BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Sirod69]

if you think about it, every car needs wheels to go. Now there are very many wheel companies, but one company stands out because they develop wheels that, say, no longer cause accidents on black ice, are the wheels then advertised or the car company that uses these wheels? and yet this company, which developed these special bikes, earns money and more and more investors are going into this company

this is about much, much more possibilities, not just about cars and that's what makes BRN so unique and I'm so thankful for all this great information here from our hardware specialists, even if I still don't understand all the details.

The prospect of AI being able to help people, handycapt people, is unimaginable to me and yet wonderful

 

[Proga]

Nvidia has the lead to pull everything together for MB in regards to the MBUX and/or the ADAS for the 2024 release. I'll have a quick look but if I find it, it will be a fluke. I've read so many articles and watch too many videos to save everything.

Here we go

Brains and Brawn: Mercedes-AMG SL Sports MBUX, Powered by NVIDIA, for Intelligent Performance

Mercedes-AMG took the wraps off its next-generation SL, bringing its long heritage of sport into the age of AI.

blogs.nvidia.com

Mercedes-Benz, NVIDIA Partner to Build the World’s Most Advanced, Software-Defined Vehicles

Mercedes-Benz and NVIDIA announced that the automaker will launch software-defined, intelligent vehicles using end-to-end NVIDIA technology.

blogs.nvidia.com

 

[TheUnfairAdvantage]

Morning Chippers,

Just pulling Xdragon's post to the fore.

Great find, this will obviously be a price sensitive announcement on the ASX , most likely today, as the US management had yesterday, Monday in US, to get their act together for Australian investors today.

Waiting.......

Keep calm all , new day.

Regards,
Esq.

Price sensitive announcements!

Since when has Brainchip started making price sensitive announcements?

Watch the financials FFS!

On a serious note though. You’d have to think this news when it breaks, is going to accelerate some of the NDA’s progress and hopefully some partnerships become more transparent.

On the Iceberg argument. I thought the entire TSEx site was reference material to all “speculative” names above or below the iceberg. I would have thought everyone understood the context of the iceberg. Bit of fun pictorial to demonstrate RT’s cryptic message. An extraordinary amount of discussion has taken place to create it. That discussion is TSEx. What’s the point of this site if one person wants to discredit it all based on the argument that nothing is evidenced in documentation. The evidence is TSEx speculative discussions.

So what. We all do a FF and chose not to post anymore. Do we listen to Uiux and just agree it is all BS until a proven document exists with real reference to Akida. Is TSEx discussion either a waste of energy or a foregone conclusion that these speculative partners are in fact using Akida technology under IP licence.

I have used this site as a reference to better understand the market in which Brainchip participates. I’ve enjoyed the speculation, but understood it is exactly that until the company delivers the goods. The goods to me is revenue from IP. This leads me back to the tongue in cheek comment earlier. Watch the financials. I still believe that the business model will produce significant income in the future. We desperately need to see exponential growth in the next 4c or we can forget fanciful SP valuations for many years. In other words, if Sean H can’t convert world leading edge AI tech in todays environment of Edge AI histeria into revenue “now” then Akida doesn’t necessarily live up to customers expectations in the real world as it does in BRN managements eyes in the workshop.

Keep the faith people and please don’t stop the research or speculation!

 

[toasty]

Seems pretty straighforward to me. MB have already said Braincip are the AI experts and that AKIDA is deployed in the EQXX for infotainment and other systems. They have also confirmed AKIDA will be used in future production models. From other published info we know that MB has chosen NVIDIA as their systems integrator so, ergo, NVIDIA must be dealing with Brainchip, at the very least on MB projects..........

 

[uiux]

Price sensitive announcements!

Since when has Brainchip started making price sensitive announcements?

Watch the financials FFS!

On a serious note though. You’d have to think this news when it breaks, is going to accelerate some of the NDA’s progress and hopefully some partnerships become more transparent.

On the Iceberg argument. I thought the entire TSEx site was reference material to all “speculative” names above or below the iceberg. I would have thought everyone understood the context of the iceberg. Bit of fun pictorial to demonstrate RT’s cryptic message. An extraordinary amount of discussion has taken place to create it. That discussion is TSEx. What’s the point of this site if one person wants to discredit it all based on the argument that nothing is evidenced in documentation. The evidence is TSEx speculative discussions.

So what. We all do a FF and chose not to post anymore. Do we listen to Uiux and just agree it is all BS until a proven document exists with real reference to Akida. Is TSEx discussion either a waste of energy or a foregone conclusion that these speculative partners are in fact using Akida technology under IP licence.

I have used this site as a reference to better understand the market in which Brainchip participates. I’ve enjoyed the speculation, but understood it is exactly that until the company delivers the goods. The goods to me is revenue from IP. This leads me back to the tongue in cheek comment earlier. Watch the financials. I still believe that the business model will produce significant income in the future. We desperately need to see exponential growth in the next 4c or we can forget fanciful SP valuations for many years. In other words, if Sean H can’t convert world leading edge AI tech in todays environment of Edge AI histeria into revenue “now” then Akida doesn’t necessarily live up to customers expectations in the real world as it does in BRN managements eyes in the workshop.

Keep the faith people and please don’t stop the research or speculation!

"Do we listen to Uiux and just agree it is all BS until a proven document exists with real reference to Akida"






It IS bullshit unless you can show me the evidence

 

[toasty]

"Do we listen to Uiux and just agree it is all BS until a proven document exists with real reference to Akida"






It IS bullshit unless you can show me the evidence

In respect of NVIDIA please refer to my post above...........

 

[TheUnfairAdvantage]

"Do we listen to Uiux and just agree it is all BS until a proven document exists with real reference to Akida"






It IS bullshit unless you can show me the evidence

It was a rhetorical question lol.

Don’t take it as a personal attack. I think the context of the post is agreeing with you. But hey, let this site be what it is. A bit of fun. And when we want factual research posts, we will refer to yours and yours only

 

[uiux]

In respect of NVIDIA please refer to my post above...........

Yeah I understand how an Nvidia system running a car will potentially interact with all the Akida chips in a system

I get how Mercedes working with Nvidia and Brainchip to develop systems for a car indicates the possibility that Nvidias system might handle data coming from Akida chips



But that isn't enough for me to state that BrainChip + Nvidia is a thing

 

[Bravo]

@Dhm asked @Bravo about the connection between Nvidia and Brainchip, I think she will be able to explain something about it to us.
One could wait and see.
With your derogatory reaction, you strongly question the many researches of all those who have been dealing with brainchips for years.
Many of these great members want to filter all these posts, which they apparently don't have and don't have to do, since not everyone has the time to do so.

An appreciation of this enormous work by these long-standing shareholders would be appropriate, wouldn't it?

Hi @Sirod69 and @Dhm,

The connections I made regarding NVDIA are all in relation to Mercedes ADAS 2024/2025.

• In an interview with Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius, he talks about working together with Nvidia on the next generation of autonomous automated drive systems which are going to be in the market towards the end of 2024 into 2025. (Mercedes is our partner).
• Another article shows NVDIA's Hyperion 8 will start shipping in Mercedes Benz cars in 2024.
• Another article shows DRIVE Hyperion includes a complete sensor setup on top of centralized compute and AI software, its sensor suite encompasses 12 cameras, nine radars, 12 ultrasonics and one front-facing lidar sensor.The radar suite includes Hella short-range and Continental long-range and imaging radars for redundant sensing. Sony and Valeo cameras provide the cutting edge in visual sensing, in addition to ultrasonic sensors from Valeo for measuring object distance. (Valeo is our partner).
• Another article shows the DRIVE leverages Arm CPU cores and deep learning and computer vision accelertaors. (Arm is our partner).
• Slides from NVDIA's Investor Day 2021 Presentation shows the NVDIA + ARM relationship and also shows a Business Model with Mercedes for shared revenue for AutoPilot and AI cockpit software per car.

The posts can all be viewed here:
#25,011
#25,015
#25,022
#25,091
#25,102

Whilst there has obviously been no announcements made about BrainChip partnering with NVDIA, I think that there is enough here to assume that AKIDA will be teamed up with NVDIA & Arm in the DRIVE Hyperion, particularly since we have had such glowing endorsements from Mercedes about AKIDA's performance in the Vision EQXX.

As far as @BaconLover's fabulous iceberg goes and @Neuromorphia's amasing chart , I understand that there is a demarcation in the area below the waterline which we leave for available for any companies that are speculative only because whilst we can find certain links via other partnerd, etc, we do not have any direct links via annoucements. Direct links go above the waterline.

I am very sorry if I inadvertently lead anyone to believe we have a direct partnership with NVDIA as we don't at this stage, but I think we will in the not too distant future.

Also @Dhm, I'm actually a she not a he.

B x

 

[xdragon]

Morning Chippers,

Just pulling Xdragon's post to the fore.

Great find, this will obviously be a price sensitive announcement on the ASX , most likely today, as the US management had yesterday, Monday in US, to get their act together for Australian investors today.

Waiting.......

Keep calm all , new day.

Regards,
Esq.

I think we will hear about it in 3 months time, as there is a 3 months advertising period after acceptance.

 

[toasty]

Yeah I understand how an Nvidia system running a car will potentially interact with all the Akida chips in a system

I get how Mercedes working with Nvidia and Brainchip to develop systems for a car indicates the possibility that Nvidias system might handle data coming from Akida chips



But that isn't enough for me to state that BrainChip + Nvidia is a thing

I worked for many years for a couple of software companies that produced products which were integrated with others to form a complete system. They were, in effect, enabling technologies, just like AKIDA. The client chose a systems integrator to bring the whole thing together but often specified particular hardware and software to be included in the finished package. This ALWAYS necesitated close relationships between and amongst the project participants. This is how systems integration works. Based on my experience I would be willing to bet my substantial holding in BRN that we are working closely not only with NVIDIA but also with other suppliers of product to the MB project.

 

[BaconLover]

Let me just say this before I walk myself out.

The iceberg was a simple visualization to help people understand the potential and companies BRN works with.

It was NOT a Research Paper submitted to a University for it to be 100% referenced.

It even had a fake Elon tweet ''I love Akida'' (Ofcourse Elon didn't tweet this, it was a photoshopped joke, for those who don't know FFS)

Thanks for everything, I have removed the said controversial iceberg, have fun with all your investing ventures.

I hope you all have great success with BRN. This would be one company I would HOLD a part of shares for the rest of my investing career.

Akida Ballista!

 

[uiux]

I worked for many years for a couple of software companies that produced products which were integrated with others to form a complete system. They were, in effect, enabling technologies, just like AKIDA. The client chose a systems integrator to bring the whole thing together but often specified particular hardward and software to be included in the finished package. This ALWAYS necesitated close relationships between and amongst the project participants. This is how systems integration works. Based on my experience I would be willing to bet my substantial holding in BRN that we are working closely not only with NVIDIA but also with other suppliers of product to the MB project.

That's great

I am not saying that Nvidia aren't building out support for sensors that are powered by Akida.

Nvidia are very clearly working with neuromorphic technologies:

US20220067531 - EFFICIENT IDENTIFICATION OF CRITICAL FAULTS IN NEUROMORPHIC HARDWARE OF A NEURAL NETWORK

Interesting patent from NVIDIA @Diogenese https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US352838908 US20220067531 - EFFICIENT IDENTIFICATION OF CRITICAL FAULTS IN NEUROMORPHIC HARDWARE OF A NEURAL NETWORK Abstract The disclosure provides misclassification-driven training (MDT) that...

thestockexchange.com.au

But don't bullshit me. There is no direct connection yet and the more people keep pushing these false connections, the more the real connections are discredited.

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Let me just say this before I walk myself out.

The iceberg was a simple visualization to help people understand the potential and companies BRN works with.

It was NOT a Research Paper submitted to a University for it to be 100% referenced.

It even had a fake Elon tweet ''I love Akida'' (Ofcourse Elon didn't tweet this, it was a photoshopped joke, for those who don't know FFS)

Thanks for everything, I have removed the said controversial iceberg, have fun with all your investing ventures.

I hope you all have great success with BRN. This would be one company I would HOLD a part of shares for the rest of my investing career.

Akida Ballista!

BL .....the ICEBERG is fricking awesome mate ...I have it as my screensaver ...PLEASE do not delete..... 99.9% of us love it

 

[Sirod69]

oh bravo, sure you're a she and not a he, knew you shed some light on the game

 

[Potato]

 

[stuart888]

As you say fmf, not Akida.

The priority date is November 2018, which is probably too early for Akida.

They do talk about 2-bit quantzations which will save power and time, but don't mention our secret sauce n-of-m rank coding.

US2021350233A1 System and Method for Automated Precision Configuration for Deep Neural Networks
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[0003] In modern intelligent applications and devices, deep neural networks (DNNs) have become ubiquitous when solving complex computer tasks, such as recognizing objects in images and translating natural language. The success of these networks has been largely dependent on high performance computing machinery, such as Graphics Processing Units (GPUs) and server-class Central Processing Units (CPUs). Consequently, the adoption of DNNs to solve real-world problems is typically limited to scenarios where such computing is available. Recently, many new computer processors specifically designed for artificial intelligence (AI) applications have emerged. These dedicated processors, such as Field Programmable Gate Arrays (FPGAs), Application Specific Integrated Circuits (ASICs) and analog computers offer the promise of more efficient and accessible AI products and services. However, designing DNN models optimized for these new processors remains a significant challenge for AI engineers and application developers. Significant domain expertise and trial-and-error is often required to create an optimized DNN for a specialized hardware. One of the main challenges is how to enable a precision configuration for a given DNN architecture that maintains accuracy and optimizes for memory, energy and latency performance on a given hardware architecture. The task of quantizing individual layers of a DNN, which can contain dozens of layers, often results in sub optimal performance in a real-world environment. Thus, there is significant interest in automating the task of enabling a precision configuration for an entire DNN architecture that considers the properties of the hardware architecture to optimize memory, energy and latency as well as maintain a desired level of accuracy on the given dataset.
...
0007] There exists a need for scalable, automated processes for model quantization on diverse DNN architectures and hardware back-ends. Generally, it is found that the current capacity for model quantization is outpaced by the rapid development of new DNNs and disparate hardware platforms that aim to increase the applicability and efficiency of deep learning workloads.

Kind of surprised no one picked up on the statement of @Diogenese about "secret sauce"!

"They do talk about 2-bit quantzations which will save power and time, but don't mention our secret sauce n-of-m rank coding."

N-of-M Rank Coding is tough for us regular folks. The detailed technical neural architecture takes time to learn. I urge everyone to try to comprehend JAST at least at a high level.

I think 1000 eyes secret sauce's new name is not Dodgy Knees, rather Mr N-of-M Rank Coding. Thanks for pointing us trying to learn the details toward the secret sauce.

I do appreciate it big time.

 

[Proga]

Let me just say this before I walk myself out.

The iceberg was a simple visualization to help people understand the potential and companies BRN works with.

It was NOT a Research Paper submitted to a University for it to be 100% referenced.

It even had a fake Elon tweet ''I love Akida'' (Ofcourse Elon didn't tweet this, it was a photoshopped joke, for those who don't know FFS)

Thanks for everything, I have removed the said controversial iceberg, have fun with all your investing ventures.

I hope you all have great success with BRN. This would be one company I would HOLD a part of shares for the rest of my investing career.

Akida Ballista!

Don't overreact @BaconLover. Keep it going mate

 

[miaeffect]

Let me just say this before I walk myself out.

The iceberg was a simple visualization to help people understand the potential and companies BRN works with.

It was NOT a Research Paper submitted to a University for it to be 100% referenced.

It even had a fake Elon tweet ''I love Akida'' (Ofcourse Elon didn't tweet this, it was a photoshopped joke, for those who don't know FFS)

Thanks for everything, I have removed the said controversial iceberg, have fun with all your investing ventures.

I hope you all have great success with BRN. This would be one company I would HOLD a part of shares for the rest of my investing career.

Akida Ballista!

Always love your iceberg and I personally share around to my friend. We laugh but take it seriously.

DO NOT GO ANYWHERE

I WILL GIVE YOU THIS BACON FLOWERS

 

[Violin1]

Let me just say this before I walk myself out.

The iceberg was a simple visualization to help people understand the potential and companies BRN works with.

It was NOT a Research Paper submitted to a University for it to be 100% referenced.

It even had a fake Elon tweet ''I love Akida'' (Ofcourse Elon didn't tweet this, it was a photoshopped joke, for those who don't know FFS)

Thanks for everything, I have removed the said controversial iceberg, have fun with all your investing ventures.

I hope you all have great success with BRN. This would be one company I would HOLD a part of shares for the rest of my investing career.

Akida Ballista!

Hey Bacon - don't leave. Read all the support posts acknowledging what you said the icebergwas inthe first place. Don't let one or two people piss you off and leave. Uiux was a top performer on HC and was the one holding back the barbarians and maybe he's just a little jaded from all that work. Hang around.