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CashKing

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The U.S. has been through this before. When its all sorted out and passed the share market will take off like a rocket.
What ? Bro they can’t keep printing their way out of debt, Covid printing alone there’s no coming back from that let alone the major debt before hand..

Your kids great grandkids will be paying that off in taxes mate…

🧐 Unless you own a shit tonne of gold push the price up double or triple & sell it off and pay your debt ish ! Maybe 1/2 if your lucky depending on how much gold you sell to 🤔 China ? Slippery slope

GLTAH
 
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Exclusive: Chinese hackers attacked Kenyan government as debt strains grew​

By Aaron Ross
, James Pearson
and Christopher Bing
May 25, 20235:28 AM GMT+8Updated 16 hours ago
A general view shows a cargo train on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) line constructed by the China Road and Bridge Corporation and financed by the Chinese government in Athi River


[1/9] A general view shows a cargo train on the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) line constructed by the China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC) and financed by the Chinese government in Athi River, Kenya May 16, 2023. REUTERS/Thomas Mukoya

  • Summary
  • Cyber spies infiltrated Kenyan networks from 2019
  • Hit finance ministry, president's office, spy agency and others
  • Sources believe Beijing was seeking info on debt
NAIROBI, May 24 (Reuters) - Chinese hackers targeted Kenya's government in a widespread, years-long series of digital intrusions against key ministries and state institutions, according to three sources, cybersecurity research reports and Reuters' own analysis of technical data related to the hackings.
Two of the sources assessed the hacks to be aimed, at least in part, at gaining information on debt owed to Beijing by the East African nation: Kenya is a strategic link in the Belt and Road Initiative - President Xi Jinping's plan for a global infrastructure network.
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"Further compromises may occur as the requirement for understanding upcoming repayment strategies becomes needed," a July 2021 research report written by a defence contractor for private clients stated.
China's foreign ministry said it was "not aware" of any such hacking, while China's embassy in Britain called the accusations "baseless", adding that Beijing opposes and combats "cyberattacks and theft in all their forms."
China's influence in Africa has grown rapidly over the past two decades. But, like several African nations, Kenya's finances are being strained by the growing cost of servicing external debt - much of it owed to China.
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The hacking campaign demonstrates China's willingness to leverage its espionage capabilities to monitor and protect economic and strategic interests abroad, two of the sources said.
The hacks constitute a three-year campaign that targeted eight of Kenya's ministries and government departments, including the presidential office, according to an intelligence analyst in the region. The analyst also shared with Reuters research documents that included the timeline of attacks, the targets, and provided some technical data relating to the compromise of a server used exclusively by Kenya's main spy agency.
A Kenyan cybersecurity expert described similar hacking activity against the foreign and finance ministries. All three of the sources asked not to be named due to the sensitive nature of their work.

"Your allegation of hacking attempts by Chinese Government entities is not unique," Kenya's presidential office said, adding the government had been targeted by "frequent infiltration attempts" from Chinese, American and European hackers.
"As far as we are concerned, none of the attempts were successful," it said.
It did not provide further details nor respond to follow-up questions.
A spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in Britain said China is against "irresponsible moves that use topics like cybersecurity to sow discord in the relations between China and other developing countries".
"China attaches great importance to Africa's debt issue and works intensively to help Africa cope with it," the spokesperson added.

THE HACKS​

Between 2000 and 2020, China committed nearly $160 billion in loans to African countries, according to a comprehensive database on Chinese lending hosted by Boston University, much of it for large-scale infrastructure projects.
Kenya used over $9 billion in Chinese loans to fund an aggressive push to build or upgrade railways, ports and highways.
Beijing became the country's largest bilateral creditor and gained a firm foothold in the most important East African consumer market and a vital logistical hub on Africa's Indian Ocean coast.

By late 2019, however, when the Kenyan cybersecurity expert told Reuters he was brought in by Kenyan authorities to assess a hack of a government-wide network, Chinese lending was drying up. And Kenya's financial strains were showing.
The breach reviewed by the Kenyan cybersecurity expert and attributed to China began with a "spearphishing" attack at the end of that same year, when a Kenyan government employee unknowingly downloaded an infected document, allowing hackers to infiltrate the network and access other agencies.

"A lot of documents from the ministry of foreign affairs were stolen and from the finance department as well. The attacks appeared focused on the debt situation," the Kenyan cybersecurity expert said.
Another source - the intelligence analyst working in the region - said Chinese hackers carried out a far-reaching campaign against Kenya that began in late 2019 and continued until at least 2022.

According to documents provided by the analyst, Chinese cyber spies subjected the office of Kenya's president, its defence, information, health, land and interior ministries, its counter-terrorism centre and other institutions to persistent and prolonged hacking activity.
The affected government departments did not respond to requests for comment, declined to be interviewed or were unreachable.

By 2021, global economic fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic had already helped push one major Chinese borrower - Zambia - to default on its external debt. Kenya managed to secure a temporary debt repayment moratorium from China.
In early July 2021, the cybersecurity research reports shared by the intelligence analyst in the region detailed how the hackers secretly accessed an email server used by Kenya's National Intelligence Service (NIS).

Reuters was able to confirm that the victim's IP address belonged to the NIS. The incident was also covered in a report from the private defence contractor reviewed by Reuters.
Reuters could not determine what information was taken during the hacks or conclusively establish the motive for the attacks. But the defence contractor's report said the NIS breach was possibly aimed at gleaning information on how Kenya planned to manage its debt payments.
"Kenya is currently feeling the pressure of these debt burdens...as many of the projects financed by Chinese loans are not generating enough income to pay for themselves yet," the report stated.

A Reuters review of internet logs delineating the Chinese digital espionage activity showed that a server controlled by the Chinese hackers also accessed a shared Kenyan government webmail service more recently from December 2022 until February this year.
Chinese officials declined to comment on this recent breach, and the Kenyan authorities did not respond to a question about it.

'BACKDOOR DIPLOMACY'​

The defence contractor, pointing to identical tools and techniques used in other hacking campaigns, identified a Chinese state-linked hacking team as having carried out the attack on Kenya's intelligence agency.
The group is known as "BackdoorDiplomacy" in the cybersecurity research community, because of its record of trying to further the objectives of Chinese diplomatic strategy.

According to Slovakia-based cybersecurity firm ESET, BackdoorDiplomacy re-uses malicious software against its victims to gain access to their networks, making it possible to track their activities.
Provided by Reuters with the IP address of the NIS hackers, Palo Alto Networks, a U.S. cybersecurity firm that tracks BackdoorDiplomacy's activities, confirmed that it belongs to the group, adding that its prior analysis shows the group is sponsored by the Chinese state.
Cybersecurity researchers have documented BackdoorDiplomacy hacks targeting governments and institutions in a number of countries in Asia and Europe.

Incursions into the Middle East and Africa appear less common, making the focus and scale of its hacking activities in Kenya particularly noteworthy, the defence contractor's report said.
"This angle is clearly a priority for the group."

China's embassy in Britain rejected any involvement in the Kenya hackings, and did not directly address questions about the government's relationship with BackdoorDiplomacy.
"China is a main victim of cyber theft and attacks and a staunch defender of cybersecurity," a spokesperson said.

Reporting by Aaron Ross in Nairobi, James Pearson in London and Christopher Bing in Washington Additional reporting by Eduardo Baptista in Beijing Editing by Chris Sanders and Joe Bavier
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.


"China is a main victim of cyber theft and attacks and a staunch defender of cybersecurity," a spokesperson said.

Why am I not surprised, China's typical response, making the allegation their allegation.
Fraudulently obtaining 15% of Dathcom followed by accusing AVZ being the bloody culprits.

I really wonder how much they paid in bribes.
 
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What ? Bro they can’t keep printing their way out of debt, Covid printing alone there’s no coming back from that let alone the major debt before hand..

Your kids great grandkids will be paying that off in taxes mate…

🧐 Unless you own a shit tonne of gold push the price up double or triple & sell it off and pay your debt ish ! Maybe 1/2 if your lucky depending on how much gold you sell to 🤔 China ? Slippery slope

GLTAH
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China has a huge debt problem in the trillions too.
 

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What ? Bro they can’t keep printing their way out of debt, Covid printing alone there’s no coming back from that let alone the major debt before hand..

Your kids great grandkids will be paying that off in taxes mate…

🧐 Unless you own a shit tonne of gold push the price up double or triple & sell it off and pay your debt ish ! Maybe 1/2 if your lucky depending on how much gold you sell to 🤔 China ? Slippery slope

GLTAH
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Well LTH’s & Sufferers …Today we celebrate 55 weeks in suspension
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Content warning - boring shit below.

For those economically minded, the DRC runs an annual budget deficit, and is a net importer of funds to meet its spending and debt obligations. According to the World Bank, the DRC fiscal deficit deteriorated from minus 0.8% of GDP (2021) to minus 2.7% (2022). The 2023 budget deficit is expected to approximate 1.5% of GDP.

The World Bank's Doing Business report (2020) ranked the DRC at 183 out of 190 economies.

If Zijin and its acolytes stopped under-reporting the amount of mineral ore extracted, stopped selling extracted minerals to their Chinese partners at cheap rates, paid their fair share of tax, paid their Congolese workers properly, stopped bribing officials to get around environmental and workforce regulations, and generally made a positive contribution to local society, then maybe Felix would not need to go to China with a begging bowl.

Oh, and if AVZ eventually takes the DRC govt to the ICC in order to get justice and claim damages for the illegal loss of Manono, this is one way the DRC may meet its multi-billion dollar ticket:


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Update of the Chinese contract: the DRC and China in discussions in Beijing

The updating of the "Chinese contract", signed in 2008 by the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and China, was on the menu of exchanges in Beijing, between the Congolese delegation and the Chinese party, learned the ACP from Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

"After fifteen years of Chinese contracts, they must be updated, comply with the requirements and development needs of the DRC, taking into account the challenges of the moment", reported the source, explaining in essence the subject of the day's discussions between the two parties led respectively by the Deputy Prime Minister of Foreign Affairs, Christophe Lutundula, and the head of the Chinese “National Reform and Development Commission”, Zheng Shanjie.

Zheng Shanjie promised to sensitize Chinese companies already in the DRC in the mining sector, such as TFM and SICOMINES, on the scrupulous respect of Congolese laws. :unsure:

“All these contracts will be subject to the memorandum that the two Chinese and Congolese Heads of State will sign one of these mornings for this new dimension of cooperation”, explained the Congolese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

In addition, files on diplomacy, the environment, finance, infrastructure, mining and digital technology have also been put on the table, so that the objectives guiding this cooperation respond to the context, both national and internationally, we said.

A delegation of six members of the Congolese government accompanied Deputy Prime Minister Christophe Lutundula during these exchanges with the Chinese side.

The DRC for the review of the contract

During the Council of Ministers, held in March 2023, the President of the Republic had mentioned "the imperative need to revisit the agreement signed between the DRC and the Group of Chinese companies (GEC) in April 2008".

Felix Tshisekedi, said so after taking note of the conclusions of the audit carried out by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on the execution of this Agreement. (y)

According to the IGF, this contract, which had raised a lot of hope at the time, did not keep its promise: that of providing the DRC with a range of the most modern infrastructures.

In 2008, the Agreement signed provided that the group of Chinese companies (GEC) would provide approximately 6 billion USD to finance the infrastructures.

In return, the DRC offered its minerals, mainly cobalt and copper, with an estimated value of 10 million tonnes per year.

To carry out this project, a joint venture called SICOMINES was created.

Despite some readjustments to the initial contract, the rate of completion of infrastructure under this Agreement remains very low.

It is even disillusionment, according to the IGF. (y)

Indeed, only one hospital was built out of the 32 expected. :oops:

Kavumu airport and Goma airport have not been rehabilitated as promised. :(

Around 380 km of roads have been built or rehabilitated out of the 7088 km planned. :rolleyes:

Finally, no km of railway was built out of the 380 listed. :eek:

In the energy sector, the work of the Katende hydroelectric dam in Kasai is struggling to be finalized, revealed the audit of the General Inspectorate of Finance. :rolleyes:

For his part, the Chinese ambassador stationed in the DRC, Zhu Jing, had estimated that this contract is not "win-lose" as attested by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) but rather win-win with regard to data available to the Chinese side. :ROFLMAO:


“Chinese companies do not have the right to say such and such an infrastructure project will be carried out…

All infrastructure projects are decided and proposed by the Congolese government.

The list in question (Editor's note around thirty hospitals, the 3000 km of railway, the Rehabilitation of Kavumu airports,) is not a list of commitments, it is rather a pool of projects that the Congolese government plans to do,” said the Chinese diplomat. :unsure:

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Update of the Chinese contract: the DRC and China in discussions in Beijing

The updating of the "Chinese contract", signed in 2008 by the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and China, was on the menu of exchanges in Beijing, between the Congolese delegation and the Chinese party, learned the ACP from Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

"After fifteen years of Chinese contracts, they must be updated, comply with the requirements and development needs of the DRC, taking into account the challenges of the moment", reported the source, explaining in essence the subject of the day's discussions between the two parties led respectively by the Deputy Prime Minister of Foreign Affairs, Christophe Lutundula, and the head of the Chinese “National Reform and Development Commission”, Zheng Shanjie.

Zheng Shanjie promised to sensitize Chinese companies already in the DRC in the mining sector, such as TFM and SICOMINES, on the scrupulous respect of Congolese laws. :unsure:

“All these contracts will be subject to the memorandum that the two Chinese and Congolese Heads of State will sign one of these mornings for this new dimension of cooperation”, explained the Congolese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

In addition, files on diplomacy, the environment, finance, infrastructure, mining and digital technology have also been put on the table, so that the objectives guiding this cooperation respond to the context, both national and internationally, we said.

A delegation of six members of the Congolese government accompanied Deputy Prime Minister Christophe Lutundula during these exchanges with the Chinese side.

The DRC for the review of the contract

During the Council of Ministers, held in March 2023, the President of the Republic had mentioned "the imperative need to revisit the agreement signed between the DRC and the Group of Chinese companies (GEC) in April 2008".

Felix Tshisekedi, said so after taking note of the conclusions of the audit carried out by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on the execution of this Agreement. (y)

According to the IGF, this contract, which had raised a lot of hope at the time, did not keep its promise: that of providing the DRC with a range of the most modern infrastructures.

In 2008, the Agreement signed provided that the group of Chinese companies (GEC) would provide approximately 6 billion USD to finance the infrastructures.

In return, the DRC offered its minerals, mainly cobalt and copper, with an estimated value of 10 million tonnes per year.

To carry out this project, a joint venture called SICOMINES was created.

Despite some readjustments to the initial contract, the rate of completion of infrastructure under this Agreement remains very low.

It is even disillusionment, according to the IGF. (y)

Indeed, only one hospital was built out of the 32 expected. :oops:

Kavumu airport and Goma airport have not been rehabilitated as promised. :(

Around 380 km of roads have been built or rehabilitated out of the 7088 km planned. :rolleyes:

Finally, no km of railway was built out of the 380 listed. :eek:

In the energy sector, the work of the Katende hydroelectric dam in Kasai is struggling to be finalized, revealed the audit of the General Inspectorate of Finance. :rolleyes:

For his part, the Chinese ambassador stationed in the DRC, Zhu Jing, had estimated that this contract is not "win-lose" as attested by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) but rather win-win with regard to data available to the Chinese side. :ROFLMAO:


“Chinese companies do not have the right to say such and such an infrastructure project will be carried out…

All infrastructure projects are decided and proposed by the Congolese government.

The list in question (Editor's note around thirty hospitals, the 3000 km of railway, the Rehabilitation of Kavumu airports,) is not a list of commitments, it is rather a pool of projects that the Congolese government plans to do,” said the Chinese diplomat. :unsure:

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What ? Bro they can’t keep printing their way out of debt, Covid printing alone there’s no coming back from that let alone the major debt before hand..

Your kids great grandkids will be paying that off in taxes mate…

🧐 Unless you own a shit tonne of gold push the price up double or triple & sell it off and pay your debt ish ! Maybe 1/2 if your lucky depending on how much gold you sell to 🤔 China ? Slippery slope

GLTAH
Correct, just kicking the can down the road. They will raise the ceiling and in 12 months they will reach the ceiling again. Imagine if you did that with your household budget. It has to begin to come down at some point otherwise there will be no alternative other than to default. May not happen in my lifetime but it has to happen.
 
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Chinese takeaways?

Only thing I know, things are happening, best thing is to wait and see without palpitations until such time things are clear.

If required then spit the dummy, otherwise you gotta pick the bloody thing from the ground every 5 seconds and wash it before re-applying.

Looks like 13359 is not split anymore, which is great news if it means no 3rd parties fukkin around on the lease.
What ? Bro they can’t keep printing their way out of debt, Covid printing alone there’s no coming back from that let alone the major debt before hand..

Your kids great grandkids will be paying that off in taxes mate…

🧐 Unless you own a shit tonne of gold push the price up double or triple & sell it off and pay your debt ish ! Maybe 1/2 if your lucky depending on how much gold you sell to 🤔 China ? Slippery slope

Not exactly AVZ related but interesting stuff.
That was on the cards awhile back. China's debt level is extremely high, in the trillions plus their manufacturing base is shrinking as a result of demographics. China under the CCP faces a lot of headwinds.
 

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Correct, just kicking the can down the road. They will raise the ceiling and in 12 months they will reach the ceiling again. Imagine if you did that with your household budget. It has to begin to come down at some point otherwise there will be no alternative other than to default. May not happen in my lifetime but it has to happen.
If you're gonna get off-topic, at least be accurate about it.

Debt-ceiling raising is to pay for things Congress has already approved to spend money on - ie the can has already been kicked. They still have to chase after it (raise ceiling) but then they can decide not to kick it again ( reduce debt spending).

Also national monetary/fiscal policy is NOTHING like a household budget and any analogy comparing to such is deliberately trying to mislead people. Have you ever tried telling your bank that YOU are going to decide interest rates now to suit your household budget? Or telling you employer that you have just redone your household budget and decided they have to give you more money now? Or when did you decide your household budget needed more liquidity so you were going to create some more money? Or tell your kids you were cutting their pocket money because it was causing household inflation? Or when did you use your household budget to invest in infrastructure to make your household more productive?

Comparing national finances to household budgets is only ever done to mislead people about the way national finances work in an effort to get them to support less spending. Household budgets operate at the very bottom level of a system. National monetary/fiscal policy IS the system. Comparing them is like saying me sharing my fries at McDonald's is equivalent to running a fast food chain.
 
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Chinese Miner Zijin Vows to Continue Huge Lithium Buying Spree​

December 1, 2022

Zijin has spent $16 billion buying three lithium mines over the past year, but its president says the group aims to become one of the top three to five mining companies in the world by 2030​

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The company logo of Zijin Mining Group, China's biggest listed gold producer, is seen at a press conference in Hong Kong. Reuters file photo.

The head of China’s Zijin Mining Group has vowed to invest heavily in the EV metals sector, but conceded that lithium prices could halve over the next three years from the record levels they are now at.
Zou Laichang, who is president of Zijin – China’s top gold miner and a leading producer of copper, spoke at the Reuters Next conference currently being held in New York.
Zijin has spent $16 billion buying three lithium mines over the past year, making it one of the world’s top 10 producers of the battery metal.
But the flurry of deals comes amid warnings that lithium prices, driven to records by rapid growth in electric vehicles, may peak next year because of a looming supply glut.
“Zijin aims to become one of the top three to five mining companies in the world by 2030. To do that, we need a new growth driver on top of our gold, copper and zinc sectors,” Zou said.
“New energy and new materials are the key strategic path for us to achieve this goal.”
Zijin’s recent purchases include Canada’s Neo Lithium Corp, a company focused on lithium mining in Argentina, bought for C$920 million ($690 million) in a deal completed in January and giving it access to the Tres Quebradas (3Q) project.
It also bought majority stakes in the Lakkor Tso Lithium Salar mine in China’s Tibet region and the Xiangyuan lithium mine in Hunan province.
Zou said more investments are planned, but gave no details on how much the company plans to spend. Zijin has a market capitalisation of about $35 billion and had a net profit of 15.7 billion yuan ($2.2 billion) last year.

 
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If you're gonna get off-topic, at least be accurate about it.

Debt-ceiling raising is to pay for things Congress has already approved to spend money on - ie the can has already been kicked. They still have to chase after it (raise ceiling) but then they can decide not to kick it again ( reduce debt spending).

Also national monetary/fiscal policy is NOTHING like a household budget and any analogy comparing to such is deliberately trying to mislead people. Have you ever tried telling your bank that YOU are going to decide interest rates now to suit your household budget? Or telling you employer that you have just redone your household budget and decided they have to give you more money now? Or when did you decide your household budget needed more liquidity so you were going to create some more money? Or tell your kids you were cutting their pocket money because it was causing household inflation? Or when did you use your household budget to invest in infrastructure to make your household more productive?

Comparing national finances to household budgets is only ever done to mislead people about the way national finances work in an effort to get them to support less spending. Household budgets operate at the very bottom level of a system. National monetary/fiscal policy IS the system. Comparing them is like saying me sharing my fries at McDonald's is equivalent to running a fast food chain.
USA total debt is 31.5 trillion dollars, USA GDP to debt ratio is 96% and rising, USA annual GDP is 23 trillion.......USA is falling down a rabbit hole if it doesn't get a grip and reduce that gdp / debt ratio, especially if a recession is on the horizon.

As a comparison, China gdp / debt is a whopping 280%, ......:eek::eek:

Global gdp / debt is even worse 380%...wtf?

Aust gdp / debt is 22%.......we are cool

The analogy of comparing those stats with average folk household budgets is very apt, cause if we as normal folk are that fucking cavalier / irresponsible as opposed to overseas governments, then we would be bankrupt and screwed, governments just raise the over draft.

Alot of experts believe a recession is on the horizon, possibly Next year, if that being the case, then global markets will experience contagion.

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Update of the Chinese contract: the DRC and China in discussions in Beijing

The updating of the "Chinese contract", signed in 2008 by the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and China, was on the menu of exchanges in Beijing, between the Congolese delegation and the Chinese party, learned the ACP from Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

"After fifteen years of Chinese contracts, they must be updated, comply with the requirements and development needs of the DRC, taking into account the challenges of the moment", reported the source, explaining in essence the subject of the day's discussions between the two parties led respectively by the Deputy Prime Minister of Foreign Affairs, Christophe Lutundula, and the head of the Chinese “National Reform and Development Commission”, Zheng Shanjie.

Zheng Shanjie promised to sensitize Chinese companies already in the DRC in the mining sector, such as TFM and SICOMINES, on the scrupulous respect of Congolese laws. :unsure:

“All these contracts will be subject to the memorandum that the two Chinese and Congolese Heads of State will sign one of these mornings for this new dimension of cooperation”, explained the Congolese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

In addition, files on diplomacy, the environment, finance, infrastructure, mining and digital technology have also been put on the table, so that the objectives guiding this cooperation respond to the context, both national and internationally, we said.

A delegation of six members of the Congolese government accompanied Deputy Prime Minister Christophe Lutundula during these exchanges with the Chinese side.

The DRC for the review of the contract

During the Council of Ministers, held in March 2023, the President of the Republic had mentioned "the imperative need to revisit the agreement signed between the DRC and the Group of Chinese companies (GEC) in April 2008".

Felix Tshisekedi, said so after taking note of the conclusions of the audit carried out by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on the execution of this Agreement. (y)

According to the IGF, this contract, which had raised a lot of hope at the time, did not keep its promise: that of providing the DRC with a range of the most modern infrastructures.

In 2008, the Agreement signed provided that the group of Chinese companies (GEC) would provide approximately 6 billion USD to finance the infrastructures.

In return, the DRC offered its minerals, mainly cobalt and copper, with an estimated value of 10 million tonnes per year.

To carry out this project, a joint venture called SICOMINES was created.

Despite some readjustments to the initial contract, the rate of completion of infrastructure under this Agreement remains very low.

It is even disillusionment, according to the IGF. (y)

Indeed, only one hospital was built out of the 32 expected. :oops:

Kavumu airport and Goma airport have not been rehabilitated as promised. :(

Around 380 km of roads have been built or rehabilitated out of the 7088 km planned. :rolleyes:

Finally, no km of railway was built out of the 380 listed. :eek:

In the energy sector, the work of the Katende hydroelectric dam in Kasai is struggling to be finalized, revealed the audit of the General Inspectorate of Finance. :rolleyes:

For his part, the Chinese ambassador stationed in the DRC, Zhu Jing, had estimated that this contract is not "win-lose" as attested by the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) but rather win-win with regard to data available to the Chinese side. :ROFLMAO:


“Chinese companies do not have the right to say such and such an infrastructure project will be carried out…

All infrastructure projects are decided and proposed by the Congolese government.

The list in question (Editor's note around thirty hospitals, the 3000 km of railway, the Rehabilitation of Kavumu airports,) is not a list of commitments, it is rather a pool of projects that the Congolese government plans to do,” said the Chinese diplomat. :unsure:

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"In addition, files on diplomacy, the environment, finance, infrastructure, mining and digital technology have also been put on the table, so that the objectives guiding this cooperation respond to the context, both national and internationally, we said"

As @cruiser51 post referred.... Who in their right mind would allow China to build the digital technology in the DCR, it's bad enough with their hackers all ready attacking other African nations. Just had a look at the CAMI website and they have been fucking around with the tenement again, not just now saying 100% owned by Cominiere, the tenement also appears to have changed shape.

Anyone interested in contacting politicians could try Kevin Rudd. He speaks Chinese and is speaking at the Battery Gigafactories Event in Washington next week. The Deputy Premier of WA is also speaking there.


Battery Gigafactories USA 2023 Event

When:
8-9 June 2023
Where: JW Marriott Washington DC, USA

This event brings together high level policy makers, energy industry leaders, automotive OEMs, battery gigafactory operators, financial institutions and the global supply chain for lithium ion batteries.

Confirmed Speakers Include:

CEO, Benchmark Mineral Intelligence

Simon Moores,

US Department of Energy:
Jigar Shah, Director, Loan Programs Office

The White House National Economic Council:
Alex Jacquez, Special Assistant to the President for Economic Development and Industrial Strategy

Ambassador, Embassy of Australia to the United States
Hon Dr. Kevin Rudd

President and Chair of the Board of Directors, Export-Import Bank of the United States
Reta Jo Lewis

U.S. Department of State: Deputy Special Presidential Coordinator - Global Infrastructure Investment
Helaina Matza

Deputy Assistant Secretary for Energy Transformation, U.S. Department of State
Anna Shpitsberg

Deputy Premier, Minister for State Development,
Government of Western Australia
Hon Roger Cook


@BEISHA .... "we as normal folk are that fucking cavalier"

For a minute there I thought you said "we normal folk are eating caviar".... Just looking for some humour anywhere I can get it BEISH

Times are hard when @John25 didn't even get to have his vegan sausage sizzle, might be because @Nellie17 had a better offer

Now don't you call me dickbrain Nells.... You know I'm just looking for humour until we either get the ML or you guys have that bridge run ;)
 
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Chinese Miner Zijin Vows to Continue Huge Lithium Buying Spree​

December 1, 2022

Zijin has spent $16 billion buying three lithium mines over the past year, but its president says the group aims to become one of the top three to five mining companies in the world by 2030​

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The company logo of Zijin Mining Group, China's biggest listed gold producer, is seen at a press conference in Hong Kong. Reuters file photo.

The head of China’s Zijin Mining Group has vowed to invest heavily in the EV metals sector, but conceded that lithium prices could halve over the next three years from the record levels they are now at.
Zou Laichang, who is president of Zijin – China’s top gold miner and a leading producer of copper, spoke at the Reuters Next conference currently being held in New York.
Zijin has spent $16 billion buying three lithium mines over the past year, making it one of the world’s top 10 producers of the battery metal.
But the flurry of deals comes amid warnings that lithium prices, driven to records by rapid growth in electric vehicles, may peak next year because of a looming supply glut.
“Zijin aims to become one of the top three to five mining companies in the world by 2030. To do that, we need a new growth driver on top of our gold, copper and zinc sectors,” Zou said.
“New energy and new materials are the key strategic path for us to achieve this goal.”
Zijin’s recent purchases include Canada’s Neo Lithium Corp, a company focused on lithium mining in Argentina, bought for C$920 million ($690 million) in a deal completed in January and giving it access to the Tres Quebradas (3Q) project.
It also bought majority stakes in the Lakkor Tso Lithium Salar mine in China’s Tibet region and the Xiangyuan lithium mine in Hunan province.
Zou said more investments are planned, but gave no details on how much the company plans to spend. Zijin has a market capitalisation of about $35 billion and had a net profit of 15.7 billion yuan ($2.2 billion) last year.


I wouldn't mind if Z went on a buying spree, rather than theft.
 
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Correct, just kicking the can down the road. They will raise the ceiling and in 12 months they will reach the ceiling again. Imagine if you did that with your household budget. It has to begin to come down at some point otherwise there will be no alternative other than to default. May not happen in my lifetime but it has to happen.
Households are not the issuers of currencies like (most) governments are, so comparisons of government debt to household debt don‘t really hold water.

If you’re open for having your mind bent/changed, have a read up about Modern Monetory Theory: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/primer-on-modern-monetary-theory.pdf

if you want to go the whole 9 yards, I thoroughly recommend this:
 
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