AVZ Discussion 2022

[marksmann007]

Zijin will just sit inside AVZ's booth and when challenged will claim that they paid for 15% of it.

Edit. You beat me to the punchline there Nbaz

At least there’d be plenty of snacks..

 

[CHB]

We do need the ML announced tomorrow though.

ML not being announced validates the questions around ownership and should realistically add some concern to shareholders.

If it's no big deal then they could issue it, given that we have already received ministerial decree many weeks ago.

 

[Roller62]

We do need the ML announced tomorrow though.

ML not being announced validates the questions around ownership and should realistically add some concern to shareholders.

If it's no big deal then they could issue it, given that we have already received ministerial decree many weeks ago.

The ML has nothing to do with ownership.

 

[Bray]

 

[CHB]

The ML has nothing to do with ownership.

Great, then let's get it issued tomorrow

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

 

[Samus]

The ML has nothing to do with ownership.

Maybe but perhaps they need to know the ownership structure before the CAMI paperwork can be finalised?
What else is the hold up?
At that recent conference of the NGO's the spokesman for CAMI was referring to the Dathcom shareholder registry.

 

[Roller62]

Great, then let's get it issued tomorrow

I doubt it will be issued. However the problem with the ML is not the % ownership. There are multiple problems at the moment. An announcement today or tomorrow should clarify things.

 

[BEISHA]

oh great the arseclown is back just before the 1st, who would of thought, and yeah as I've brought up here many times, tantalex have tailings rights in the area, but now Franck says that's sold too, and it's not on the portal, even though I've read about 10 articles in the last few months stating tantalex/Klaus have the rights, either way now it's another pls explain..."permit expired and its on top of our land that we are paying surface rights for and now we're told its sold as well"....seriously wtf is going here lol, and now also AJN/Klaus are in the area and so to is one of Zijin's new PR's while they try to rape our 15% and Cong coming in from the rear too. Cong, Zijin and Klaus think that they own whatever the fuk they want to own and they clearly have connections in most departments that matter.

ffs every single government departement in the DRC could not be more of a disorganised pack of useless shit talkers if they tried, don't get me wrong it's clear Felix and a few others are trying to fix 'some' things but look what they're up against, it's apparent to me that Felix's way of helping is to sell the DRC to foreign investors beyond China and just hope they muscle out the Chinese and justice prevails, but instead all he's creating is a shitstorm or legal proceedings that thus far have been judged by a corrupt court system and ruled against the foreign investors he's tried to bring in, unfortunately it's not working but I give full credit to Felix and Co. for being better than all their opposition.

Felix you need to stop selling to the world and just concentrate on cleaning up the corruption, clearly easier said than done. But come on, 'Oh battery hub, let's have another 20 conferences and instigate talks with another 20 countries and 20 foreign companies who will get raped in the DRC too because the entire system is in support of Chinese brown paper bags. START ISSUING SOME PRESIDENTIAL DECREES, or watch your country and your presidency go down the dunny.

Nige $2 takeover, sell it off mate, let the seagulls devour themselves over there, fuk me. Seriously not joking, if we stay suspended after the 1st, then unless a resolution is actually imminent(not AVZ imminent) then sell it off. I'll even take $1.70-$1.80 and sit back and watch the shitshow unfold with my money in my pocket. Is it worth more? hell yes, but who's gonna sort this shit out in a few weeks??? hope I'm wrong, but hmmmm

Your frustration / bemusement, call it what you will, is shared by all.

If Felix cant back up his talk of eradicating corruption, especially with the most important project of them all, if Zijin intention to hold up progress via ICC courts ( which takes forever to get a decision ), then lets talk T/O and get the fuck out.

I have plenty of other stocks in my portfolio in which I can make a fortune, who would welcome the extra cash........plenty of ways to skin a cat............................ right Felix ?

imo

 

[Thaz]

What most people don't realise about the silence during a court/legal case - is that the public automatically assume that the defendants (or perpetrators) are guilty by non-admission.

Generally, it is highly recommended that those involved in a legal/court case do not announce anything publicly; not until the proceedings are judgements are final.

Obviously - i'm unsure as to where things are up to for AVZ; but I personally am not concerned about the lack of foundation of the supposed acquisition of shares from Zijin.

IF it takes more time to kick Zijin out - i'm more than happy for that. I don't want Zijin involved a single %.

 

[Thehoneyguy]

Your frustration / bemusement, call it what you will, is shared by all.

If Felix cant back up his talk of eradicating corruption, especially with the most important project of them all, if Zijin intention to hold up progress via ICC courts ( which takes forever to get a decision ), then lets talk T/O and get the fuck out.

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I have plenty of other stocks in my portfolio in which I can make a fortune, who would welcome the extra cash........plenty of ways to skin a cat............................ right Felix ?

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imo

Hey Beisha would you be so kind to point me in the right direction of where you started learning charting and approximately how long it took you to get to your abilities currently ?

 

[CeckRaiseFold]

yep im over every single conference, roadshow, smack talk bs until this is sorted out, stop the bs parade, stop spending money on bs when you don't even know how much we own, concentrate solely on all this crazyness, and work out a way to prevent it going forward, or sell the lot to the highest bidder and run like fuk.

Just think while all these conferences, roadshows, tossers in houses of excellencies, fluffy announcements and the amount of money the gov and AVZ would have spent on travelling and talking shit up, for 6-12 months now in the background, we've had:

-Dathomir fighting us for 5-15% and draggin us to courts
-Cominiere selling off 15% to Zijin dirt cheap and taking bribes for snacks, and apparently we didnt counter offer in time WTAF...then AVZ attempting to fight them in local DRC courts
-Nige on the board with bloody AJN/Klaus who 100% has a jealous vendetta against AVZ after selling out, and now AJN/Klaus doing backdoor deals to get other land in the area, and now Nige quitting at AJN
-Add to that Klaus also now is at the helm of Tantalex who has tailings ON OUR LAND we'll be paying surface rights for.....but hang on ignore the portal and the 100 articles stating this as fact because apparently that's been sold now too, but don't look at the portal because that still says Minicom own the tailings...yes the same mob who Klaus and Cong got Kabila to kick out to get AVZ the land in the first place
-The portal just decreasing our PE after being told ML is for entire area,,,,without a word said on this either

Now baring in mind all of the above along with a whole host of other fraud/shenanigans(for crying out loud just two weeks ago I saw Felix signing some deal with Gertler, yes fucking Gertler who even the US had sanctions against for his fraud in the DRC, and has ties to the scum of the earth Mossad/Israeli intelligence) all this has been going on for the last 6-12months while management just relies on a government who has limited power to stop the corruption, so who on earth really thinks we are getting the news clarifying this has been cleared up in our favour tomorrow? or even in the next month or two? of course I hope we do and I still have some hope we'll be ok in time, but come on guys let's be realistic, what are the chances this is all cleared up in the next few months? my gut feel is 6-12months and in the mean time felix and Co. will remain silent and instead run around the world selling pipe dreams. Just like they have for the last year.

Right now(if not starting tomorrow) I'd assume management will be getting some pretty serious please explains from the ASX about how they hell they thought getting dragged into court rooms multiple times was not worthy of mentioning to the market, and I'd also assume management will say here look here's our share certificate showing 75% that has not been annulled so wth do you want us to do. ASX will then say hmmm, ok yep good 'ol Africa this is out of everyones control, good luck and good luck appeasing your shareholder who've you've kept in the dark

ffs please explain Nige, cos you're buried real deep right now my man, some may say 'ballsdeep'...so where's our bloody snaaaaaaaacks

Sounds like trolls and downrampers have cracked @ohreally let's wait to hear from AVZ first before cutting out wrists. Remember, unless AVZ are totally kicked out of this mine we're sitting on an extremely profitable project anywhere between 36-75% ownership.

 

[Xerof]

I doubt it will be issued. However the problem with the ML is not the % ownership. There are multiple problems at the moment. An announcement today or tomorrow should clarify things.

So, will they leave the 'finalisation of ML and Exploration licenses' until last? i.e. would you think they will stay in suspension with a view to resolving the multiple other issues, beforehand?

 

[Xerof]

Sorry, I edited that last post

 

[LX600]

Anyone read the 4th of May announcement? What do you think the following clarification mean?

'the Tribunal Decision is: • in respect of proceedings that have been pursued vexatiously and without foundation or merit, and to which neither AVZ nor AVZI is a party; '

 

[John25]

There's just too much there mate...almost everyday for the last couple of months another new negative development that alludes to being treated like a mushroom investor(kept in the dark and fed bullshit, well fed the positive only as a planet of negative amasses in the background)

In saying everything I've said, I still believe everything Nige has said, I still have faith in Nige and AVZ, but I just don't have faith in the DRC itself, or the DRC legal system or any single department to set this right and then keep it 'right' for that matter, it's clear there's many in positions of power who are totally and utterly corrupt, then add a whole heap of ignorance and what seems to be unjustified national pride/ego in those departments as well.....Can we come out all good, sure, but what's the chances of that happening? 15-36%???

 

[Bin59]

Anyone read the 4th of May announcement? What do you think the following clarification mean?

'the Tribunal Decision is: • in respect of proceedings that have been pursued vexatiously and without foundation or merit, and to which neither AVZ nor AVZI is a party; '

'the Tribunal Decision is: • in respect of proceedings that have been pursued vexatiously and without foundation or merit, and to which neither AVZ nor AVZI is a party;

I think that’s the reason that AVZ haven’t disclosed this previously in an announcement

 

[CHB]

I doubt it will be issued. However the problem with the ML is not the % ownership. There are multiple problems at the moment. An announcement today or tomorrow should clarify things.

If that's true then that's also not a good look given the time it has taken to get to ministerial decree.

Oh well

 

[Winenut]

I have nothing useful to add

The situation in the space of a few weeks has turned into an absolute shit show

Fuck the lot of them

I'll review my investment once we get an official announcement

And I can guarantee I will never again place any of my funds anywhere that even smells like sovereign risk...

 

[Samus]

I have nothing useful to add

The situation in the space of a few weeks has turned into an absolute shit show

Fuck the lot of them

I'll review my investment once we get an official announcement

And I can guarantee I will never again place any of my funds anywhere that even smells like sovereign risk...

Just about spells out what this rampant speculation and the silence of management after saying CAMI approval in a few days is causing.
I sure hope we do see something today/tomorrow when this is the way the better informed shareholders are feeling.