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AVZ mentioned again.

Same article readable on MSN: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/top...-jeff-bezos-expands-into-dr-congo/ar-AA1DGMuO

Kobold even reposting on Linkedin. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kobo...s-and-jeff-activity-7322136759864090624-slTh/

Mining group backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos expands into DR Congo

A mining start-up backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos is expanding into the Democratic Republic of Congo, in a bet that the resource-rich nation will be crucial to US efforts to compete with China for minerals that are needed for the energy transition.

KoBold Metals, which deploys artificial intelligence to identify untapped mineral deposits, was betting “big” on DR Congo, said Benjamin Katabuka, its newly appointed director-general in the country.

The company would recruit staff in the country and planned to apply for licences to explore for lithium, copper and cobalt, he said.

The push into DR Congo comes as the African nation seeks to secure a minerals deal with the US, in talks that are part of President Donald Trump’s ambitions to break dependency on China for metals.

“KoBold is looking to go big in this country in terms of investment,” said Katabuka, a former employee of Freeport-McMoRan who has more than a decade of experience in the industry in DR Congo.

“Investments could be in the billions.”

Massad Boulos, Trump’s newly appointed senior adviser for Africa, said last week that he and DR Congo President Felix Tshisekedi had in recent days discussed the development of a US-DR Congo minerals pact and had “chartered a path forward”.

“We’re having similar discussions with other neighbouring countries,” Boulos added.

“Our role is to facilitate those private sector investments” in the mining sector, including with American government funding, he said.

DR Congo is the world’s number one supplier of cobalt, a metal used in the production of batteries for electric vehicles.

But it is also in the midst of an armed conflict that has disrupted mining in the eastern part of the country, where the M23 rebel group has seized large areas of land.

Berkeley-based KoBold raised $537mn during its latest round in January from investors including Gates’s Breakthrough Energy Ventures, whose backers include Bezos and former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg. The company has raised $1bn to date.

Katabuka acknowledged it was “difficult” to do business in DR Congo and that the perception of corruption was “high”.

KoBold would insist on “high standards” for its operations, he added.

Separately, several of the billionaires backing the mining operation have environmental interests in DR Congo through their philanthropic foundations.

The Bezos Earth Fund had pledged to protect the Congo basin, which the UN estimates stores about three years’ worth of global greenhouse gas emissions, from “degradation, deforestation and biodiversity loss” with grants of $110mn.

The Gates Foundation is supporting agricultural programmes in the region.

KoBold is also among the companies that are interested in developing a huge lithium deposit in DR Congo that is the subject of a legal dispute between Australia’s AVZ Minerals and China’s state-backed Zijin Mining.

The deposit had “the potential to become a large-scale, long-lived lithium mine”, KoBold wrote to the DR Congo government in January, according to a letter obtained by the Financial Times.

Mfikeyi Makayi, chief executive of KoBold Metals Africa, said the company was prepared to “look at” potential acquisition targets, although its main focus was on making new discoveries.

Many mines in DR Congo are run by Chinese groups, and no big American mining companies have operated there since Freeport-McMoRan sold its stake in the Tenke Fungurume copper mine to China’s CMOC in 2016.

Katabuka said the Congolese government was “interested in having some western investors coming into the country”, which would help “balance” China’s presence.

DR Congo wanted more metals processing to be done within the country, but it lacked the necessary infrastructure to do that, with mining companies even “struggling to get enough power for their production”, he said.



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If KoBold are coming out with low-ball offers, there’s no excuse for it, especially if a peace agreement has been made between the DRC and Rwanda.

KoBold aren’t miners so there’s nothing stopping them from forming a JV with Rio Tinto, BHP or the Saudi’s and stumping up $10billion, I’m sure CATL would.

No one likes the waiting around, but now @Spikerama has the counters out there on Cominiere’s fines and the ICSID, I’m looking forward to their next findings.



And seeing it’s after midnight here, I’m going to beat you to it just this once Spike

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If KoBold are coming out with low-ball offers, there’s no excuse for it, especially if a peace agreement has been made between the DRC and Rwanda.

KoBold aren’t miners so there’s nothing stopping them from forming a JV with Rio Tinto, BHP or the Saudi’s and stumping up $10billion, I’m sure CATL would.

No one likes the waiting around, but now @Spikerama has the counters out there on Cominiere’s fines and the ICSID, I’m looking forward to their next findings.



And seeing it’s after midnight here, I’m going to beat you to it just this once Spike

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Very good mate. Though I might put a landscape one later for those wanting one.
 
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If KoBold are coming out with low-ball offers, there’s no excuse for it, especially if a peace agreement has been made between the DRC and Rwanda.

KoBold aren’t miners so there’s nothing stopping them from forming a JV with Rio Tinto, BHP or the Saudi’s and stumping up $10billion, I’m sure CATL would.

No one likes the waiting around, but now @Spikerama has the counters out there on Cominiere’s fines and the ICSID, I’m looking forward to their next findings.



And seeing it’s after midnight here, I’m going to beat you to it just this once Spike

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Bezos will need some lithium gold for his "anti-Tesla" truck

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Re: DR Congo wanted more metals processing to be done within the country, but it lacked the necessary infrastructure to do that, with mining companies even “struggling to get enough power for their production”

After viewing 'Empire of Dust', why am I not surprised?.

I love the acknowledgement that doing business in DR Congo is difficult, and that the perception of corruption was high...perception? haha, that's the reality, and they better have a plan for dealing with it. Don't expect the government to step in. It's complicit up to its eyeballs.

Whoever buys out AVZ's assets at Manono better have seriously deep pockets in order to first rebuild after fifty years of looting and neglect. Sometimes knocking-down and rebuilding anew is cheaper and better than trying to repair the irreparable.

And then there's the workforce...oh dear.

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I love the acknowledgement that doing business in DR Congo is difficult, and that the perception of corruption was high...perception? haha, that's the reality, and they better have a plan for dealing with it. Don't expect the government to step in. It's complicit up to its eyeballs.

Yeah, if only the US had a history of their intelligence agencies staging coups and instilling puppet/sympathetic governments more aligned to US interests.
 
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Gates, Bezos-backed critical minerals explorer to ‘go big’ on Congo – report​

Staff Writer | April 27, 2025 | 8:27 am Critical Minerals Exploration Suppliers & Equipment Africa USA Cobalt Copper Lithium
Gates, Bezos-backed KoBold says Zambia copper find a ‘huge’ one

KoBold Metals is involved in nearly 60 explorations projects across three continents. (Image courtesy of KoBold Metals.)
KoBold Metals, the mining startup backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, is expanding its footprint into the Democratic Republic of the Congo, with plans to invest billions into the African nation’s large endowment of resources, the Financial Times reported.
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Benjamin Katabuka, the country’s newly appointed director general, told the British newspaper that KoBold is looking to “go big” in the DRC, currently the world’s biggest producer of cobalt and the leading copper producer on the continent.
He added the company plans to apply for licences to explore for these two critical minerals as well as lithium, of which the DRC holds significant deposits but has yet to fully unlock.

These investments could potentially be “in the billions”, Katabuka said, as cited by the Financial Times article published late Saturday.
The report comes amid heightened trade tensions between the US and China, which saw the latter flex its dominant position in the critical minerals supply chain by placing export restrictions on rare earths.

In the Congo, many of its biggest mines are run by Chinese groups, while American companies have had little presence since Freeport-McMoRan sold its stake in the Tenke Fungurume copper mine to China’s CMOC in 2016.

Katabuka said the Congolese government is “interested in having some Western investors coming into the country” to balance China’s presence in the nation.

Congo minerals​

KoBold’s push into Congo comes at a time when the African nation is negotiating with the US on a potential minerals pact. Earlier this year, DRC President Felix Tshisekedi offered a minerals-for-security deal to Washington in an effort to end the ongoing armed conflict with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.

On the jurisdictional risk, DRC’s Katabuka acknowledged that it has been “difficult” to do business in the country, but added that KoBold has assured that the company will demand “high standards” for its operations.

KoBold — which specializes in using artificial intelligence to identify untapped critical minerals deposits — has around 60 active projects across four continents. In Africa, its focal point has been Zambia, where last year it made what was the country’s largest copper discovery in a century. A move into Congo means the company would have a presence in Africa’s two largest copper producers. Earlier this year, it also expanded into Namibia, focusing on its deposits of lithium and nickel.

To support its critical minerals exploration, KoBold raised $537 million during its latest round from investors including Gates’ Breakthrough Energy Ventures, Earthshot Ventures, Equinor, July Fund, Mitsubishi Corporation and Standard Investments. To date, the California-based company has raised $1 billion.
 
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The agreement is a “declaration of principles”, which a diplomatic source described as “very broad objectives to work towards”.
Both sides will finalise the specifics in a few months and then sign the agreement, the source said.

So a few months away

Erik Prince of the Blackwater Group also said in an interview recently that it would take about 3 months to assess how things are going regarding peace between Rwanda, the M23 militia, the DRC and other groups fighting over minerals in eastern DRC

For those that don’t know, his Blackwater Group is being paid hundreds of millions to provide security over there. I had a link to his recorded interview but it’s mysteriously disappeared off the site so here’s a link to it straight from Erik Prince’s X profile in his Media which hopefully works 👇


Seeing that peace in the east can’t be guaranteed for at least a few months, I’m settled in now in hoping we go the full ICC and ICSID route. Better than having blow ins like KoBold trying to do deals with the corrupt DRC and make us a low-ball offer

We know the US Is desperate to get Manono, just give us a good offer or fuck off
 
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No, German humour is more like.... *to be read in the best Arnold Schwarzenegger accent...

1. Why can't Stephen Hawking dance? Because he has motor neuron disease and he is confined to a wheelchair.

2. Why did the chicken cross the road? Because chickens are migratory animals and instinct drives them to seek more fertile land.

3. How do you make a sausage roll? First, acquire minced pork, breadcrumbs, and seasoning. Then prepare a shortcrust or puff pastry, wrap the seasoned meat inside, and bake in an oven preheated to 200°C for 25 minutes.

*and yes I do realise Arnie is Austrian but I couldn't think of a better accent.
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So a few months away

Erik Prince of the Blackwater Group also said in an interview recently that it would take about 3 months to assess how things are going regarding peace between Rwanda, the M23 militia, the DRC and other groups fighting over minerals in eastern DRC

For those that don’t know, his Blackwater Group is being paid hundreds of millions to provide security over there. I had a link to his recorded interview but it’s mysteriously disappeared off the site so here’s a link to it straight from Erik Prince’s X profile in his Media which hopefully works 👇


Seeing that peace in the east can’t be guaranteed for at least a few months, I’m settled in now in hoping we go the full ICC and ICSID route. Better than having blow ins like KoBold trying to do deals with the corrupt DRC and make us a low-ball offer

We know the US Is desperate to get Manono, just give us a good offer or fuck off
If we take current events out of the equation and go back only a few months the positive vibe and confidence was around secured funding , CATH backing and the building pressure of the fast approaching ICSID date . Now we have secured funding ,additional major players showing their hand and the building pressure of a fast approaching ICSID date . If the US/DRC security deal will eventually be rubber stamped , I don't see why Felix would want the ICSID case to commence .
 
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If we take current events out of the equation and go back only a few months the positive vibe and confidence was around secured funding , CATH backing and the building pressure of the fast approaching ICSID date . Now we have secured funding ,additional major players showing their hand and the building pressure of a fast approaching ICSID date . If the US/DRC security deal will eventually be rubber stamped , I don't see why Felix would want the ICSID case to commence .

Well in my view Wombat, CATH gave us the $20million (US dollars no less) to fight the cases in arbitration, they also proposed a JV partnership and proposed an arrangement where they pay for the project’s development. CATH also offered us an option to purchase up to 49% in a lithium hydroxide or carbonate conversion plant built by them. Remember CATH is in partnership with CATL, the world’s biggest lithium battery manufacturer.

What have KoBold offered us, fuck all. They’re mouthing off all over the place about how great they are and how they are negotiating with the DRC. The only mention they give us is a questionable reference to us being in a legal dispute.

With the help of the DRC, they illegally tried to access our core library without AVZ’s permission, and they have shown they are desperate to get ownership of Manono but won’t come out with any sort of reasonable offer.

It’s absolutely laughable to suggest that the US wants to develop the Lobito Corridor and bring peace as an act of benevolence, they are just desperate for the critical minerals and Roche Dure’s 842million tonnes of 1.61% Lithium Oxide

They were no where to be found when we were looking to secure litigation funding but once CATH gave it to us KoBold came scurrying out of the woodwork with bold statements talking themselves up.

Personally, I don’t trust KoBold and think we should go through the litigation process to strengthen our position and force all those fuckers to make an offer AVZ shareholders think is fair
 
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And yet still not a peep from China or Zijin Mining, which makes me suspicious about the provenance of this statement.

In late 2024, Zijin communicated to its shareholders that in 2025, it expects to invest billions in global acquisitions as part of its aggressive global expansion strategy.

In Jan 2025, Zijin bought the controlling stake in Zangge Mining for approximately 13.7 billion yuan ($US1.9 billion). Zangge Mining has potassium, copper and significant Li brine assets in Tibet.

In 2025, Zijin also acquired the Akyem gold Project in Ghana for approximately $US1 billion, and the the La Arena mine in Peru for $US245 million.

I hope Zijin has retained some cash because at some point it needs to pony-up and compensate AVZ appropriately if it wants to maintain its foot-hold on CDL and other peripheral assets.

Zijin has a tough choice to make; either cough up prior to ICSID deliberations, or cough up later after AVZ and DLA Piper expose the DRC's snake-pit of graft and corruption, and Zijin gets caught in the backwash.

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Well in my view Wombat, CATH gave us the $20million (US dollars no less) to fight the cases in arbitration, they also proposed a JV partnership and proposed an arrangement where they pay for the project’s development. CATH also offered us an option to purchase up to 49% in a lithium hydroxide or carbonate conversion plant built by them. Remember CATH is in partnership with CATL, the world’s biggest lithium battery manufacturer.

What have KoBold offered us, fuck all. They’re mouthing off all over the place about how great they are and how they are negotiating with the DRC. The only mention they give us is a questionable reference to us being in a legal dispute.

With the help of the DRC, they illegally tried to access our core library without AVZ’s permission, and they have shown they are desperate to get ownership of Manono but won’t come out with any sort of reasonable offer.

It’s absolutely laughable to suggest that the US wants to develop the Lobito Corridor and bring peace as an act of benevolence, they are just desperate for the critical minerals and Roche Dure’s 842million tonnes of 1.61% Lithium Oxide

They were no where to be found when we were looking to secure litigation funding but once CATH gave it to us KoBold came scurrying out of the woodwork with bold statements talking themselves up.

Personally, I don’t trust KoBold and think we should go through the litigation process to strengthen our position and force all those fuckers to make an offer AVZ shareholders think is fair
Well said and exactly my thoughts.

Below are some of my opinions.

It’s great we have public alncowledgement from KoBold and Rio for that matter of interest in Manono. Now the following is only based on public information…. What isn’t great is it seems they are negotiating with the DRC government. No acknowledgement that Nigel is “in the room” during these discussions. Also I was always suspect of the Locke funding and just my own opinion is that the terms were awful and they are in bed with Kobold. Give AVZ a shit offer to live another day, it drags out beyond the agreement, AVZ can’t pay back the requirements, Locke takes Manono as collateral and I would bet my left nut that Kobold would come out of the shadows and acquires it from Locke for a bag of chips.

Also my opinion is that CATH would have been well aware of these developments from KoBold (the desire to acquire more so than my speculation above) and why they ponied up a decent counter offer. If Locke funding happened there is NO chance CATH get their hands on Manono. Providing funding to AVZ still keeps them in the game as a partner at the very least.

Also another thing to consider is that the US/DRC protection for minerals deals go beyond Manono. In the grand scheme of things Manono, and whilst it’s the best lithium deposit on the planet and will have a role in global lithium pricing, there are potentially trillions in other commodities that are more important than Lithium such as copper, cobalt, nickel and REEs which are much harder to bring to market than lithium which is much more abundant. But again that’s just my POV and not dismissing Mananos role going forward. I just think there are other just as important if not more for the USA to get their hands on. But you never say no to Manono if it’s up for grabs 😉
 
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Well in my view Wombat, CATH gave us the $20million (US dollars no less) to fight the cases in arbitration, they also proposed a JV partnership and proposed an arrangement where they pay for the project’s development. CATH also offered us an option to purchase up to 49% in a lithium hydroxide or carbonate conversion plant built by them. Remember CATH is in partnership with CATL, the world’s biggest lithium battery manufacturer.

What have KoBold offered us, fuck all. They’re mouthing off all over the place about how great they are and how they are negotiating with the DRC. The only mention they give us is a questionable reference to us being in a legal dispute.

With the help of the DRC, they illegally tried to access our core library without AVZ’s permission, and they have shown they are desperate to get ownership of Manono but won’t come out with any sort of reasonable offer.

It’s absolutely laughable to suggest that the US wants to develop the Lobito Corridor and bring peace as an act of benevolence, they are just desperate for the critical minerals and Roche Dure’s 842million tonnes of 1.61% Lithium Oxide

They were no where to be found when we were looking to secure litigation funding but once CATH gave it to us KoBold came scurrying out of the woodwork with bold statements talking themselves up

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It’s absolutely laughable to suggest that the US wants to develop the Lobito Corridor and bring peace as an act of benevolence, they are just desperate for the critical minerals and Roche Dure’s 842million tonnes of 1.61% Lithium Oxide


Yep , fair post and the articles below just emphasises how desperate the US equation is regards to critical minerals.



It certainly explains the critical mineral hunt the Trump administration has been hell bent on pursuing in recent months ( UKRAINE, GREENLAND, AFRICA / DRC )

Its a pretty simple scenario for me, if the US ( KOBALD )wants Manono and hence compete with China in the lithium space, pay fair price, dont tight arse cause their critical mineral future is on the line and Manono can certainly help them out big time!

I also believe KOBALD should be trying to TO Manono in its entirety ( CDL included ), as we all know CDL is purported to be 3 times larger than RD , allowing China to control that side makes no sense to me, it wont change the equation, China will still dominate the lithium space !

What better way to cut Chyna at its knees by controlling the lot.

In the mean time, i agree........ happy to go to arbitration and see those cunties ( Cominiere / DRC govt / Zijin / Dathomir ) shamed plus establish what a fair compensation payout looks like to form a base as to what Kobald should be paying to the 21000 long time suffering AVZ shareholders.

How many days to go now @Spikerama ?

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