AVZ Discussion 2022

[Mr_Tones83]

Valid point Carlos........hence this expedited action

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Big ambititions, totally unlawful , totally corrupt , totally disrespecting AVZ and a big tally of fines too........$73m

Anyway, kudos to AVZ bod for continuing to put the hand on the throat!

I guess how ambitious it is depends on a few things:

- The 'expert' opinion as to the risks of resolution through legal channels.

"It is with this in mind that an expert was recruited to assess the risks that the country may incur following this dispute if it were to be resolved through legal channels."

- Whether the ICC determines that the fines on Cominiere should be liquidated imminently (yep, I said it!). There will be huge pressure on them to do so following the most recent transgressions for the PE on 15775 if ICC wants to maintain credibility as an organisation.

- The excuses that DRC comes up with for allowing the change to PE on 15775 at ICSID.

The shit that's been pulled so far that they think they can get away with while facing international courts is simply mindblowing

Can't wait to see the response to the letter of 30 July.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

I would not invest another single cent unless Management agreed to cut their wages in half.

They already have and then some I believe

 

[Frank]

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[BEISHA]

Surely it added value to our final compensation claim though?

Yeah, i am pretty sure that was the aim of the exercise and i get the strategy, certainly made sense, but unfortunately it did drain the finances and Zijin have used the core logs to their advantage to expedite a dodgy jorc, of course the BOD wouldnt of seen that coming, just like they wouldnt of seen cominiere / zijin / DRC govt white anting them during covid either.....

This whole situation is just so farken twisted and fucked up, relentless and beyond belief.

 

[BEISHA]

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How long will it take for a cabinet reshuffle ?

About as long as it took to confirm compositition of government upon re election ?

6 months should do it......rofl

 

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[Mr_Tones83]

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These guys would be great comedy writers

 

[Dazmac66]

Who exactly is using the Cominiere X account to write this stuff! When will the the ICC and ICSID actually do something to stop this circus??

One thing that I often ponder is the culpability of the Chinese in this fiasco. Will they be liable for any of the compensation claims or have they just set up the imbeciles in the DRC to take the fall. Would be happy to see huge fines and sanctions head Zijins way.

 

[robface]

Yeah, i am pretty sure that was the aim of the exercise and i get the strategy, certainly made sense, but unfortunately it did drain the finances and Zijin have used the core logs to their advantage to expedite a dodgy jorc, of course the BOD wouldnt of seen that coming, just like they wouldnt of seen cominiere / zijin / DRC govt white anting them during covid either.....

This whole situation is just so farken twisted and fucked up, relentless and beyond belief.

From the Pakistan ICSID case

The ICSID awarded a $4.08bn penalty and $1.87bn in interest.

The management of the Tethyan Copper Company (TCC) had claimed $11.43bn in damages.

So if the extra drilling doubled the compensation claim it was definitely worth it.

 

[Samus]

From the Pakistan ICSID case

The ICSID awarded a $4.08bn penalty and $1.87bn in interest.

The management of the Tethyan Copper Company (TCC) had claimed $11.43bn in damages.

So if the extra drilling doubled the compensation claim it was definitely worth it.

Unless DRC act in good faith very fucking soon we should shut down all negotiations and sue the fuck out of them.
At least that way we know where we stand.
The damage has been done anyway, the time to get this show on the road was two years ago. All we've seen from the DRC is corrupt, criminal behaviour and pandering to the Chinese criminals. They can't be trusted, scum of the earth.

 

[BRICK]

Who exactly is using the Cominiere X account to write this stuff! When will the the ICC and ICSID actually do something to stop this circus??

One thing that I often ponder is the culpability of the Chinese in this fiasco. Will they be liable for any of the compensation claims or have they just set up the imbeciles in the DRC to take the fall. Would be happy to see huge fines and sanctions head Zijins way.

The Chinese doesn’t give a dead dogs dick about cominiere and would leave them out to dry in a heartbeat

 

[Frank]

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[cruiser51]

The Chinese doesn’t give a dead dogs dick about cominiere and would leave them out to dry in a heartbeat

Can you imagine a dead Chihuahua dogs dig hanging out to dry?
I don't know what it would do to my heartbeat!

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[Panther22]

Unless DRC act in good faith very fucking soon we should shut down all negotiations and sue the fuck out of them.
At least that way we know where we stand.
The damage has been done anyway, the time to get this show on the road was two years ago. All we've seen from the DRC is corrupt, criminal behaviour and pandering to the Chinese criminals. They can't be trusted, scum of the earth.

Totally agree but just didn't want to say it.
Set a deadline for common sense discussions or cease all negotiations and advise DRC we are going all in on ICC and ICSID arbitrations with the view of maximizing compensation then push ICC and ICSID for emergency hearings because of the non conforming of orders already made.

I am over waking up each day and turning on my computer hoping there is an announcement either from AVZ or you guys filling these pages with good news, not going to happen. All in on legal action is the only way forward.

AIMO. This shit has dominated my life over past 2+ years, there has to be an end and that is the Courts. Take them for everything then one day, maybe, just maybe they will elect a Politician who actually follows through on what they say about cleaning up corruption and stopping the stealing of Government Funds. All words no action can only mean they are in on it.

FT can't help us because that would mean going back on his word and promises with the Chinese, simple as that.
Corruption and looking after themselves is in their DNA. The people don't matter, they are just a means of getting elected and can wait for the good times from the next Politician, the next election.

GLTAH. I am willing to help fund the fight forward if it means buying more shares or a fighting fund just so long as we have control who is involved.

 

[Retrobyte]

Who exactly is using the Cominiere X account to write this stuff!

It's probably Der Geist

 

[cruiser51]

It's probably Der Geist

He, alias morningsuits5, just popped up, with his typical trade mark of verbal diarrhoea directed against NF, on HC.

He must have realised nobody gives a shit about his crap on X.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Morningsuits over on hotcrapper is ************** - disregard it all, spurned ex lover of Nigel.

Hoots is here watching devastated that no one uses hotcrapper anymore. What a fucking loser of a person he is.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Der guist sorry**

 

[Xerof]

Der guist sorry**

It’s Ty me kangaroo I think

 

[Frank]

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