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[Diogenese]

This BrainChip presentation got picked up by others too?

TENN: A highly efficient transformer replacement for edge and event processing
M Anthony Lewis, Yan Ru Pei and Olivier Coenen
April 25, 2024

https://flagship.kip.uni-heidelberg.de/jss/HBPm?m=displayPresentation&mI=257&mEID=9439

Good lord!

Learnt about Chebyshev polynomials 50 years ago - didn't think you could actually use them!

 

[Fullmoonfever]

If not posted....McKinsey Eelectronics liking what we're doing highlighting the recent Microchip boards. Nice that one of their preferred partners is Valeo.

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McKinsey Electronics on LinkedIn: #brainchip #akida #mckinseyelectronics

BrainChip recently unveiled its Akida neuromorphic processor on Microchip's embedded platform, using SAMv71 Ultra and SAMA7G54-EK boards. These neuromorphic…

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BrainChip recently unveiled its Akida neuromorphic processor on Microchip's embedded platform, using SAMv71 Ultra and SAMA7G54-EK boards. These neuromorphic computing systems aim to perform parallel and distributed processing, imitating the structure and functionality of the human brain. It functions on an event-based principle, staying inactive until triggered, leading to decreased power consumption. This board highlights Akida's efficiency with a 32-bit microprocessor unit and a TSMC 28nm technology, focusing on always-on machine learning tasks like keyword spotting and visual wake words. This SoC implements 80 NPUs, offering on-chip learning and a complete machine-learning framework. The second-generation Akida platform supports the intelligence chip market, integrating AI accelerators for IoT and high-performance RF applications. It boasts event-based computing, scalability, and customizable AI neural processing capabilities. BrainChip's software development ecosystem supports seamless neural network creation, training and testing. #BrainChip #Akida #McKinseyElectronics

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[cosors]

Apologies if posted already

Geoffrey Eappen on LinkedIn: #ai #machinelearning #neuromorphiccomputing #keywordspotting #brainchip…

🚀 Exciting News from the Intersection of AI and Wireless Communication! 🌐 We are thrilled to announce that a groundbreaking demonstration of keyword spotting…

www.linkedin.com

https://www.linkedin.com/school/snt-lu/

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I love everything with space. But there should also be a little AKD on Earth.
I've seen pretty much all the documentaries about Mars robots. AKD empowered is more than a revolution I think.
They said that the moon travellers back then got further in one day or a few hours than the Mars rover did in three months. There are many decades of development in between.
I love Brainchip. That much is clear.

 

[DingoBorat]

Cars arranged in BRN logo format, chapeau lads ….. on brand every time, consistently!

Whoever they have doing these marketing images, whether it's an individual, or a small team, they are a gun

Then again, it might just be someone punching keywords, into a Generative A.I. program..

Impressive ideas, none the less.

 

[MDhere]

Puh-leeze!
Why did you have to dig out this misleading comparison once again, although I had already fact-checked it months ago? Well, here we go again:

In the “technical comparison” image you re-posted, Akida gets compared to Dynap-SEL, SynSense’s 2018 neuromorphic chip featuring “1k analog low-power spiking neurons and up to 80k configurable synaptic connections, including 8k synapses with integrated spike-based learning rules.”

Low-Power Neuromorphic Chip DYNAP™-SEL | SynSense

Our next-generation neuromorphic chip, Powering Innovation with 1k Analog Neurons and 80k Configurable Synapses, Including Integrated Spike-Based Learning!

www.synsense.ai

You are evidently aware, though, that BMW are experimenting with SynSense’s fully event-driven neuromorphic vision SoC Speck for their smart cockpit occupant monitoring R&D. So why are you not comparing Akida to Speck instead, as you ought to (although I am not sure whether a direct comparison between AKD1000 and a smart vision processing SoC combining a dynamic vision sensor (DVS) and a neuromorphic processor, actually makes sense?)

https://www.synsense.ai/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Speck-application-brochures-EN.pdf

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And to be fair, you should also factor in Speck’s competitive price tag at < 7 $ (presumably USD) that could easily tip the scales in SynSense’s favour, when potential customers who don’t mind doing business with a de facto-Chinese company consider Speck’s technical specifications “good enough“ for their envisaged use cases, even though AKD1000 boasts more than three times as many neurons as Speck (but not more than 1000x as many, as your comparison seems to suggest). They may not see the point in paying more for a product that could be described as “over-engineered” for their narrow use cases.

IMO, you are doing BrainChip no favour by cherry-picking a competitor’s far less capable neuromorphic mixed-signal chip for your apples and oranges-comparison. By doing so, you are totally exaggerating the parameter divide between Akida and the competition’s more advanced neuromorphic offerings, eg in SynSense’s case, the fully digital neuromorphic processor Dynap-CNN:

DYNAP™-CNN: Neuromorphic Processor With 1M Spiking eurons

DYNAP™-CNN is world's first fully scalable, event-driven neuromorphic processor with 1M configurable spiking neurons and direct interface with external DVS.

www.synsense.ai

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What’s the point of unfairly disparaging the competition?
While we shareholders may wish for BrainChip to literally make EVERY sensor smart one day, the commercial reality will be that we will never gain 100% of the global market share. Regardless of any technological superiority.

Settle petal. Bravos contributions are well respected and Im surprised that you are so vocal in such a rude way.
Have a calm Sunday, your contribuons a sometimes long but good! Except when you go nuts on someone. Bit bipolar behaviour im guessing? Or drinking when you wrote that? Or none of the above.
If i may with your permission.. that May i remind you that Brainchip is years ahead of competitors.
Take a chill pill and wind back the attacks on good people please.
Kind regards
MD

 

[Frangipani]

For the sake of completeness, usually one of Frangipanni's fortes, my post in full added:

"Hi Bravo,

Apologies for that German chap.

That project looks to me to be more in the "R" phase of R&D.

"The project aims to develop new devices for implementing the ONN architecture and processing the analog sensor data. It is led by researchers from Technical University in Eindhoven.

It is a university project and universities seem to br enthralled by the close analogy between wetware and analog neurons. They still have to come to grips with the inherent variability of ReRAM/MemRistors.

Not commercial whthin 5 years +. "

Just to expand on that,

https://phastrac.eu/

PHASTRAC is a research project funded by Horizon EU’s research and innovation programme with core subject “Phase Transition Materials for Energy Efficient Edge Computing”. The project with duration of 42 months (1 January 2023 – 30 June 2026) brings together leading European research and academic institutions.

PHASTRAC aims to develop a novel analog-to-information neuromorphic computing paradigm based on oscillatory neural networks (ONNs). We offer a first-of-its-kind and novel analog ONN computing architecture to seamlessly interface with sensors and process their analog data without any analog-to-digital conversion. ONNs are a biologically inspired neuromorphic computing architecture, where neuron oscillatory behavior will be developed by innovative phase change VO2 material coupled with synapses developed by bilayer Mo/HfO2 RRAM devices. PHASTRAC will address the most critical issues, namely 1) novel devices for implementing ONN architecture, 2) novel ONN architecture to allow analog sensor data processing, and 3) processing the data efficiently to take appropriate action. This “sensing-to-action” computing approach based on ONN technology will allow energy efficiency improvements.

TU Eindhoven, Netherlands, leads the consortium of four partners. The project partners are Pazmany Peter Catholic University, Hungary, IBM Research Zurich, and Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW), Germany.

With all those exotic materials, it sounds pretty ickky to manufacture. Does this need a new machine?

The ickkyness goes on ... capacitors and varistors ...

IBM has a patent application for ONN:


US2022004876A1 TRAINING OF OSCILLATORY NEURAL NETWORKS 20200702

[0002] Oscillatory neural networks (ONNs) are artificial neural networks which employ a network of coupled oscillators. The oscillators correspond to neurons of a neural network, and the strength of the coupling between pairs of oscillators emulates the network (synaptic) weights. Such networks can be trained to perform correlation tasks, such as image classification and speech recognition, by processing training samples in the network and adapting the matrix of network weights so that the network “learns”, or memorizes, the particular correlations to be detected. Few hardware implementations have been proposed for ONNs, and these networks typically rely on mathematical pre-training of the weights matrix, e.g. via a Hebbian learning algorithm.

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The network comprises at least one network layer in which a plurality of electronic oscillators, interconnected via programmable coupling elements storing respective network weights, generate oscillatory signals at time delays dependent on the input signal to propagate the input signal from an input to an output of that layer. The network is adapted to provide a network output signal dependent substantially linearly on phase of oscillatory signals in the last layer of the network. The method includes calculating a network error dependent on the output signal and a desired output for the training sample, and calculating updates for respective network weights by backpropagation of the error such that weight-updates for a network layer are dependent on a vector of time delays at the input to that layer and the calculated error at the output of that layer.


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Note the IBM inventors are based in Zurich.

This sounds like spike rate with the added complexity of phase matching, which, added to the inconsistency of capacitors and memRistors sounds messy to implement.

What are you talking about?
Your post is right there, and in full length, too, once you click on “click to expand”.
May I suggest you get yourself a (new) pair of reading glasses?

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-420263

 

[MrNick]

Settle petal. Bravos contributions are well respected and Im surprised that you are so vocal in such a rude way.
Have a calm Sunday, your contribuons a sometimes long but good! Except when you go nuts on someone. Bit bipolar behaviour im guessing? Or drinking when you wrote that? Or none of the above.
If i may with your permission.. that May i remind you that Brainchip is years ahead of competitors.
Take a chill pill and wind back the attacks on good people please.
Kind regards
MD

Spot on.

 

[JoMo68]

What are you talking about?
Your post is right there, and in full length, too, once you click on “click to expand”.
May I suggest you get yourself a (new) pair of reading glasses?

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-420263


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Enough of the condescending attitude!

 

[TECH]

Good morning,

Yesterdays graphics on X feed highlighted 4 sectors which indicate in my opinion exactly where AKD will be deployed in
automobiles, the company pointing us in the right direction.

The graphics have improved tenfold in all our marketing material, top stuff management, keep up the great work behind the scenes, some
of us do appreciate the effort to continually improve as we slowly become more and more professional year on year.

Regards...Tech.

• Real-Time Sensing
• In-Cabin Experience
• ECU Control
• Intuitive HMI

 

[Iseki]

Whom do you have in mind for the new commercialization board?

Hi Dio and DB,

I'd say anyone suitably qualified who has enough trust in the product to produce a ton of small MC's with Akida 2 and can stat giving them away. eg arm M0+ Akida2 - whatever will give us some royalty income. ie we're not giving away licensing, but we can give away cheap chips that rock.

 

[McHale]

Yeah sure, blah blah

The SP has imploded under the current board, from > $1.30 to 30c in the past few years with not an agreement to show for these years of effort by the staff. A new commercialization board will bring relief, rather than disruption. It is how we support our staff and the founders. Faith based investors, where the faith is based on the personalities of the board, are destroying the company's future because they hardly understand our product.

If Stevens hadn't been given the flick our faith based shareholders would be singing his praises, popsting images of him and the lion and tiger.

Just as Stevens was given his marching orders, if there is no announcement or $2Mill revenue, it is now our chance to stand up and do what's right.

We have the science behind us. The science doesn't rely on personalities. Now stand up and be counted.

@Iseki, what does "having the science behind us. The science doesn't rely on personalities", and I will repeat What Does any of that have to do with marketing a new type of technology (which has been unknown until quite recent times) against many much larger global tech companies who also have a global presence and are widely known to the technology industry and manufacturing players.

These large industry players are mostly marketing what amounts to "workarounds" comparitively, and which technically speaking are inferior to what Akida embodies.

Of course this is all IMO, however, if you had a spill of the Board, there is one thing you can be certain of, and that is, that the SP will take an absolute hiding. The impending Qtrly may impact price, but nothing like the impact a spill would trigger. You should do some research on this, because spills overwhelmingly signal "uncertainty" in a business, and the market does not like that word at all; the wider market (despite the previous and ongoing manipulations) has recently supported an over 100% increase of SP.

I hear that you are not happy about the lack of sales or contracts, but by now informed investors should understand that the veil of secrecy that surrounds contracts and implementation of new tech takes years. Personally I find this situation more than a little frustrating because it impairs my ability to analyze or objectivize this investment.

Regardless of the above there is no doubt progress is being made on a broad front Renesas and Mega Chips will not have been sleeping on their investment, and I believe that our connections with Tata will pay big dividends. I still feel impatient about progress I have had a lot of money sitting in BRN for a long time, I am not a fan of the amount of money we are paying our executive, but I also know that the only way forward to profit for BRN is with highly experienced, connected and qualified people. So I would like to see results sooner, but I know that the only reason we have people like Sean, Antonio, Rob, Nandan, Tony and others on board is because 1/ they actually see great potential here.... but also 2/ if BRN can't pay the kind of money they can get in the US, without adding incentives or free shares, then these kind of people wouldn't be working at BRN.

And if you wanted to replace them, the same situation would apply with regard to remuneration or incentives for any new execs you want to bring in, by US standards our executive are paid below par on the research I have done (I posted about this in one of my recent occasional contributions). So we are all in a situation of having to trust who we have, and while I want the SP to go higher asap I can still see a lot of progress, which I figure will highly likely make BRN a profitable investment. Then there is also the small matter of: I would "rather work with the devil I know, than the devil I don't know".

On another front the thing that concerns me more than anything else about my investment here (and I have said this before) is the overall health of global markets, not just the stock markets, the currency markets have considerably more capitalization than the equities, but the market that concerns me the most is the global Bond markets, particularly Gov't Bonds. My view is that interest rates will not be going down any time soon, there will be recession, but I don't see stock markets crashing; I believe stock markets and other hard assets will appreciate as investment faith in Gov't Bonds evaporates, I think the West is in trouble (most unfortunately) and the large funds and investors will flee Gov't Bonds because Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. In a rare comment by a Fed Reserve Governor on US Gov't fiscal policy, Jerome Powell recently stated that US Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. Gov't Bond markets are the most highly capitalized investment pool on earth and have huge impact on global economy. DYOR

I just don't want things to get too crazy before this investment can mature. On the other hand I believe the stock market will be ok for sometime yet (no crash) and that might give the needed for BRN to fly.

 

[Food4 thought]

What does this week have install for us ?
Will there be an IP signing?
A few new companies joining us ?
Will the 4c come out with an amazing bottom line turnover?

 

[Smoothsailing]

What does this week have install for us ?
Will there be an IP signing?
A few new companies joining us ?
Will the 4c come out with an amazing bottom line turnover?

Yes
Yes
Yes
anyway.
We should be seeing positive results

 

[wilzy123]

Hi Dio and DB,

I'd say anyone suitably qualified who has enough trust in the product to produce a ton of small MC's with Akida 2 and can stat giving them away. eg arm M0+ Akida2 - whatever will give us some royalty income. ie we're not giving away licensing, but we can give away cheap chips that rock.

Hi blah blah blah... nobody believes you. Even average peanuts see through your lies. Sorry Lazy Gacy. I just don't think its working out for you.

 

[DingoBorat]

Hi Dio and DB,

I'd say anyone suitably qualified who has enough trust in the product to produce a ton of small MC's with Akida 2 and can stat giving them away. eg arm M0+ Akida2 - whatever will give us some royalty income. ie we're not giving away licensing, but we can give away cheap chips that rock.

You do realise, giving away chips that cost a lot to make and receiving a small royalty in return, is a heavily loss making business venture, don't you? ..

 

[Wags]

@Iseki, what does "having the science behind us. The science doesn't rely on personalities", and I will repeat What Does any of that have to do with marketing a new type of technology (which has been unknown until quite recent times) against many much larger global tech companies who also have a global presence and are widely known to the technology industry and manufacturing players.

These large industry players are mostly marketing what amounts to "workarounds" comparitively, and which technically speaking are inferior to what Akida embodies.

Of course this is all IMO, however, if you had a spill of the Board, there is one thing you can be certain of, and that is, that the SP will take an absolute hiding. The impending Qtrly may impact price, but nothing like the impact a spill would trigger. You should do some research on this, because spills overwhelmingly signal "uncertainty" in a business, and the market does not like that word at all; the wider market (despite the previous and ongoing manipulations) has recently supported an over 100% increase of SP.

I hear that you are not happy about the lack of sales or contracts, but by now informed investors should understand that the veil of secrecy that surrounds contracts and implementation of new tech takes years. Personally I find this situation more than a little frustrating because it impairs my ability to analyze or objectivize this investment.

Regardless of the above there is no doubt progress is being made on a broad front Renesas and Mega Chips will not have been sleeping on their investment, and I believe that our connections with Tata will pay big dividends. I still feel impatient about progress I have had a lot of money sitting in BRN for a long time, I am not a fan of the amount of money we are paying our executive, but I also know that the only way forward to profit for BRN is with highly experienced, connected and qualified people. So I would like to see results sooner, but I know that the only reason we have people like Sean, Antonio, Rob, Nandan, Tony and others on board is because 1/ they actually see great potential here.... but also 2/ if BRN can't pay the kind of money they can get in the US, without adding incentives or free shares, then these kind of people wouldn't be working at BRN.

And if you wanted to replace them, the same situation would apply with regard to remuneration or incentives for any new execs you want to bring in, by US standards our executive are paid below par on the research I have done (I posted about this in one of my recent occasional contributions). So we are all in a situation of having to trust who we have, and while I want the SP to go higher asap I can still see a lot of progress, which I figure will highly likely make BRN a profitable investment. Then there is also the small matter of: I would "rather work with the devil I know, than the devil I don't know".

On another front the thing that concerns me more than anything else about my investment here (and I have said this before) is the overall health of global markets, not just the stock markets, the currency markets have considerably more capitalization than the equities, but the market that concerns me the most is the global Bond markets, particularly Gov't Bonds. My view is that interest rates will not be going down any time soon, there will be recession, but I don't see stock markets crashing; I believe stock markets and other hard assets will appreciate as investment faith in Gov't Bonds evaporates, I think the West is in trouble (most unfortunately) and the large funds and investors will flee Gov't Bonds because Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. In a rare comment by a Fed Reserve Governor on US Gov't fiscal policy, Jerome Powell recently stated that US Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. Gov't Bond markets are the most highly capitalized investment pool on earth and have huge impact on global economy. DYOR

I just don't want things to get too crazy before this investment can mature. On the other hand I believe the stock market will be ok for sometime yet (no crash) and that might give the needed for BRN to fly.

Well said @McHale

 

[rgupta]

@Iseki, what does "having the science behind us. The science doesn't rely on personalities", and I will repeat What Does any of that have to do with marketing a new type of technology (which has been unknown until quite recent times) against many much larger global tech companies who also have a global presence and are widely known to the technology industry and manufacturing players.

These large industry players are mostly marketing what amounts to "workarounds" comparitively, and which technically speaking are inferior to what Akida embodies.

Of course this is all IMO, however, if you had a spill of the Board, there is one thing you can be certain of, and that is, that the SP will take an absolute hiding. The impending Qtrly may impact price, but nothing like the impact a spill would trigger. You should do some research on this, because spills overwhelmingly signal "uncertainty" in a business, and the market does not like that word at all; the wider market (despite the previous and ongoing manipulations) has recently supported an over 100% increase of SP.

I hear that you are not happy about the lack of sales or contracts, but by now informed investors should understand that the veil of secrecy that surrounds contracts and implementation of new tech takes years. Personally I find this situation more than a little frustrating because it impairs my ability to analyze or objectivize this investment.

Regardless of the above there is no doubt progress is being made on a broad front Renesas and Mega Chips will not have been sleeping on their investment, and I believe that our connections with Tata will pay big dividends. I still feel impatient about progress I have had a lot of money sitting in BRN for a long time, I am not a fan of the amount of money we are paying our executive, but I also know that the only way forward to profit for BRN is with highly experienced, connected and qualified people. So I would like to see results sooner, but I know that the only reason we have people like Sean, Antonio, Rob, Nandan, Tony and others on board is because 1/ they actually see great potential here.... but also 2/ if BRN can't pay the kind of money they can get in the US, without adding incentives or free shares, then these kind of people wouldn't be working at BRN.

And if you wanted to replace them, the same situation would apply with regard to remuneration or incentives for any new execs you want to bring in, by US standards our executive are paid below par on the research I have done (I posted about this in one of my recent occasional contributions). So we are all in a situation of having to trust who we have, and while I want the SP to go higher asap I can still see a lot of progress, which I figure will highly likely make BRN a profitable investment. Then there is also the small matter of: I would "rather work with the devil I know, than the devil I don't know".

On another front the thing that concerns me more than anything else about my investment here (and I have said this before) is the overall health of global markets, not just the stock markets, the currency markets have considerably more capitalization than the equities, but the market that concerns me the most is the global Bond markets, particularly Gov't Bonds. My view is that interest rates will not be going down any time soon, there will be recession, but I don't see stock markets crashing; I believe stock markets and other hard assets will appreciate as investment faith in Gov't Bonds evaporates, I think the West is in trouble (most unfortunately) and the large funds and investors will flee Gov't Bonds because Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. In a rare comment by a Fed Reserve Governor on US Gov't fiscal policy, Jerome Powell recently stated that US Gov't debt levels are unsustainable. Gov't Bond markets are the most highly capitalized investment pool on earth and have huge impact on global economy. DYOR

I just don't want things to get too crazy before this investment can mature. On the other hand I believe the stock market will be ok for sometime yet (no crash) and that might give the needed for BRN to fly.

I really wants remuneration report to pass through that will make a vote on spill null and void.
But on the other hand board should have more responsibility than share holders and instead of keeping the fingers crossed up to the last moment, board has to be proactive and try to eliminate the chances as much as possible. And on this end I assume brainchip board is not working proactively.
Dyor

 

[Cyw]

I really wants remuneration report to pass through that will make a vote on spill null and void.
But on the other hand board should have more responsibility than share holders and instead of keeping the fingers crossed up to the last moment, board has to be proactive and try to eliminate the chances as much as possible. And on this end I assume brainchip board is not working proactively.
Dyor

It is not that the board does not work proactively, it is just nobody wants to buy our products; hopefully there is a 'yet' in there.

 

[7für7]

I really wants remuneration report to pass through that will make a vote on spill null and void.
But on the other hand board should have more responsibility than share holders and instead of keeping the fingers crossed up to the last moment, board has to be proactive and try to eliminate the chances as much as possible. And on this end I assume brainchip board is not working proactively.
Dyor

I agree on that point when you mentioned “DYOR” the rest makes no sense ! But I’m just a small investor with no insider knowledge. So all I can do is trust. IMO

 

[JDelekto]

It is not that the board does not work proactively, it is just nobody wants to buy our products; hopefully there is a 'yet' in there.

I would probably not say that nobody wants to buy BrainChip's products, but instead, say that the barrier to adoption will be high. It's a new technology that has to go through the stages of R&D, and for IP integration, there is a significant cost both monetarily and in time involved with that. Anyone who decides to incorporate Akida will be one with the power to make those decisions for their company and have some familiarity with the technology and a vision of how it will be used.

We have already seen a couple of IP deals, and products are now emerging using the technology. I will be monitoring any progress reported by the ANT61 project regarding their use of Akida in their autonomous robot research. Real-world successes involving Akida will be the catalyst for further adoption, in my opinion.

I will also watch for the reviews on any VVDN Edge boxes and Unigen CupCake servers running on Akida once they start shipping. I think that real-world benchmarks and comparisons to competing products are going to be a much better way to gauge how much interest there is in BrainChip's technology.