when Sean Hehir clearly stated that revenue growth would exceed expense growth by the end of the year. He's got 12 weeks left to make this happen.

I give in. You are right all the CEO’s fault, trader manipulation, short activity, panicked ignorant poorly researched inexperienced retail investors, institutional accumulators and overall market conditions have absolutely nothing to do with Brainchips price movement today so if he does not achieve your target in 12 weeks I will call for his removal.

What is your make or break performance indicator for the CEO in 12 weeks?

I think it’s only fair we tell him ASAP what he has to do to achieve same and keep his position as CEO after Christmas.

It will also allow him to resign now if he does not think he can match or better your indicators in the time frame.

Regards
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

PS: On the subject of poorly researched inexperienced retail I think it is a reasonable conclusion that those who have attacked Rob Telson and his sales ability have ignored that it was Rob Telson who sealed the MEGACHIPS deal because he was solely responsible for sales at the earliest point they could have been engaging with Brainchip. As Peter van der Made stated in his interview the market does not appreciate the significance of this achievement and it appears posters here have no idea that it was down to Rob Telson’s ability to close the big deals. By the way he also closed the ARM and Edge Impulse partnerships.

 

[Jumpchooks]

Congrats to all who had the courage to snap up some cheap shares today. I managed to just miss the bottom and bought a bunch at 0.715 but am happy with my new total holdings. These shares are now in a safe home. Might see if I can add more next week before it bounces back, and bounce back it will! Not enough volume today given the amount of shorted stock on record. Barely put a scratch on total shorts. They need to buy back at some stage.
This was simply instos algo triggering stop losses, working on fear to accumulate. Someone accumulated big time!!!! Next phase they will pump on smallest positive news in order to dump. Mark my words.
Have a great weekend all. The future is bright indeed.
Akida ballista.

I did similar to you, bought 27800 @ 0.718 then they went down further. Still happy with my purchase . The view from here is wonderful, keep smiling everyone, this is just a blip, like a valley in my pic. Mt Kosciuszko is in the distance, Everest beyond

 

[alwaysgreen]

I give in. You are right all the CEO’s fault, trader manipulation, short activity, panicked ignorant poorly researched inexperienced retail investors, institutional accumulators and overall market conditions have absolutely nothing to do with Brainchips price movement today so if he does not achieve your target in 12 weeks I will call for his removal.

What is your make or break performance indicator for the CEO in 12 weeks?

I think it’s only fair we tell him ASAP what he has to do to achieve same and keep his position as CEO after Christmas.

It will also allow him to resign now if he does not think he can match or better your indicators in the time frame.

Regards
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

PS: On the subject of poorly researched inexperienced retail I think it is a reasonable conclusion that those who have attacked Rob Telson and his sales ability have ignored that it was Rob Telson who sealed the MEGACHIPS deal because he was solely responsible for sales at the earliest point they could have been engaging with Brainchip. As Peter van der Made stated in his interview the market does not appreciate the significance of this achievement and it appears posters here have no idea that it was down to Rob Telson’s ability to close the big deals. By the way he also closed the ARM and Edge Impulse partnerships.

I don't appreciate the passive aggressive and condescending tone mate.

You can continue to blame everyone else but the reality is our share price is back in the 60s because we are not generating enough revenue to justify our market cap.

Spin it all you like but had we generated $40 million revenue this quarter, would we have dropped over 20 percent or ended up well in the green, regardless of all the other conditions you are trying to shift blame to.

Blind Freddie knows the answer to that.

 

[Labsy]

Yeah I reckon it will hover here for a while, perhaps go a little lower while the shorters have a field day - unlike those on this forum the majority of shareholders don't know that there are things going on behind the scenes. This could be it, an oppo to pick up shares at prices we (well me anyway) never thought we'd ever see again. Tough decision, buying while there is blood in the water but today might be the day we all talk and laugh about in years to come - when the SP is $67 and not 67c.

Spot on. I too didn't expect to see these numbers was again. I was refreshing my account balance all day, waiting for funds to transfer. Fortunately they came later in the day but would ha w proffered just an hour later when it dropped to 65 cents.. all good... added and locked away. I have no doubt we will see $67 and this will be a story to tell.

 

[SERA2g]

I did similar to you, bought 27800 @ 0.718 then they went down further. Still happy with my purchase . The view from here is wonderful, keep smiling everyone, this is just a blip, like a valley in my pic. Mt Kosciuszko is in the distance, Everest beyond

I picked up 1,750 at 71.5.

Would have loved to buy more but I'm trying to be fiscally responsible with the arrival of my first in February!

Couldn't help myself today though lol.

 

[buena suerte :-)]

I picked up 1,750 at 71.5.

Would have loved to buy more but I'm trying to be fiscally responsible with the arrival of my first in February!

Couldn't help myself today though lol.

Hey mate ... great news on your first Congratulations ... catch up for a few soon!

 

[Fact Finder]

I don't appreciate the passive aggressive and condescending tone mate.

You can continue to blame everyone else but the reality is our share price is back in the 60s because we are not generating enough revenue to justify our market cap.

Spin it all you like but had we generated $40 million revenue this quarter, would we have dropped over 20 percent or ended up well in the green, regardless of all the other conditions you are trying to shift blame to.

Blind Freddie knows the answer to that.

Once again you have won that one.

Forty million would have blown the roof off particularly as the CEO Sean Hehir was only aiming to have income growth out pace expenses by first half 2023.

I obviously have no idea and my research adds nothing so I will let you and the others get on with making your valid observations about what a group of losers are in charge at Brainchip.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[Dijon101]

Pushing back my retirement and plans to open up my own business another 6 months.....

Damn.

Excluding revenue I'll just comb over the 4c and make a conclusion of where we are at.
Oh wait, nothing really has changed. Patience still required.

 

[Deadpool]

Too late for lube. Today felt like bareback first time with Ron Jeremy.

well you won't be walking tomorrow

 

[KKFoo]

Some how the last half yearly report is telling me that the technology is viable, current 4Cs are just some hiccups, I think I just go with continue accumulation at this low price, hopefully I got it right and celebrate with all of you..

 

[buena suerte :-)]

I haven't lost any money today at all.............because I haven't sold any shares

View attachment 20438

Ditto .... Enough said .....

 

[Slymeat]

You left out Mankind's increasingly sedentary lifestyle

We are hunter/gatherers by nature, over 90% of what people "gather " in supermarkets is utter garbage.

If you couldn't hunt it down directly, pick it off of a tree, or dig it out of the ground, people shouldn't be eating it really..

The rest is manufactured, purely for profit.

I once read a "horror" comic, as a kid, which showed a future of obese humans, in chairs, with tubes going into them, locked into an alternative reality (by their own choice) with video screen helmets.

I read this comic book, over 30 years ago!

How far off, are some from this future, with the Metaverse?

Shorting action and positions, will be interesting, as they come out over the next few days..

Don't look at the share price, if it's upsetting, ladies and gentlemen

I intentionally left out any mention of exercise as it has little to do with the subject matter of the post I was replying to regarding the Food Revolution video.

Exercise, in and of itself, does not make you lose weight. Changing your lifestyle DOES! And that starts with forgetting the lies you have been force-fed regarding diet.

I encourage an active lifestyle. Being active keeps you healthy and makes you feel better. But even vigorous exercise will not make up for a bad diet.

That a sedentary lifestyle causes obesity is a common misconception and is also completely misguided. Exercise does next to nothing to keep you slim. It has an immense impact on your fitness and physical well being but does next to nothing for weight control.

I watched a documentary on TV, only last week, that studied a hunter-gatherer tribe in Africa. They started with the hypothesis that these people were super active and must burn more calories than the average couch potatoe. The males averaged something like 20km on foot each day. Long term tracking of just about everything to do with the diet and body chemistry, showed they burned no more calories, and actually averaged less than the average western couch potatoe. Their bodies had simply adapted to their way of life, and that way of life didn't result in storing body fat.

The following link is to a related article (not the documentary that was on TV—I don't remember it's title so can't look it up)

The Exercise Paradox

Simply stated, the human body is very efficient and will attempt to reach homeostasis whenever possible. The body's metabolism will speed up or slow down to adapt to differences in the equation of energy needs vs energy consumed, and when excess is consumed, it will simply store that excess as fat.

I had originally penned many more lines of text but deleted them as this discussion is off topic.

 

[wilzy123]

Wilzy123: Is it because you are a Founding member you think you can Intimate new members.................

Yes. That's

TALK IS CHEAP BUDDY.....SEAN DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE SHAREHOLDERS WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED ??????????

TALK IS CHEAP BUDDY.....SEAN DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE SHAREHOLDERS WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED ??????????/

 

[TECH]

I picked up 1,750 at 71.5.

Would have loved to buy more but I'm trying to be fiscally responsible with the arrival of my first in February!

Couldn't help myself today though lol.

Your post earlier today was excellent N.

I also bought a small parcel today as well.

Short-term pain is going to continue for some time in my opinion, the only way this pattern will change is obvious, but at present the shorts, down-rampers, short-term punters, even my negative neighbor gave me a serve, so I just told him that I had bought more, the average joe just doesn't know or understand our company to the degree that I and many here do, it's not an easy gig selling this technology, despite what we all probably think.

Even Lou liked to throw out the expression, "lumpy revenue".

Sean doesn't need to attempt to explain, why at present, though fluff wording needs to remain out of his CEO comments, in my opinion. they do more harm than good, and remember he's only held this position for some 10 months, during which time has basically rebranded the company and helped employ some key personnel.

Despite being a little frustrated with the current situation, I personally feel that my revised timeline is very fair, that being, 2 solid years of growth ahead, I'm not one for making excuses or hearing them, we all make daily choices, as do the Brainchip key staff, let's hope that they all remain accountable for theirs, on our behalf that is.

Almost a father, congratulations from Uncle Tech x