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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
I'm currently isolating, my Mrs has it currently and I'm testing negative but definitely have/had it as we had all the same symptoms at the same time but I passed several tests... :rolleyes: and have felt fine for the last few days. The brain fog is 100% a real thing though!

Hence how I actually have nothing better to do than shitpost on HC arguing with trolls, at least until I got suspended, gonna be a long 2 days...
Only 2 days!

Man at least I got two weeks :ROFLMAO:
 
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I'm currently isolating, my Mrs has it currently and I'm testing negative but definitely have/had it as we had all the same symptoms at the same time but I passed several tests... :rolleyes: and have felt fine for the last few days. The brain fog is 100% a real thing though!

Hence how I actually have nothing better to do than shitpost on HC arguing with trolls, at least until I got suspended, gonna be a long 2 days...
yeah unfortunately i work for myself so gotta keep pushing through! So annoyed because it was a bit of a self competition to try and go for as long as i can without getting it! hahaz
 
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cruiser51

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I thought talking about AVZ issues on the AVZ thread is where you do that.
It looks like stiffshit has different ideas. :rolleyes:

What a wanker, so are the moderators!

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Do You think the DRC officials would like to see this being dragged through the International Court of Arbitration and have its officials being openly accused of fraud and corruption?

Don't you think that it is in the DRC's President's interest in the DRC as well as internationally to be seen to be as far as possible removed from fraud and corruption, especially at this stage of rebuilding after a war and a President who enriched himself in a similar fashion as Putin is?
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I'm currently isolating, my Mrs has it currently and I'm testing negative but definitely have/had it as we had all the same symptoms at the same time but I passed several tests... :rolleyes: and have felt fine for the last few days. The brain fog is 100% a real thing though!

Hence how I actually have nothing better to do than shitpost on HC arguing with trolls, at least until I got suspended, gonna be a long 2 days...
Same situation here. My partner had covid 3-4 weeks ago & took about 10 days to recover.

I didn't catch it then but 10 days ago came down with the same symptoms - tested negative on 6 RATs & 2 PCR tests. Feeling better now, just a mongrel cough at night. Apparently I had the flu?🤷‍♂️
 
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@Bray

Hehe, except that link wasn't the website I was using. One moment please sir, I'll find the correct link for you

Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde Kyenge​

Prime Minister Democratic Republic of Congo

He might have taken Nigel's spot ?
 

DiscoDanNZ

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Only 2 days!

Man at least I got two weeks :ROFLMAO:

I've got something up my sleeve for if I get really pissed off when I'm not suspended...

yeah unfortunately i work for myself so gotta keep pushing through! So annoyed because it was a bit of a self competition to try and go for as long as i can
without getting it! hahaz

We just moved from Sydney to Brisbane after Easter and she was able to keep her job so has to work through it as best she can. I on the other hand hadn't started job hunting yet and until the market shit itself I wasn't really keen on working anyway but now it looks like I might need to fire up Seek.com.au lol

Same situation here. My partner had covid 3-4 weeks ago & took about 10 days to recover.

I didn't catch it then but 10 days ago came down with the same symptoms - tested negative on 6 RATs & 2 PCR tests. Feeling better now, just a mongrel cough at night. Apparently I had the flu?🤷‍♂️
That's rough, Mrs is flying back to NZ on the 21st so I just want to test positive and get it over with so it doesn't affect her trip.

My mate in NZ's Mrs tested positive with zero symptoms and he felt like shit but tested negative right up until their last day of ISO so had to do it all over again :ROFLMAO:

GLTAH holders on the the recovery from the shorters and the spicy cough i guess :LOL:
 
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Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde Kyenge​

Prime Minister Democratic Republic of Congo

He might have taken Nigel's spot ?
The the DRC PM and our favourite Mining Minister are there tomorrow as well.

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That got modded? Actually not surprised...

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That's my effort at getting modded for today. Did I breach the TOU? Absolutely. Did they moderate the non holder telling holders to get the vaso ready? Of course not, why would they do that? I re-reported the posts telling them to do their fucken jobs.
Permanently suspended from Crapper.
AVZ threads are a waste of time.
100%

Any decent posts are copied here.
Can still read threads worth reading.
Couldn't be happier
 
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I thought talking about AVZ issues on the AVZ thread is where you do that.
It looks like stiffshit has different ideas. :rolleyes:

What a wanker, so are the moderators!



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Anyhow the DRC Prime Minister is one of the speakers on 121, the Minister of Mines will be there as well.
I wouldn't be surprised Nigel might have un petit tête à tête with them.
 
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Permanently suspended from Crapper.
AVZ threads are a waste of time.
100%

Any decent posts are copied here.
Can still read threads worth reading.
Couldn't be happier

Couldn't agree more but it literally just gave me something to do to waste time and I haven't managed to get my hands on a new xbox yet :LOL:
 
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Reckon we have been through major troll attack 3 times on AVZ since Ive been a holder by my count and this one is a bit weaker than the 1st two.

Best way to deal with this inundation of uninformed and agenderised and clearly bias posts is simply skip over them. Its white noise from bunch of blow hards. If you reply to them you give O2 them and a soap box platform and load speaker to continue dodgy dialogue IMO. They say opinions are like bums every ones got one. Personally I have no desire to closely examine/see everyones...

For me the facts are clear ... AVZ holds 75% and has stated as much... that it is legally sound (according to AVZ ASX Anns). This is beyond doubt IMHO. So Dathomir claim is sketchy at best and they are pushing s--t uphill here IMO. So for AVZ 51% (with CATH @ 24%) the deal looks to be done /complete. Why? Apart from ASX Anns stating so both CATH and DRC Mining Dept would have done Due Dil on Legal ownership before penning a deal or a ML signoff.

The Cominiere 15% is the main game in this dispute IMO and appears to still be in conjecture. This involves several parties including some parts of DRC Govt Orgs . There have been many allegations in the media on both sides of wrong doings. So until either mediation internally within the umbrella of Dathcom or alternatively a full blown DRC high court case (or presidential decree) we may not know the result. AVZ has been subject to litigation 3 times before (4 if incl appeals) this in the DRC high court, in Supreme court in OZ and the internationally. AVZ have been winner in all 3 so far to my knowledge. Thats a 100% track record.! So legally AVZ seem to know what they are doing you could say ....in all relevant legal arenas.

One thing that I did notice is that the Zijin purchase price (approx $33m payment amount) is not fully paid... They have paid a deposit only looking at their stock exchange reports (Pls correct me if I am wrong here). Why have they not paid it completely... Perhaps they were worried they might lose there $$ if under arbitration ie, the decision is reversed. So are they not sure enough to complete the Tx ? Curious?

Finally if AVZ were to lose the 15% Cominiere was offering then AVZ will have simply lost the "Option" to purchase it but would still control 51%. We have not paid a cent so far for it so far. That 15% would cost AVZ $100's of mills to buy outright but the "option to buy" would be worth a tiny amount in comparison. So what is the $ value that the market attaches to that option in terms of existing valuation/MCap of AVZ. It is that amount that the AVZ Mcap should decline if the option is ultimately lost.

Anyways lets see what tomorrows Ann brings shall we... Given AVZ and Zijin commentary lately I would not be surprised to see litigation/ legal dispute announced. If so will probably take 12--18 months to resolve I'm thinking due to scheduling wait time for court access.

Will there be more court cases into the future ... No doubt. That's par for the course when a resource is as massively valuable as this one is.

All is in my opinion only.
Cheers FH.
 
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Just fixed the link, but yeah it's a rehash.

Not great when it's going across everywhere. Oh well ML tm bring it on
 
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Winenut

GO AVZ!!!!
Anyhow the DRC Prime Minister is one of the speakers on 121, the Minister of Mines will be there as well.
I wouldn't be surprised Nigel might have un petit tête à tête with them.
Oui Oui, tres bien
 
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GO AVZ!!!!
Reckon we have been through major troll attack 3 times on AVZ since Ive been a holder by my count and this one is a bit weaker than the 1st two.

Best way to deal with this inundation of uninformed and agenderised and clearly bias posts is simply skip over them. Its white noise from bunch of blow hards. If you reply to them you give O2 them and a soap box platform and load speaker to continue dodgy dialogue IMO. They say opinions are like bums every ones got one. Personally I have no desire to closely examine/see everyones...
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For me the facts are clear ... AVZ holds 75% and has stated as much... that it is legally sound (according to AVZ ASX Anns). This is beyond doubt IMHO. So Dathomir claim is sketchy at best and they are pushing s--t uphill here IMO. So for AVZ 51% (with CATH @ 24%) the deal looks to be done /complete. Why? Apart from ASX Anns stating so both CATH and DRC Mining Dept would have done Due Dil on Legal ownership before penning a deal or a ML signoff.

The Cominiere 15% is the main game in this dispute IMO and appears to still be in conjecture. This involves several parties including some parts of DRC Govt Orgs . There have been many allegations in the media on both sides of wrong doings. So until either mediation internally within the umbrella of Dathcom or alternatively a full blown DRC high court case (or presidential decree) we may not know the result. AVZ has been subject to litigation 3 times before (4 if incl appeals) this in the DRC high court, in Supreme court in OZ and the internationally. AVZ have been winner in all 3 so far to my knowledge. Thats a 100% track record.! So legally AVZ seem to know what they are doing you could say ....in all relevant legal arenas.

One thing that I did notice is that the Zijin purchase price (approx $33m payment amount) is not fully paid... They have paid a deposit only looking at their stock exchange reports (Pls correct me if I am wrong here). Why have they not paid it completely... Perhaps they were worried they might lose there $$ if under arbitration ie, the decision is reversed. So are they not sure enough to complete the Tx ? Curious?

Finally if AVZ were to lose the 15% Cominiere was offering then AVZ will have simply lost the "Option" to purchase it but would still control 51%. We have not paid a cent so far for it so far. That 15% would cost AVZ $100's of mills to buy outright but the "option to buy" would be worth a tiny amount in comparison. So what is the $ value that the market attaches to that option in terms of existing valuation/MCap of AVZ. It is that amount that the AVZ Mcap should decline if the option is ultimately lost.

Anyways lets see what tomorrows Ann brings shall we... Given AVZ and Zijin commentary lately I would not be surprised to see litigation/ legal dispute announced. If so will probably take 12--18 months to resolve I'm thinking due to scheduling wait time for court access.

Will there be more court cases into the future ... No doubt. That's par for the course when a resource is as massively valuable as this one is.

All is in my opinion only.
Cheers FH.
Well if your timeframe guesstimate for any legal resolution is close to the money then that's an 18 month haemorrhoid right there....:rolleyes:
 
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Jean-Michel Sama Lukonde Kyenge​

Prime Minister Democratic Republic of Congo

He might have taken Nigel's spot ?
Is that the goss? still showing Nigel at 10.40 at this stage on the site at least.I see J-M is speaking separately tomorrow, with the lady with the pen
 
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Bonjour à tous,
I am a Congolese citizen and my perspective can provide an understanding of the difficult situation in which AVZ is today.
  • Most politicians and public officials in Congo main objective in life is to get rich at record time and with minimum efforts. They will take any kind of shady back alley deal as long as it gets them a villa in Montpellier or in Anvers. The Cominière deal with Jin Chen Mining is a typical example. Why would a country so poor sell 10% of one of its most valuable assets ? Because the people in charge are preparing their post-Tshisekedi life.
  • In December 2023 general election will be held in the country and Felix Tshisekedi and his party the UDPS have little chances to get reelected. Mostly because of rising unemployment, famine, poverty, tribal wars, bref the lack of any kind of hope. I must admit that Congolese officials don't have (yet) the multigenerational mindset westerners or the Chinese have. This is why we sell everything (Copper, Zinc, Tin, Gold, the forest, Coltan and now Lithium) we have with a one-year projection while the others have 50 years of exploitation in their minds.
  • Nigel's plan was good: 15% to the Congolese, 24% to CATH and 61 % to AVZ. The problem is the corrupt environment. The only way to save this plan is to inform the Congolese population that some officials are being bribed into selling what could provide jobs and wealth for generations. Nigel needs to send his Congolese partners into the local media to force the officials to nullify the deal they made with Jin Chen Mining.


Always sceptical of posters like this to begin with, next post could they could easily be spruiking Zin and Jin
 
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Always sceptical of posters like this to begin with, next post could they could easily be spruiking Zin and Jin


Wow this "Congolese citizen" has better English than me.
 
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