AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

CKK offering to front up to the ICSID says to me that Cominiere has been cut out of the loop and is not part of negotiations currently going on between DRC and AVZ.

CKK on the outer…..must be worrying those who he is compromised with!

Yes that's the strangest part since the release of the first article. If it's valid then why the need to try to muscle themselves in to the ICSID hearing?

Silence from the DRC government, silence from the BOD.

Though unsurprisingly JFMK seems to agree with CKK if the CAMI portal is anything to go by.

Franck still reckons it's bullshit:

What do you think?
@FranckFwamba @KiengeKki

The state uses reports @IgfRdc on mining companies to act effectively. It goes for Cominiere and it will be done whatever people say and claim. God is in control and things on the calculation are added day by day. The law, the truth will triumph.

 

[SilentOne]

The interesting thing about Special "K" is that he has sold the same car to multiple people. Now everyone is wanting delivery.

The only option that the DRC has to escape this litigious quagmire that Special "K" has created and to protect his Ministers is to prosecute him for fraud.

This would also snuff out Sin Bins questionable arrangements and enable the mining license to be issued. Not a good look for Felix to be drawn into both the ICC & ICSID fights especially when his platform is to clean up corruption.

The IGF would have been instituted with the intent of the DRC working towards being taken off the Grey List (US Treasury). Ignore the IGF at your peril.

DRC Officials and Ministers do not want to be sanctioned Internationally as they would run the risk of losing access to assets that they have outside the country.

To make things go away there are two major things that need to happen;

1) Prosecute Special "K"
2) Issue the Mining Licence

But hey we will wait and see what happens.

Oh and don't forget just because the mining license hasn't been issued doesn't mean the value of the mine has been extinguished.

SilentOne - just a thought bubble

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Remember the 'deal' with Zijin (which was leaked) was basically a blackmail letter saying that we 'Zijin' will return the 15% if you give us 70% of the northern tenement in return for the monies already paid.
I'm sure @Carlos Danger has the letter tucked away somewhere?

Maybe it's a bad translation or I'm stupid but the entire article doesn't make a lot of sense. It's as if Comimiere SA have gone off rogue into their own little world digging themselves a deeper and deeper grave.
None of the evidence for anything they're claiming holds up as far as we know.
Under threat of ICSID brandishing such lies, it's madness on their part.
The government would be out of their collective mind not to distance themselves from it and back their own IGF.
Even if only because of the arbitration.

Sam @Chilla @Mr Inappropriate and whoever else wants to read it

This is the link with all the information related to Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (CKK) and his lies
2 pages of info

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba

Sale of the mining assets of Cominière SA: Technical director Célestin Kibeya accused of complicity and usurpation of competence Congolese civil society organizations and platforms specializing in mining issues (Justicia Asbl, LICOCO, RND Asbl, POM, MDR, GANVE, CDH, ESPOIR ONG, RCEN...

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[Samus]

Sam @Chilla @Mr Inappropriate and whoever else wants to read it

This is the link with all the information related to Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (CKK) and his lies
2 pages of info

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba

Sale of the mining assets of Cominière SA: Technical director Célestin Kibeya accused of complicity and usurpation of competence Congolese civil society organizations and platforms specializing in mining issues (Justicia Asbl, LICOCO, RND Asbl, POM, MDR, GANVE, CDH, ESPOIR ONG, RCEN...

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Cheers MB, it probably hasn't been said enough that ist a brilliant archive you've created there! It's been handy for reference in many occasions with all the convoluted bullshit floating around.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Remember the 'deal' with Zijin (which was leaked) was basically a blackmail letter saying that we 'Zijin' will return the 15% if you give us 70% of the northern tenement in return for the monies already paid.
I'm sure @Carlos Danger has the letter tucked away somewhere?

Maybe it's a bad translation or I'm stupid but the entire article doesn't make a lot of sense. It's as if Comimiere SA have gone off rogue into their own little world digging themselves a deeper and deeper grave.
None of the evidence for anything they're claiming holds up as far as we know.
Under threat of ICSID brandishing such lies, it's madness on their part.
The government would be out of their collective mind not to distance themselves from it and back their own IGF.
Even if only because of the arbitration.

Sam @Chilla @Mr Inappropriate and whoever else wants to read it

This is the link with all the information related to Celestin Kibeya Kabemba (CKK) and his lies
2 pages of info

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba

Sale of the mining assets of Cominière SA: Technical director Célestin Kibeya accused of complicity and usurpation of competence Congolese civil society organizations and platforms specializing in mining issues (Justicia Asbl, LICOCO, RND Asbl, POM, MDR, GANVE, CDH, ESPOIR ONG, RCEN...

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I don't have a copy of the Zijin offer to Cominiere. I might have at one time but possibly deleted it. @JAG posted the below translation in April that is in the thread created by @MoneyBags1348 but some of the lines are hard to read and it seems to be missing 3 pages. If anyone has a full original or translation please post it.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

I don't have a copy of the Zijin offer to Cominiere. I might have at one time but possibly deleted it. @JAG posted the below translation in April that is in the thread created by @MoneyBags1348 but some of the lines are hard to read and it seems to be missing 3 pages. If anyone has a full original or translation please post it.

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Is this the post you’re looking for?

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba

10/04/2023 JAG Posted

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[Carlos Danger]

Is this the post you’re looking for?

Celestin Kibeya Kabemba

10/04/2023 JAG Posted

thestockexchange.com.au

Yeah that's the full letter in text. Thought we had the full original documents but that's good enough if not.

 

[Carlos Danger]

the new ad interim CEO sent a formal notice to AVZ L on December 6, 2022. Thus by his letter CEM DG/139/ckk/2022 the CEO asked the shareholder AVZ international to provide proof of fundraising as well as the allocation of these funds to the common project. The DG ai based his argument on the opacity noted in these fundraising operations, which constitutes a breach of the JV contract. Thus, in accordance with Article 18.3 of the JV contract, he gave AVZ formal notice to communicate to him all documents relating to the financing file of the DATHCOM MINING SA project with the details of the financial institution which granted the financing, the amount released, as well as the reimbursement guarantees given Failing AVZ to produce the said documents within 90 days of receipt of its correspondence, COMINIERE SA should draw all the consequences

Article 18.3 of the Dathcom JV and Article 11 that it refers to are below

CKK is an absolute fucking moron citing 18.3 and then seeking to terminate the JV within the DRC as it clearly states that arbitration through the ICC is how disputes are to be settled

 

[TheCount]

What has 4 letters
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TC.

 

[Doc]

What has 4 letters
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Yes

 

[KLCC]

What has 4 letters
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I concur

 

[Rediah]

What has 4 letters
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Never has 5 letters.
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No doubt about it unless Tommy the Turd Burglar write an article to prove otherwise.

 

[Frank]

He will be thrown under the bus long before….the ICSID will be withdrawn once the resolution is reached with those many levels above CKK.

CKK’s off hand and unsupported complaints that AVZ has done nothing for 7 years and abuse of majority are nothing but words of a desperate Zijin being repeated by a compromised CKK.

*This will make you go

Did you see where someone wants a Revival of Justice and urges the Government to make more means available

Ahh, The last time i looked, Wasn't He in Charge of the Government, So isn't it up to Him at the end of the Day

Anyway, I can think of a couple of good places to start with your "Revival / Rule of Law / Vision" Mr President

 

[Winenut]

What has 4 letters
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Never has 5 letters.
TC.

to add to the theme..

What has 4 letters
Sometimes has 9 letters
Never has 5 letters.
Always has 6 letters

 

[Rediah]

to add to the theme..

What has 4 letters
Sometimes has 9 letters
Never has 5 letters.
Always has 6 letters

Fucknose has 8 letters

You guys are keep dropping the hints and making it difficult for Turd Burglar

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TB be like

 

[Xerof]

Any of you sandgropers going to Klaus's open home, (or is it home open in WA)?

 

[BEISHA]

Any of you sandgropers going to Klaus's open home, (or is it home open in WA)?

I live next door, so i might go for a wander.......

 

[Xerof]

Occasionally has 12 letters

 

[Winenut]

Any of you sandgropers going to Klaus's open home, (or is it home open in WA)?

I'd expect a place like that would be appointment only with the agent

Wouldn't want the great unwashed like AVZ holders wandering through the joint causing mayhem

Although Klaus doesn't know who might just make an appointment with the agent now does he?

 

[Winenut]

Occasionally has 12 letters

It's a conundrum isn't it?

Occassionally has 12 letters

Never has 5 letters and often does