AVZ Discussion 2022

[The Fox]

Anyone remember last week when at least 20 of you morally bankrupted bastards were considering jumping into bed with zijin for a good rogering at the first sign of trouble



Sorry, had to! lol

Things looking up

Actually those posts, well certainly mine were looking at worst case scenario and clearly stated the preferred option was for Felix and friends to step in a chop heads off.

This was my way of saying (and reconciling what had happened) that all is not lost, and there is still a great opportunity for shareholders should AVZ have to acknowledge Z and in particularly for the avoidance of lengthy court cases. I sincerely hope the Inspector General's report is actioned by Felix and friends quickly resolving the situation and annulling illegal transactions and punishment for the parties concerned, thus saving AVZ having to fight these battles on its own.

At least the issues raised for AVZ should be easier to act on then other reports of illegal actions uncovered by the Inspector General concerning Gécamines, that shit is still going, yet those illegal actions span many years so no quick fix. https://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20211...ations-sur-un-casse-à-530-millions-de-dollars

Hence I hope the Inspector General's report is complete with recommendations, and Felix and friends act on these recommendations immediately. Fingers crossed someone will publish a full copy of the report online soon, or this report is an addendum to one of AVZ's announcements in the near future

There's heaps of light at the end of the tunnel now for AVZ, and nothing would please me more to come out the other side of the tunnel with these matters being finalised with the assistance of DRC Gov etc. It would be unfortunate to come out of suspension with any pending legal action or even a sniff of uncertainly for the future (on all issues related to Z and Dathomir) as others have said, I would rather see AVZ in suspension until only blue skies above and not a dark cloud in sight !!

Cheers The Fox

 

[Scoota30]

This is the original tweet before it was deleted.

This account is @minminesCD. Created in January of this year. I believe the official one is @MinMinesDRC which was created in September? I am royally confused as to what's going on here. Has someone been trying to duplicate accounts since September in anticipation for when this shit storm begun?

 

[JAG]

I do know the Ministers LinkedIn account is not fake and have been following her for some time so I sent a message hopefully get a reply.

Oh and I did start with "Dear Madam Minister"....just cant see it in the message

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[Scoota30]

This is the original tweet before it was deleted.

This account is @minminesCD. Created in January of this year. I believe the official one is @MinMinesDRC which was created in September? I am royally confused as to what's going on here. Has someone been trying to duplicate accounts since September in anticipation for when this shit storm begun?

Sorry, original tweet added here

 

[Scoota30]

alright this gets more confusing by the minute....you said that's the original account and youre showing that original account is saying 'yes those two accounts belong to the minister', so you are now ok with this all coming from the minister?

I am currently on my phone and there's too many screenshots on my phone from the last 24 hours, my bad.
As Jens explains in his last post, these 2 accounts are duplicates/fakes.
I would be very wary about anything at all that is posted on twitter, and we should all probably do what DEBOSS has been doing this whole time and sitting back with his feet up waiting for the AVZ official announcement on Friday.
Going to be a veryyyy long week.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

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I’m not sure if it’s the same for twitter but Facebook and Instagram at least have a little blue tick next to names if it is an official/verified account. The whole point of the blue tick is so you know it’s not a fake, neither of those accounts have one. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are fake just means they aren’t verified

 

[Deleted member 1612]

I am currently on my phone and there's too many screenshots on my phone from the last 24 hours, my bad.
As Jens explains in his last post, these 2 accounts are duplicates/fakes.
I would be very wary about anything at all that is posted on twitter, and we should all probably do what DEBOSS has been doing this whole time and sitting back with his feet up waiting for the AVZ official announcement on Friday.
Going to be a veryyyy long week.

Sounds wise!! Hard to stop looking though

 

[Helios]

Just posted on HC. Hope it makes sense. A little hard to convey than usual.

 

[Scoota30]

So we have Joe and Franck and the official Ministry of mines accounts all saying they are real accounts, what do we have apart from one guy telling Jag theyre fake? just trying to get to the bottom of this, or is every single account fake, Franck, Joe and Ministry of mines, and the two Antoinette accounts...bloody confusing lol

It would be nice if the official ones had blue ticks as @discodanz says. But take a look at the 4 accounts below. To me, the 2 that are created after are not legitimate and actually follow more people than what follows them. The account that said the minister has 2 accounts was the @minminesCD. Also if you look at the official minister of mines website they have tweets on the side and it is showing the @minminesDRC.
IMO someone/a group are playing silly buggers and to have created these duplicates months ago seem to have put some planning and thought into it. Just be VERY careful believing anything on Twitter at the moment. Perhaps AVZ's official silence thus far actually speaks louder than all of these tweets.

I’m not sure if it’s the same for twitter but Facebook and Instagram at least have a little blue tick next to names if it is an official/verified account. The whole point of the blue tick is so you know it’s not a fake, neither of those accounts have one. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are fake just means they aren’t verified

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Very interesting, indeed. To what end are these accounts used for?

"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the light, the future is.” – Yoda

“Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will.” – Yoda

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Who is Frank Fwamba ?

Whats the connection ?

I believe he is a local Congo Journalist, so figured he may know something about the profiles

 

[solo]

I believe he is a local Congo Journalist, so figured he may know something about the profiles

This guy is very close to the subject and he definitely knows what he is talking about:

https://copperbeltkatangamining.com/drc-ventora-agreement-what-does-dan-gertler-win-franck-fwamba-mining-activist/

To have support of this guy is a good thing.

 

[Retrobyte]

More positive vibes from our Bro Joe

I think manufacturing EVs in DRC is a stretch, but the rest is good stuff

 

[Retrobyte]

Aren't they the fake accounts?

 

[Retrobyte]

Well throwing it out there and tagging them all as well as the Franck, Joe and The General Inspectorate of Finance....see if I get any bites...total shitshow really lol...hard to believe there is so many with agendas in this

This is the legit account I believe ...

 

[BEISHA]

I have been saying this all along................." needs some other ehnical countries to take more control "

Aint that the truth.

 

[Deleted member 1612]

Well throwing it out there and tagging them all as well as the Franck, Joe and The General Inspectorate of Finance....see if I get any bites...total shitshow really lol...hard to believe there is so many with agendas in this

Shoulda tagged Elon too to show him what a shit show he’s getting into…

 

[Mickdavo]

anyone speak french? terrible broadcast typical of Africa

"Press conference on "the selling off of the mining assets of the public company COMINIERE SA"

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1djGXPOwWloGZ

cant even see the screen properly to know what's happening either..

 

[JAG]

Great post from the Ghost

It is very clear you are not a holder, your suggestions since this thread started are clearly in support of Zinjin. No need to comment further on this fact.

What you need to know:

Many of your grammatical comprehension errors are similar to Chinese speakers. I speak 4 Asian languages, 3 fluently. I deal with Mandarin speakers regularly.

The answer to both of your posts:

"Remember that our 15% acquisition is an option only, despite our preemptive rights." - this is where being a native speaker matters in contract law and what who having the option of what matters.

"We" (being AVZ Minerals) have the first right of refusal to purchase 15% of project ownership from Cominiere. This means, nobody else can be offered the right to purchase until we say no. It does not mean Cominiere can simply elect to not offer it to us.

To add to this, your friends at Zinjin and Jincheng mining co's may have just done us a favour - the price agreed on for sale was 33 million USD. We know it is worth far, far more than that. So did Zinjin and Jinchen, but you thought you could steal from the Congolese people before mining had even started. Depending on Congolese precedent, if the purchase process was illegal only based on the fact that it was not first offered to AVZ and AVZ was not present at the board meetings which apparently took place, Congolese precedent may argue that "the price" has already been determined. It may very well pan out that AVZ end up paying only $33m USD for this, when we should have paid more.

Second post:

If AVZ holders are too poor to afford to back their own mine, would AVZ holders be comfortable or willing to work alongside Zinjin (I read that type of wordspeak a lot in the Zinjin media releases, by the way so another hint at who you represent):

No - the holders of AVZ do not want Zinjin to hold any ownership of our mine. We are Australians (along with a few of the rest of us stragglers, I am a Kiwi/Australian dual citizen) and we can fund our own mine. We are not poor, destitute and we are not in tears on the side of the street asking for enough bread and water. That was Oliver Twist.

You continue to mention "if we", "our", and other statements that insinuate you are a holder however your statements throughout this thread have shown your true disclosure. You infact are not a holder. You are part of the 50 cent wu mao boiler room and we know that. We know who the real holders are, we can see by previous posts and all of your small boys club did not post prior to 2 weeks ago. You, Jasmine Tea and the rest of you. We know exactly who you are.

Go tell your bosses at the red round table that the shareholders of AVZ do not support Zinjin, they are disgusted with the underhanded back channel you attempted to use to steal their company from them and they are very comfortable funding Manono and its' people "to mine".

If it matters, your little incursion has actually soured the view of many shareholders in respect to the CATH deal also, we actually want to go it alone. Australian Li20 miners are far more successful than any Chinese venture (a stab at the "holder" questioning how many Aussie co's were successful in the Congo right now). The DRC government clearly trust us and we want the best for everyone locally and nationally.

We have the skilled foreign people, we have the shareholder funds, we have the trust of the government and the local people behind us. We do not need the red boiler room, we do not want the red boiler room. Go to bed and come back within minutes of each other to post again on Monday.

 

[Scoota30]

Yeah that account was created in Sept 21 as well, but I've sent a direct message to that account asking which of those 5 accounts is not fake, not sure I'll get a reply but at least I know they are now aware of them all existing from this point on.

I want to not engage in any of this crap, but I also feel obliged to do so due to the total lack of organisation and corruption coming from the DRC government and Cominiere

See Solo's post where he screenshots the official website that has tweets on it.