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HopalongPetrovski

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... but now that Mercedes has shattered the zone of silence, I think that once other customers are near production, they will want to take advantage of Akida as a selling point.

"Coming soon, Tandoorator, the AI refrigerator that mixes your biryani while you munch chappati- AKIDA INSIDE!"
 
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Latest Accenture Report came out towards the end of Nov.

Unleashing the full potential of AI


Not a bad read for a general overview on their assessment of AI and Semi Industry.

Quite liked this image they used which appears borrowed from a 2015 paper.




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A table I also found interesting was the costs.

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On their web I found a small research section where they did their own POC voice control in 2021:

NEUROMORPHIC COMPUTING: ENERGY-EFFICIENT SMART CARS WITH ADVANCED VOICE CONTROL

Was based on Intel but hey, I don't mind if they blaze away generating industry interest for us to swoop in as the best available for immediate uptake :)


Speaker 1: Tim Shea, a research scientist at
Accenture Labs, has been working with an
automotive client on prototyping the use of
neuromorphic computing to help people interact
with smart vehicles.

Speaker 2: Consumer demand for AI driven
experiences is increasing rapidly, especially in
the automotive industry. Customers expect
responsive voice, gesture, and contextual
intelligence from their vehicles. But current AI
hardware is too power hungry, which can impact
vehicle performance and limit the possible
applications. Smart vehicles need more efficient
edge AI devices to meet the demand.

Using edge AI devices to compliment cloud
based AI could also increase responsiveness
and improve reliability when connectivity is poor.

So we've built a proof of concept system with
one of our major automotive partners to
demonstrate that neuromorphic computing can
make cars smarter without draining the
batteries. We're using Intel's Kapoho Bay to
recognize voice commands that an owner would
give to their vehicle. The Kapoho Bay is a
portable and extremely efficient neuromorphic
research device for AI at the edge.

We're comparing that proof of concept system
against a standard approach using a GPU. To
build the system, we trained spiking neural
networks to differentiate between command
phrases. Then we ran the trains networks on
the Kapoho Bay. We connected the Kapoho
Bay to a microphone and a controller similar to
the electronic control units that operate various
functions of a smart vehicle.

We're targeting commands that reflect features
that can be accessed from outside a smart
vehicle, such as park here, or unlock passenger
door. These functions also need to be energy
efficient, so the vehicle can remain responsive
even when parked for long stretches of time.

As a first step, we trained the system to
recognize simple commands, such as lights on
and lights off, open door, close door, or start
engine. Using a combination of open source
voice recordings and a smaller sample of
specific commands, we can approximate the
kinds of voice processing needed for smart
vehicles. We tested this approach by comparing
our train spiking neural networks running on
Intel's neuromorphic research cloud against a
convolutional neural network, running on a
GPU.

Both systems achieved acceptable accuracy
recognizing our voice commands, but we found
that the neuromorphic system was up to a
thousand times more efficient than the standard
AI system with a GPU. This is extremely
impressive and it's consistent with the results
from other labs, as Intel will show further in their
session on benchmarking the Intel OAE.

The neuromorphic system also responded up to
200 milliseconds faster than the GPU. This
dramatic improvement in energy efficiency for
our task comes from the fact that computation
in Loihi is extremely sparse. While the GPU
performs billions of computations per second,
every second, the neuromorphic chip only
processes changes in the audio signal and
neuron cores inside low Loihi communicate
efficiently with spikes.

This project demonstrates that neuromorphic
systems can prove more efficient and more
responsive than conventional solutions for AI in
smart vehicles. This research is helping our
partners in the automotive industry understand
how Intel's neuromorphic systems might impact
their next-generation products. And it helps us
develop a roadmap for future neuromorphic
applications.

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Dhm

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Well the newest podcast with Sally was certainly interesting. To me, it seems like she is quite hesitant to acknowledge the technological achievement of Akida as little more than a ‘niche’ product.

Not phased one little bit about a journalists opinion but Sally came across as quite dismissive. This is to be expected however and shows the challenge Brainchip’s team faces in selling our technology to customers. We’ll get there but it seems patience is going to be required for quite a while yet.
I agree that this podcast wasn’t quite as uplifting as previous. Sally’s job is to report factually on many companies and the products they are marketing. She fired off quite a list of innovative categories and products in her journalistic universe; and ours, whilst novel and ground breaking, has no direct connection to her, other than to report about, unlike the Arm and Prophesee podcasts, which demonstrated strong disruption.
 
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Kachoo

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Man these shorts are trying hard even hitting up linkdn with rubish
 
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If we are going a bit of Peter Sellers, maybe "The mouse that roared" would be a good fit for BRN.

We will move up the food chain next year.
 
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Slade

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The Renesas tap out news from the other day is great. It’s given me the goal of holding tight for the next 6 to 12 months. Who knows what other great news we will get in the meantime. I’m not too worried, for me, I’m gonna wait to see what happens when Renesas release the new Akida powered chips to their customers.
 
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The Renesas tap out news from the other day is great. It’s given me the goal of holding tight for the next 6 to 12 months. Who knows what other great news we will get in the meantime. I’m not too worried, for me, I’m gonna wait to see what happens when Renesas release the new Akida powered chips to their customers.
I agree. It’s probably the best news we have had all year ( unless of forgotten something), hopefully megachips are not to far behind them. I’m still thinking we won’t see any real revenue until mid to late next year
 
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I agree that this podcast wasn’t quite as uplifting as previous. Sally’s job is to report factually on many companies and the products they are marketing. She fired off quite a list of innovative categories and products in her journalistic universe; and ours, whilst novel and ground breaking, has no direct connection to her, other than to report about, unlike the Arm and Prophesee podcasts, which demonstrated strong disruption.
If you were a first time listener to Brainchip's podcasts, and this is the first one you tuned into, I don't think you would walk away with the most positive impression of Brainchip. As these podcasts are one of the few times we hear from the company per year (with tiny snippets of progression generally mentioned), I think we could have done without this one. I just don't see the benefit.

I mentioned Sally's use of the word 'niche' in my previous post. Rob Telson played it off well but I could tell he shares my sentiment that niche is a little condescending - note when he said he prefers the term specialty technology. Trivial? Yes. But that was the gist of a lot of the podcast for me though - quasi downplaying our potential to be a game changer.
 
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Dhm

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The Renesas tap out news from the other day is great. It’s given me the goal of holding tight for the next 6 to 12 months. Who knows what other great news we will get in the meantime. I’m not too worried, for me, I’m gonna wait to see what happens when Renesas release the new Akida powered chips to their customers.
What we need is revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue

Then we will be $10 per share and going skyward!!
 
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What we need is revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue revenue

Then we will be $10 per share and going skyward!!
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Slade

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In 9 month time Akida babies will be popping up all over the place.
 
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If you were a first time listener to Brainchip's podcasts, and this is the first one you tuned into, I don't think you would walk away with the most positive impression of Brainchip. As these podcasts are one of the few times we hear from the company per year (with tiny snippets of progression generally mentioned), I think we could have done without this one. I just don't see the benefit.

I mentioned Sally's use of the word 'niche' in my previous post. Rob Telson played it off well but I could tell he shares my sentiment that niche is a little condescending - note when he said he prefers the term specialty technology. Trivial? Yes. But that was the gist of a lot of the podcast for me though - quasi downplaying our potential to be a game changer.
I will have to listen to it again,as my first impression/lasting take away so far was it seemed to me that she was almost subtely thumbing her nose at Brainchip/Rob (not actually sure what triggered this feeling/impression?) and only really there to plug ee times.?? Anyhow not to worry good things come to those who can wait.
Maybe Anastasi wiuld have been a better fit😁
 
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My money riding the BRN carousel lol

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I will have to listen to it again,as my first impression/lasting take away so far was it seemed to me that she was almost subtely thumbing her nose at Brainchip/Rob (not actually sure what triggered this feeling/impression?) and only really there to plug ee times.?? Anyhow not to worry good things come to those who can wait.
My final thought on the podcast became clear when she was given the opportunity to promote the EE Times conference and then it became clear to me as her effect stood in stark contrast to her articles when she has written about Brainchip.

What she was doing in a rather clumsy fashion was playing to the sensitivities of the conference participants by appearing to be independent of Brainchip.

She and EE Times are like all organisers of these conferences chasing advertising and sponsorship dollars.

I think Rob Telson was aware of what she was doing and this is why he fed us the nugget about Transformers and what his gut was telling him. Rob Telson knows AKIDA 2.0 with Transformers and LSTM is close to being revealed and he wanted to give a heads up to his loyal listeners and shareholders.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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My final thought on the podcast became clear when she was given the opportunity to promote the EE Times conference and then it became clear to me as her effect stood in stark contrast to her articles when she has written about Brainchip.

What she was doing in a rather clumsy fashion was playing to the sensitivities of the conference participants by appearing to be independent of Brainchip.

She and EE Times are like all organisers of these conferences chasing advertising and sponsorship dollars.

I think Rob Telson was aware of what she was doing and this is why he fed us the nugget about Transformers and what his gut was telling him. Rob Telson knows AKIDA 2.0 with Transformers and LSTM is close to being revealed and he wanted to give a heads up to his loyal listeners and shareholders.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
Aha ok that makes sense cheers FF
 
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For those who do not know what Kaphoo Bay from Intel was it was a USB stick made up of one or two 14nm Loihi 1 chips. Loihi 2 is 7nm and still runs at 1.5 to 3 watts.


From my reading early on while Kaphoo Bay could be just one Loihi 1 chip it was generally 2 Loihi 1 chips.

If you want to sit down and do all the calculations using the chart in @Fullmoonfever ’s above post you will see the amazing price and power advantage one first generation Commercial AKD1000 or AKIDA 1.0 chip has over the Loihi 1 and Loihi 2 research chips.

In the above link it explains that the term RESEARCH CHIP is used to convey to the user that performance and reliability cannot be guaranteed.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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My final thought on the podcast became clear when she was given the opportunity to promote the EE Times conference and then it became clear to me as her effect stood in stark contrast to her articles when she has written about Brainchip.

What she was doing in a rather clumsy fashion was playing to the sensitivities of the conference participants by appearing to be independent of Brainchip.

She and EE Times are like all organisers of these conferences chasing advertising and sponsorship dollars.

I think Rob Telson was aware of what she was doing and this is why he fed us the nugget about Transformers and what his gut was telling him. Rob Telson knows AKIDA 2.0 with Transformers and LSTM is close to being revealed and he wanted to give a heads up to his loyal listeners and shareholders.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
Bro what about the decepticons?
 
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