AVZ Discussion 2022

[wombat74]

By an large the IGF Report is a good read condemning the scum at Cominiere and also MOP, confidently painting them as criminals. Dathomir too receive a fairly solid kicking.

However the part about Dathomir selling 60% to AVZ which it says is illegal essentially after violations of the provisions of the JV contract, this did concern me a little at first read. But if taking the report in its entirety one would realise that the report is about crooks breaking the law for their own benefit and looting from the DRC. Its focused-on laws being broken and by who, we are just the customer who brought a raw tenement.

That raw untouched tenement (under their corrupt hands) AVZ have gone on to spend over $100 million on proving up the worlds largest lithium deposit.

AVZ/Dathcom are currently being blocked from continuing on with our progress in starting construction on the project itself. I have very little fears we will be punished for Dathomir and Cominieres complicity in ripping off the citizens of the DRC, however Dathomir and Cominiere wont fair so well......Simon Cong say hello to the pineapple !!!

So in that case it's not Zijin's fault either . Really it's just another can of worms that's been opened .

 

[TDITD]

So in that case it's not Zijin's fault either . Really it's just another can of worms that's been opened .

true from their perspective its not Zijins fault.

BUT our JV contract says we have first dibs, we weren't given it by Cominiere who this report shows to have been working complicitly to undermine the state in favour of snacks. If anything it hasn't opened another can, but helped us in showing Cominiere are pieces of corrupt shit who worked with Zijin to undermine Dathcom & AVZ

 

[Samus]

What a shame. Any other company announce 144m@1.75% and they’d be running down the street naked.
We just like meh

Doesn't even give me a soft-on.

 

[cruiser51]

 

[Winenut]

By an large the IGF Report is a good read condemning the scum at Cominiere and also MOP, confidently painting them as criminals. Dathomir too receive a fairly solid kicking.

However the part about Dathomir selling 60% to AVZ which it says is illegal essentially after violations of the provisions of the JV contract, this did concern me a little at first read. But if taking the report in its entirety one would realise that the report is about crooks breaking the law for their own benefit and looting from the DRC. Its focused-on laws being broken and by who, we are just the customer who brought a raw tenement.

That raw untouched tenement (under their corrupt hands) AVZ have gone on to spend over $100 million on proving up the worlds largest lithium deposit.

AVZ/Dathcom are currently being blocked from continuing on with our progress in starting construction on the project itself. I have very little fears we will be punished for Dathomir and Cominieres complicity in ripping off the citizens of the DRC, however Dathomir and Cominiere wont fair so well......Simon Cong say hello to the pineapple !!!

"However the part about Dathomir selling 60% to AVZ which it says is illegal essentially after violations of the provisions of the JV contract, this did concern me a little"

This is the part I am currently trying like shit to get my head around???

Are they saying in the report that the purchase of 60% by AVZ was in fact illegal in itself.....violating the terms of the Dathomir JV Contract

And then this posted by JAG

So is that 60% safe????

If so where has it subsequently been addressed and assessed as safe/not illegal???

I have to say it....it's been a while .....but this fucking circle-jerk is doing my head in!!!

 

[JAG]

 

[The Fox]

"However the part about Dathomir selling 60% to AVZ which it says is illegal essentially after violations of the provisions of the JV contract, this did concern me a little"

This is the part I am currently trying like shit to get my head around???

Are they saying in the report that the purchase of 60% by AVZ was in fact illegal in itself.....violating the terms of the Dathomir JV Contract

And then this posted by JAG
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So is that 60% safe????

If so where has it subsequently been addressed and assessed as safe/not illegal???

I have to say it....it's been a while .....but this fucking circle-jerk is doing my head in!!!

I'm going with the glass half full view of this section of the report.

Some relevant comments to share:

There is no statement that AVZ has done anything illegal. (and this was the case in the extracts of the full IGF report early this year as well)
It criticises Dathomir for selling shares when it should not have, yet the report does not state the transaction was illegal or void, but breaches an an article of the JV agreement, not the DRC mining code or they would have mentioned that.
The focus of the balance of this section in the report makes complaint about Dathimor not providing any input value yet taking large profits. (Something AVZ has not been accused of)
Others will have more information, however I recall the JV agreements / shareholder agreements with Cominiere being re-struck after the above event.
The sale of shares to AVZ from Dathomir is stated as a matter of fact, not a complaint on AVZ is my glass half full take.

Obviously the above section / sentence will cause some concern, yet there has been no dialog on reversing this transaction or reshuffling the deck (ownership) by the IGF in the body of the document or in the conclusion.

It would be helpful to have the full report in hand that was completed earlier in the year to correlate this summary and changes since. I hope Franck will share eventually.

What can be investigated further is something that was raised by another holder here, the reference to "article 16 point ( f )" may have been in earlier version of the JV/Shareholders agreement that was reportedly replaced in 2019 (I suspect), yet this is stretching my memory, I'm sure others can dig into more detail. Or correct me if my memory serves me wrong.

Cheers The Fox

 

[Retrobyte]

Today's ann says we've got a 4th drill rig on the job now. To me that's a huge indicator of confidence in what's coming.

 

[The Fox]

I'm going with the glass half full view of this section of the report.

Some relevant comments to share:

There is no statement that AVZ has done anything illegal. (and this was the case in the extracts of the full IGF report early this year as well)
It criticises Dathomir for selling shares when it should not have, yet the report does not state the transaction was illegal or void, but breaches an an article of the JV agreement, not the DRC mining code or they would have mentioned that.
The focus of the balance of this section in the report makes complaint about Dathimor not providing any input value yet taking large profits. (Something AVZ has not been accused of)
Others will have more information, however I recall the JV agreements / shareholder agreements with Cominiere being re-struck after the above event.
The sale of shares to AVZ from Dathomir is stated as a matter of fact, not a complaint on AVZ is my glass half full take.

Obviously the above section / sentence will cause some concern, yet there has been no dialog on reversing this transaction or reshuffling the deck (ownership) by the IGF in the body of the document or in the conclusion.

It would be helpful to have the full report in hand that was completed earlier in the year to correlate this summary and changes since. I hope Franck will share eventually.

What can be investigated further is something that was raised by another holder here, the reference to "article 16 point ( f )" may have been in earlier version of the JV/Shareholders agreement that was reportedly replaced in 2019 (I suspect), yet this is stretching my memory, I'm sure others can dig into more detail. Or correct me if my memory serves me wrong.

Cheers The Fox

PS. Thinking about this more, my personal opinion is there is no case for AVZ to answer even with regard to the article 16 point ( f ) item raised. If anything, Cominiere would have a case against Dathomir for selling shares to AVZ in return for project development and funding which happened, AVZ kept their end of the bargain up, and we all know the sale of shares from Dathomir to AVZ was done with support of Comimiere.

If the timeline is right, new JV/Shareholder agreements/company structure/ may have been completed sometime after that transaction anyway. (yet to fully confirm this, stretching my memory as I said, but makes sense.)

Cheers The Fox

 

[Retrobyte]

Get those ice cream scoops out - a 58m thick hit of world class grade just over 3m below the surface ........

 

[JAG]

Get those ice cream scoops out - a 58m thick hit of world class grade just over 3m below the surface ........



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[Bray]

Today's ann says we've got a 4th drill rig on the job now. To me that's a huge indicator of confidence in what's coming.

Diamond rigs usually run around 1 week per hole..

Trying to pump the results out prior to future trading

 

[wombat74]

I'm going with the glass half full view of this section of the report.

Some relevant comments to share:

There is no statement that AVZ has done anything illegal. (and this was the case in the extracts of the full IGF report early this year as well)
It criticises Dathomir for selling shares when it should not have, yet the report does not state the transaction was illegal or void, but breaches an an article of the JV agreement, not the DRC mining code or they would have mentioned that.
The focus of the balance of this section in the report makes complaint about Dathimor not providing any input value yet taking large profits. (Something AVZ has not been accused of)
Others will have more information, however I recall the JV agreements / shareholder agreements with Cominiere being re-struck after the above event.
The sale of shares to AVZ from Dathomir is stated as a matter of fact, not a complaint on AVZ is my glass half full take.

Obviously the above section / sentence will cause some concern, yet there has been no dialog on reversing this transaction or reshuffling the deck (ownership) by the IGF in the body of the document or in the conclusion.

It would be helpful to have the full report in hand that was completed earlier in the year to correlate this summary and changes since. I hope Franck will share eventually.

What can be investigated further is something that was raised by another holder here, the reference to "article 16 point ( f )" may have been in earlier version of the JV/Shareholders agreement that was reportedly replaced in 2019 (I suspect), yet this is stretching my memory, I'm sure others can dig into more detail. Or correct me if my memory serves me wrong.

Cheers The Fox

An easier solution would be if Nigel by way of someone like Deboss reach out and put SH minds at ease over this matter . Maybe another wink or a photo of a scrumptious lunch spread . Or better still just announce the gid damn ML .

 

[JAG]

 

[JAG]

 

[DoubleA]

The focus of the IGF report is clearly targeted towards the actions of Cominiere and Dathomir. I think overall things are moving in the right direction, albeit slowly.

 

[TDITD]

"However the part about Dathomir selling 60% to AVZ which it says is illegal essentially after violations of the provisions of the JV contract, this did concern me a little"

This is the part I am currently trying like shit to get my head around???

Are they saying in the report that the purchase of 60% by AVZ was in fact illegal in itself.....violating the terms of the Dathomir JV Contract

And then this posted by JAG
View attachment 23293

So is that 60% safe????

If so where has it subsequently been addressed and assessed as safe/not illegal???

I have to say it....it's been a while .....but this fucking circle-jerk is doing my head in!!!

Yes an that had me concered, but as has been stated to us several times our BOD have kept all communications and paper trails. Dathomir sold off to siphon off $$ from the DRC state in complicity with Cominiere....in contrast we have sunk into the DRC state over $100 million to prove up a monster deposit and a DFS with construction ready to go.

It would be absolute suicide businesswise for them to take it off of us, much more likely is a clean out of Cominiere and crooks, then the state of DRC continuing on with us as the project leader in good faith with a percentage in AVZ

 

[Samus]

This is all starting to sound like more time, more talking and more bullshit unfortunately.

 

[TDITD]

Today's ann says we've got a 4th drill rig on the job now. To me that's a huge indicator of confidence in what's coming.

I thought that too, fkin ell a fourth diamond drill rig..............yeah that'll be cheap.
I reckon these guys pretty much have what they need its just time b4 we find out.

Or they are recklessly wasting money to prove up more of what isn't even ours, yeah nah

 

[CashKing]

Haha some fucking drill results!

Fuck me @DiscoDanNZ you said you didn't record that shit...

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