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AVZ Discussion 2022
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The personality name etc. chosen for the AI which assesses any content on this forum in accordance with the rules, once it has been reported, was something that was voted for by the forum members who took part in that process some time ago.
I suppose you may see the humour if you imagine the bot is typically only assessing posts written by trolls.
The simple thing I have to say is that there are rules here. There are no sides taken when assessing the rules, otherwise this would be a biased process. The rules are pretty straight forward and when followed the AI will take no issue.
If this is something you cannot reconcile - that is, unbiased moderation and even application of rules - then I suggest you have misunderstood the point of difference of this forum. Typically, it is biased moderation that people run from and arrive here to get away from.
Chase
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Hit the nail on the head wino
Just received this from ZB, which concludes our discussion:
"Just a note - the rules are 100% consistently applied however only posts which are “reported” using the report function are assessed. This is 99% the reason behind any appearance of a lack of application of the rules. People don’t report them first…
Have a nice day also."
So yes, there is a deliberate and concerted policy of reporting posts in order to disrupt.
So be careful what you post and play the same game with the trolls. Report
However, what is more interesting to me is why this has all begun/escalated in the last week or so?
Trolls or their employers getting VERRRRRY worried methinks.
"Just a note - the rules are 100% consistently applied however only posts which are “reported” using the report function are assessed. This is 99% the reason behind any appearance of a lack of application of the rules. People don’t report them first…
Have a nice day also."
So yes, there is a deliberate and concerted policy of reporting posts in order to disrupt.
So be careful what you post and play the same game with the trolls. Report
However, what is more interesting to me is why this has all begun/escalated in the last week or so?
Trolls or their employers getting VERRRRRY worried methinks.
TDITD
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I second this @zeeb0t
Here is 2c worth
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AVZ is on the road to victory and it's p1ssing some people off .
Me thinks Zijin has indicated their TO offer to AVZ. AVZ had refused to come to their table or participate in any discussions with them hence the most recent ICC request.
Agree totally
Take over I do not think so .
More stalling tactics in my view .
So that AVZ run out of funds.
The problem is ZIJIN know they will be exposed for the fraudlent actions and the right of first refusal not been followed.
ICC ruling will clear the path for FT to take action IMO without any negative impact to him and up coming election .
"I am following the law the DRC is a good place to invest in "???.
Azzler
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Though it seems likely stalling shenannigans with this latest ICC action.
I still cant stop comming back to the commentary on the latest announcement.
Seemingly irrelevant (to the announcement of the ICC action) commentary by the company.
"whilst no substantive quantification as to the merits and the quantum of the
damages claim is provided in the Request, it appears on face value that the
amount of the damages claims is based on Jin Cheng holding a 15% interest
and Cominière a 10% interest in Dathcom, thus suggesting that the Claimants
are valuing the entirety of the Manono Project at US$5.66 billion;"
Stating it's not explained what the damages are for, is relevant.
But going on to point out the $ values have a relation to the claimed ownership of C and Z.
And going on to point out that it's in relation to what they value the entire company at.
It's not just some commentary or speculation made off hand in an interview, it's in an official announcement.
To me, AVZ are telling us they are suing for their claimed ownership in the entire project,
I can't think of a circumstance where anyone would do that if they hadn't lost their claimed ownership.
So much of it doesn't make sense, which to me means there's information yet to be released.
Apparently we're expecting an announcement this week, lets hope it's got something good for us
and clears some things up.
I still cant stop comming back to the commentary on the latest announcement.
Seemingly irrelevant (to the announcement of the ICC action) commentary by the company.
"whilst no substantive quantification as to the merits and the quantum of the
damages claim is provided in the Request, it appears on face value that the
amount of the damages claims is based on Jin Cheng holding a 15% interest
and Cominière a 10% interest in Dathcom, thus suggesting that the Claimants
are valuing the entirety of the Manono Project at US$5.66 billion;"
Stating it's not explained what the damages are for, is relevant.
But going on to point out the $ values have a relation to the claimed ownership of C and Z.
And going on to point out that it's in relation to what they value the entire company at.
It's not just some commentary or speculation made off hand in an interview, it's in an official announcement.
To me, AVZ are telling us they are suing for their claimed ownership in the entire project,
I can't think of a circumstance where anyone would do that if they hadn't lost their claimed ownership.
So much of it doesn't make sense, which to me means there's information yet to be released.
Apparently we're expecting an announcement this week, lets hope it's got something good for us
and clears some things up.
Stalling tactics? Purchased for $33million and now demanding $800million for doing nothing? There is definitely more to that then simply stalling one would think.
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Either El Presidente is knee deep in the corruption or he's biding his time/awaiting further developments, for whatever reason(s) before he sorts this scheisse.
I firmly believe that if the former, then it will not preclude him taking action and then buying a rather large carpet and a brush.
One thing that is clear, particularly with the international attention related to the importance of lithium, is that if AVZ was gonna be totally screwed over then it would already have happened.
It's sort of too late to do that if DRC does not want to become a Chinese satellite due to the western criticism and rejection that would inevitably follow.
It has not occured and so I think we'll come out of this well.
Just not sure how well.
It seems though that BoD is playing hardball and always has. Onya
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Hear, hear.
After being moderated several times, had a private talk with Zeeb0t and mentioned the influx of new posters with multiple accounts.
Stopped posting until the desperate arseholes leave, one way or the other way.
Zeeb0t has the tools to flush out the arseholes, at the end he is the owner of this forum.
If this forum is being abused and the abuse not corrected, the attractiveness of this forum disappears and just becomes another forum, infiltrated by people with alternative motives.
I hope the crap will stop, but in the meantime, it is excellent weather to go out fishing.
John Reed
Regular
Something that takes 15 minutes to legally resolve, adjudicate on ownership based on contracts, is taking 350+ days to get to.
This control over managment is exactly what Cominiere are ignoring and bristling against and was effected more so by Yibin Tianyi’s CPs for investing in AVZ. Cominiere are seeing mouth watering sums and little of it for them as Cong and KabIla wedged in. Perhaps another CP should have been Yibin looks after charity.
If you recall Graeme Johnson’s letters to a cominiere employee (Fwamba posted), reminding him of the company structure @9cardomaha , it can be inferred Cominiere just doesn’t understand or care about the rules.
It’s also a cultural thing, the Francophone way of doing business. Hence the guy who hangs out at Monaco was always the lubricator with his alleged “legalised corruption” concept.
This control over managment is exactly what Cominiere are ignoring and bristling against and was effected more so by Yibin Tianyi’s CPs for investing in AVZ. Cominiere are seeing mouth watering sums and little of it for them as Cong and KabIla wedged in. Perhaps another CP should have been Yibin looks after charity.
If you recall Graeme Johnson’s letters to a cominiere employee (Fwamba posted), reminding him of the company structure @9cardomaha , it can be inferred Cominiere just doesn’t understand or care about the rules.
It’s also a cultural thing, the Francophone way of doing business. Hence the guy who hangs out at Monaco was always the lubricator with his alleged “legalised corruption” concept.
Wow Comminiere getting absolutely roasted on Twitter. Trying to defame AVZ and posters coming back with documents directly calling out the BS.
RHyNO
Regular
China are the economy. I’m sorry to say it looks pretty bleak for us with most of their economy relying entirely on Chinese export. And Felix is obviously on the take. This will not spin our way and our government will be arguing about wether we use the term indigenous or aboriginal when performing a welcome to country at a footy match.
John Reed
Regular
I would say a small coterie of individuals here believe they decide who is in and who is out and make it unsafe for people to interact with who ever they like because this coterie of self entitled are regularly bullying (what they want to say is “abrasive”) hence their claims of moderation suggest they might just be the trolls unwittingly.
Anyone who may be interested to contact me can do so direct messages, so that the paranoid types here don’t go on another campaign
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