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Samus

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22 Dec 19. Babcock hunts down shadowy tormentor. Submarine and warship repairer Babcock believes it has identified the anonymous analyst behind a damaging attack on the company. Babcock, one of the Ministry of Defence’s biggest suppliers, was blindsided in October last year when a previously unknown organisation, Boatman Capital Research, published a highly critical dossier.

The report claimed the company had “systematically misled investors by burying bad news about its performance”, and called for the departures of chief executive Archie Bethel and then chairman Mike Turner.

The 23-page attack wiped more than 5%, or £130m, from the company’s market value. Babcock published a rebuttal, claiming the report contained “many false and malicious statements”.

The board hired the investigative firm Kroll to trace the author. It is believed to have identified David Robertson, a former journalist at The Times who worked at the corporate intelligence firm K2 and now runs his own company.

Babcock is believed to have written to Robertson, 46, warning him to cease and desist, but is not thought to be taking further action.

Robertson, whose outfit, Thirteen Research, conducts corporate investigations, could not be contacted for comment. Babcock, now chaired by Ruth Cairnie, declined to comment.

The hunt for Boatman intensified in May after it issued another report, accusing the FTSE 250 firm of “underperformance and overcomplexity”. That report centred on Babcock’s military vehicles division, but did not hit the share price as hard.

The email address behind Boatman was initially traced to a company in Panama. There were various theories about the people involved, ranging from short-sellers — which profit from declines in a company’s share price — to the Russian state.

Babcock’s shares have bounced back strongly since the summer, rising more than 40%. They closed on Friday at 606.8p, valuing the business at about £3.1bn.

  • The Ministry of Defence has spent £7bn so far on its new class of Dreadnought submarine, which will be armed with nuclear missiles. FTSE 100 defence giant BAE Systems is building the submarines at Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, to replace the Royal Navy’s ageing Vanguard-class vessels, and says they will begin going into service in the early 2030s.
Officials revealed that £7bn of a total £41bn budget had so far been spent on the design, assessment and early construction. The four submarines will maintain the navy’s continuous at-sea deterrent.

(Source: The Sunday Times)
 
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Boatman?

THIRTEEN RESEARCH LTD
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ROBERTSON, David Edward

Correspondence address64 New Cavendish Street, London, United Kingdom, W1G 8TB
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DirectorDate of birthJuly 1973
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Fletch77

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22 Dec 19. Babcock hunts down shadowy tormentor. Submarine and warship repairer Babcock believes it has identified the anonymous analyst behind a damaging attack on the company. Babcock, one of the Ministry of Defence’s biggest suppliers, was blindsided in October last year when a previously unknown organisation, Boatman Capital Research, published a highly critical dossier.

The report claimed the company had “systematically misled investors by burying bad news about its performance”, and called for the departures of chief executive Archie Bethel and then chairman Mike Turner.

The 23-page attack wiped more than 5%, or £130m, from the company’s market value. Babcock published a rebuttal, claiming the report contained “many false and malicious statements”.

The board hired the investigative firm Kroll to trace the author. It is believed to have identified David Robertson, a former journalist at The Times who worked at the corporate intelligence firm K2 and now runs his own company.

Babcock is believed to have written to Robertson, 46, warning him to cease and desist, but is not thought to be taking further action.

Robertson, whose outfit, Thirteen Research, conducts corporate investigations, could not be contacted for comment. Babcock, now chaired by Ruth Cairnie, declined to comment.

The hunt for Boatman intensified in May after it issued another report, accusing the FTSE 250 firm of “underperformance and overcomplexity”. That report centred on Babcock’s military vehicles division, but did not hit the share price as hard.

The email address behind Boatman was initially traced to a company in Panama. There were various theories about the people involved, ranging from short-sellers — which profit from declines in a company’s share price — to the Russian state.

Babcock’s shares have bounced back strongly since the summer, rising more than 40%. They closed on Friday at 606.8p, valuing the business at about £3.1bn.

  • The Ministry of Defence has spent £7bn so far on its new class of Dreadnought submarine, which will be armed with nuclear missiles. FTSE 100 defence giant BAE Systems is building the submarines at Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, to replace the Royal Navy’s ageing Vanguard-class vessels, and says they will begin going into service in the early 2030s.
Officials revealed that £7bn of a total £41bn budget had so far been spent on the design, assessment and early construction. The four submarines will maintain the navy’s continuous at-sea deterrent.

(Source: The Sunday Times)
Excellent find there Sammael 👍🏻
 
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Wonder if there will be aome sort of update next week or we will be left in the dark!

Although we are majority holders in Dathcom whats the chances the chinese want it to stay that way!? Its a shit situation all round, Drc corruption, chinese influence and in relation to the decree it definitely should have been scrutinized before being released to the world, thats shot us in the foot for sure.

But here's hoping there's some way around all this bollocks!! ffs

Farken
 
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Sorry if I'm changing topic, first post!
An awsome article popped up on my news!!!!
Since gone.
"Under Bill & Billinda Gates foundation"
Directly related too the "our" Manono project.
Pro Avz in a non political way.
Big deal as these people have clout.
Let's go. Find it?
I'm just a broke down industrial sparky.
 

pow4ade

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I just read tommy’s full article…. at least I think that might be supposed to be the full article, only the original article by him had this photo attached

View attachment 29305

…. which we all know had nothing to do with Nigel Ferguson or Manono.

I’m just wondering if I am missing something here because it seems like he is attempting to cover up all his previous comments in the AFR of which I’m sure our lawyers have copies of.

And is he now suggesting that boatman is just a small corporate investigations service for hedge funds after the comments suggesting Marius is a corrupt middleman Nigel is using…. And how did he obtain information that was confidential?

These claims are so vile, sinister, and undermining of honest shareholders who have invested in AVZ that what really concerns me is richardson’s family.

I genuinely hope he comes to the attention of someone in an official legal capacity, or at the very least the Child Protection Agency because someone who clearly displays such questionable morals needs to be looked into when families are involved
That's a disgraceful insinuation and should be withdrawn. What the hell is up with you, sheesh.
 
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#MANONO and the #Tanganyika swear by
@AvzMinerals
and want the government to grant the EP obtained thanks to the efforts of
@MariusMihigo
to the Australians
🇦🇺
of $AVZ : "We say #Dathcom is good, we collaborate with them, we don't understand why the EP is late."

Manono #Lithoum The population, customary chiefs and civil society demand the granting of the Exploitation License to
@AvzMinerals
obtained by the diplomacy of
@MariusMihigo
. "WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT OF #TANGANYIKA WITH $AVZ
🇦🇺
and the Manono Lithium project"
 
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At the Council of Ministers this Friday, February 10, the Head of State did not return to the reshuffle that he himself announced in the two previous councils.
 
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At the Council of Ministers this Friday, February 10, the Head of State did not return to the reshuffle that he himself announced in the two previous councils.





You wanted the PR05
@fatshi13
to be repeated, the Chief said, wait for the orders which will be read shortly at the RTNC! Despite the fetishism of some ministers to maintain themselves, they left and that's it! Congratulations to the renewals! Good luck to the graduates!
 
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TDITD

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Wonder if there will be aome sort of update next week or we will be left in the dark!

Although we are majority holders in Dathcom whats the chances the chinese want it to stay that way!? Its a shit situation all round, Drc corruption, chinese influence and in relation to the decree it definitely should have been scrutinized before being released to the world, thats shot us in the foot for sure.

But here's hoping there's some way around all this bollocks!! ffs

Farken
Yep as if we are going to be majority holders in Dathcom, if we open the door for the devil (Zijin).
Many have said it before, it’s obvious.
A meeting with Felix is paramount, to update him on happenings, press him on his speeches and get his direction.
If he wants Zijin in imo we should sell, as it would be crazy to think Zijin after all they have done will be happy with a minority holding and no control in the worlds largest lithium mine, especially when they know they have the presidents blessing. They will find a way to fk us like they are doing now, probably before we even put one brick down in construction. IMO
 
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At the Council of Ministers this Friday, February 10, the Head of State did not return to the reshuffle that he himself announced in the two previous councils.

Bored Richard Hammond GIF by DriveTribe


Maybe we should email them saying ;

Zijin would like to know who they need to bribe next

I’m sure that would grease the wheels
 
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Yep as if we are going to be majority holders in Dathcom, if we open the door for the devil (Zijin).
Many have said it before, it’s obvious.
A meeting with Felix is paramount, to update him on happenings, press him on his speeches and get his direction.
If he wants Zijin in imo we should sell, as it would be crazy to think Zijin after all they have done will be happy with a minority holding and no control in the worlds largest lithium mine, especially when they know they have the presidents blessing. They will find a way to fk us like they are doing now, probably before we even put one brick down in construction. IMO
I said months ago on HC, the bad guys are not going away. We remove one hurdle and they put another one in front of us.
Entertain a sale. Negotiations and agreements don't mean much to the bad guys. There would not be any trust if we had to work together.
 
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Where’s Zeebot 😶‍🌫️

#MANONO and the #Tanganyika swear by
@AvzMinerals
and want the government to grant the EP obtained thanks to the efforts of
@MariusMihigo
to the Australians
🇦🇺
of $AVZ : "We say #Dathcom is good, we collaborate with them, we don't understand why the EP is late."

Manono #Lithoum The population, customary chiefs and civil society demand the granting of the Exploitation License to
@AvzMinerals
obtained by the diplomacy of
@MariusMihigo
. "WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT OF #TANGANYIKA WITH $AVZ
🇦🇺
and the Manono Lithium project"

Maybe Tommy should go visit and interview some of the locals?
 
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Maybe Tommy should go visit and interview some of the locals?
Can you imagine Tommy the tit in the DRC ..... on a date with Zoe 😂
 
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It was a genuine question, due to the fact that both Ch.9 and the AFR are owned by Fairfax, and therefore only a moron would suggest it as a real solution.
 
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It was a genuine question, due to the fact that both Ch.9 and the AFR are owned by Fairfax, and therefore only a moron would suggest it as a real solution.
At least they have now replaced the photo of the protest from their most recent article.
 
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#MANONO and the #Tanganyika swear by
@AvzMinerals
and want the government to grant the EP obtained thanks to the efforts of
@MariusMihigo
to the Australians
🇦🇺
of $AVZ : "We say #Dathcom is good, we collaborate with them, we don't understand why the EP is late."

Manono #Lithoum The population, customary chiefs and civil society demand the granting of the Exploitation License to
@AvzMinerals
obtained by the diplomacy of
@MariusMihigo
. "WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT OF #TANGANYIKA WITH $AVZ
🇦🇺
and the Manono Lithium project"

This is absolute gold. Votes on the line if you go against the wishes of the locals. AVZ representatives please go and be seen with these people and distribute photos to the whole world!!!
 
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Peterg

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It was a genuine question, due to the fact that both Ch.9 and the AFR are owned by Fairfax, and therefore only a moron would suggest it as a real solution.
Did I ever mention AFR or CH9. No! This was to 1 shed the light on AVZ, because BOD tell us nothing.
2 expose the DRC as still corrupt and let the world know not to deal with them.
 
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wombat74

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Wonder if there will be aome sort of update next week or we will be left in the dark!

Although we are majority holders in Dathcom whats the chances the chinese want it to stay that way!? Its a shit situation all round, Drc corruption, chinese influence and in relation to the decree it definitely should have been scrutinized before being released to the world, thats shot us in the foot for sure.

But here's hoping there's some way around all this bollocks!! ffs

Farken
I think once Zijin find out how much they can steal they will make AVZ an offer for the rest . The more they can steal the less they need to pay . At this point I think they could get their hands on at least 30% . Do they want AVZ with majority stake and in control ? I doubt it .
 
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This is absolute gold. Votes on the line if you go against the wishes of the locals. AVZ representatives please go and be seen with these people and distribute photos to the whole world!!!
Wouldn't hurt to hand over a school bus or something while they are there. If and a big if they get there. The Germans guy was there last week so plane's are obviously still able to fly there.
 
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