AVZ Discussion 2022

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Heading to bed but interestingly the Dow futures are reasonably up...

Let's hope it's still that way in the morning

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EU approves effective ban on new fossil fuel cars from 2035

The European Union struck a deal on Thursday on a law to effectively ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2035, aiming to speed up the switch to electric vehicles and combat climate change.

Negotiators from the EU countries and the European Parliament, who must both approve new EU laws, as well as the European Commission, which drafts new laws, agreed that carmakers must achieve a 100% cut in CO2 emissions by 2035, which would make it impossible to sell new fossil fuel-powered vehicles in the 27-country bloc.

"This deal is good news for car drivers... new zero-emission cars will become cheaper, making them more affordable and more accessible to everyone," Parliament's lead negotiator Jan Huitema said.

EU climate policy chief Frans Timmermans said the agreement sent a strong signal to industry and consumers. "Europe is embracing the shift to zero-emission mobility," he said.

The deal also included a 55% cut in CO2 emissions for new cars sold from 2030 versus 2021 levels, much higher than the existing target of a 37.5% reduction by then.

New vans must comply with a 100% CO2 cut by 2035, and a 50% cut by 2030 compared with 2021 levels.

With regulators increasing the pressure on carmakers to curb their carbon footprint, many have announced investments in electrification. Volkswagen boss Thomas Schaefer this week said that from 2033, the brand will only produce electric cars in Europe.

Still, the EU law met some resistance when it was proposed in July 2021, with European car industry association ACEA warning against banning a specific technology and calling for internal combustion engines and hydrogen vehicles to play a role in the low-carbon transition.

Negotiators agreed on Thursday that the EU will draft a proposal on how cars that run on "CO2 neutral fuels" could be sold after 2035.

Small carmakers producing less than 10,000 vehicles per year can negotiate weaker targets until 2036, when they would face the zero-emission requirement.

The law is the first to be finalised from a broader package of new EU policies, designed to deliver the bloc's targets to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Brussels is seeking deals on two more laws from the package in time for the United Nations climate negotiations in November, in a bid to show that despite a looming recession and soaring energy prices, the bloc is pressing ahead with its climate goals.

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Africa’s electrifying its fossil-fuelled cars

Although the price of electric vehicles (EVs) puts them way out of the reach of many people around the world, some startups in Africa are up-cycling regular internal combustion engine vehicles to clean transmission and building battery-powered vehicles from scratch.

In May this year, Nigerian entrepreneur Mustapha Gajibo, who had been converting petrol minibuses into electric vehicles, announced plans to build solar battery-powered buses from scratch.

Gajibo, 30, a resident of Maiduguri in northeast Nigeria, said the geopolitical climate that has pumped up fuel prices would drive the uptake of electric vehicles in that market.

His startup is now building a 12-seater minibus that can cover up to 200km on a single charge, making it affordable to run and ideal for city commuting.

Gajibo’s early uptake of electric conversions and the publicity surrounding it has been a shot in the arm for the wider adoption of converted and electric vehicles.

Before Gajibo’s foray into the business, the emphasis was on converting diesel and petrol-propelled game-viewing vehicles into electric vehicles, because of size and design made it easy to install electric motors.

Fuelling the adoption of electric safari vehicles are luxury safari lodges operating in some of the continent’s premium safari destinations such as the Kruger National Park (South Africa), Maasai Mara National Reserve (Kenya), Serengeti National Park (Tanzania), Bwindi Impenetrable National Park (Uganda), Etosha (Namibia), Hwange (Zimbabwe), South Luangwa (Zambia) and the Okavango Delta (Botswana).

Startups in Kenya and South Africa are where most of the conversions of diesel and petrol Land Rovers or Toyota Land Cruisers are done.

It costs in the region of $25 000 to $45 000 to convert a vehicle.

Where possible, solar panels to capture further green energy are built into the roof of the vehicle.

Operators argue that despite the high cost, the return on investment makes it worthwhile, given the appeal to tourists of green, silent travel in the bush.

But with new affordable and lightweight EV conversion kits for cars and hybrid systems going for as low as $8 000 for smaller cars, the conversion of sedans is set to become a wider consumer trend.

Africa is already witnessing the expansion of EV charging networks in crucial markets, signalling greater adoption of clean mobility on the continent. Governments are seeing opportunities in this for job creation and have been dishing out licences to companies making conversions in South Africa, Kenya and Nigeria.

In 2020, the Kenya Bureau of Standards became one of the first state agencies to issue Knights Energy and Swedish-owned Opibus licences to convert tourism vans and buses to electric engines.

According to the government, EV conversion plans fit into Kenya’s National Climate Change Action Plan 2018-23, which identified operational inefficiencies in the transport sector, heavy traffic congestion and high fuel consumption as major contributors to high levels of carbon emissions.

For many entrepreneurs, however, it is simple arithmetic; if you can’t sell EVs new, then offer conversions. But there is one challenge — the growing scarcity of lithium-ion batteries.

That could change if states such as South Africa, the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and Zambia speed up plans to develop a lithium-ion battery value chain.

In May, Zambia and the DRC inked a deal to use some of the estimated 70% of the world’s cobalt reserves found on their territory for the local manufacture of batteries for electric vehicles.

Under the aegis of the Republic of Zambia and the DRC Battery Council, the two states plan to drive investments into battery manufacturing, hoping to drive local costs down and boost availability on the continent.

Plans are also afoot for South Africa’s government and industry to tap into electric vehicle components manufacturing, leveraging the country’s car manufacturing value chain.


In November 2017, energy storage and automotive component specialist Metair unveiled a programme to produce lithium-ion batteries across its operations in South Africa, Turkey and Romania.

Metair partnered with the South African Institute for Advanced Materials Chemistry at the University of the Western Cape, which houses the only pilot-scale lithium-ion battery cell assembly facility in Africa.

And last year, South Africa made a major proposal to encourage green transportation with an electric vehicle promotion policy, offering subsidies to manufacturers and buyers to drive up the supply and demand of EVs.

Released in May last year, the country’s e-mobility policy framework showed the state is planning significant fiscal incentives to spur the sale of new energy vehicles (NEVs).

In the proposed roadmap, South Africa will ramp up investment in the expansion and development of new and existing manufacturing plants to support the production of NEVs.

This includes producing electric vehicle components, with battery manufacturing a priority, according to the department of trade, Industry and competition.

African states plan to increase the share of the continent’s electric vehicle ownership to reduce emissions.

There are more than 10-million battery-powered vehicles on the road globally, with the number set to jump to 230-million by 2030, the International Energy Agency forecasts.

In August, 490 000 battery electric vehicles were sold in China, more than double the corresponding number in 2021 and accounting for the vast majority of new electric vehicle sales.


NEVs made up 30.1% of all new cars sold in China in August, according to the China Passenger Car Association.

For most countries, besides the zero-emission benefit, electric vehicles are cheaper to service than their petrol counterparts, with electricity being less expensive than fuel in most places.

Car sales in Africa are expected to more than double by 2040, driven by urbanisation and rising incomes.

A good proportion of those could be made up of electric vehicles.

Global management consulting firm McKinsey says the total cost of ownership of electric vehicles is more favourable than that of internal combustion engine vehicles in Africa, even in countries with fairly high electricity costs such as Kenya, suggesting that Africa is ready for an EV revolution.


Early entrants into electric vehicles, including smaller players like Gajibo, are also expected to drive investments in green mobility.

Electric mass-transit company Roam is to launch in Kenya this week as “the first-ever electric, mass transit bus operation” in that country.

Electric two-wheelers are expected to record faster growth than other vehicles, with Nigeria and Kenya witnessing a surge in demand for them.

According to a Research and Markets report, the global electric bus market size is projected to grow from 112 041 units in 2022 to reach 671 285 units by 2027, a constant average growth rate of 43.1%.

The advancements in battery pack technologies and electric powertrains are some of the factors driving the growth of the electric bus and coach market while many countries are focusing on electrification of their mass transit solutions, especially buses and coaches.

Factors such as a rise in pollution and environmental hazards, stringent government regulations and stiff competition have compelled vehicle manufacturers to make fuel-efficient and environment-friendly buses.

The nine-metre to 14m bus segment is projected to be the largest market during the forecast period in terms of volume, but that won’t slow Gajibo and others who are eyeing the potential of Africa’s enormous “micro” bus segment.



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Best realistic scenario:
Signing ceremony in DRC today for Collaboration Agreement & SEZ, then on plane back in time for Perth RS with those in hand and a credible way forward to ML and a please, please don't sell pitch.
Without any announcements to date, that's as low/high as I've set my expectations.

I'd much rather have the ML first, SEZ tax rebates/offsets are pointless if the ore is stuck in the ground while Zijin and Cong are feeding us the pineapple.

Collaboration agreement without ML just means we have friends to share the pine-appling with...

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April 22 paper re DRC battery manufacturing including the MSEZ - easier to read if you use the link.


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Boxes are getting ticked, there's good news circling us, but I for one am positive one minute, then concerned the next and the only people to blame for this is the AVZ executives and the BOD.

I think I have however solved the problem when it comes to deciding what to take to the Roadshows, some have mentioned pineapples, some baseball bats, may I suggest these.... A group discount could apply for orders of 10 or more

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Boxes are getting ticked, there's good news circling us, but I for one am positive one minute, then concerned the next and the only people to blame for this is the AVZ executives and the BOD.

I think I have however solved the problem when it comes to deciding what to take to the Roadshows, some have mentioned pineapples, some baseball bats, may I suggest these.... A group discount could apply for orders of 10 or more

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Or maybe some of these?

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Boxes are getting ticked, there's good news circling us, but I for one am positive one minute, then concerned the next and the only people to blame for this is the AVZ executives and the BOD.

I think I have however solved the problem when it comes to deciding what to take to the Roadshows, some have mentioned pineapples, some baseball bats, may I suggest these.... A group discount could apply for orders of 10 or more

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Hey MoneyBags can you go into more details about the positive ?
 
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In my desperation for news or any snippet of relevant info at all I am searching further than Google or Twitter :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:


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Hey MoneyBags can you go into more details about the positive ?

Well my friend, it’s a little bit like when I was positive about my match making of you and Nell’s. I was so hopeful…. and then it all went pineapple shape when you told us you were married. But then I was positive again because at least you two made up and are friends

See what I mean now!?
 
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Some "light" 🔥 entertainment while we all wait....

 
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Not long till market close

Will AVZ issue that pre-roadshow announcement after hours today???

Waiting Nige....waiting......

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Manono lithium is an asset for the DRC/Serge Ngandu: "We need a serene business climate where there is a mutual sharing of profits..."​

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CHRIS MUTOMBOseptembre 2, 2022
The conference bringing together the various stakeholders working in the mining sector, in the Manono lithium project, took place on Thursday, August 11, 2022, at the CEPAS center in Gombe. This moment of reflection by the various mining companies shareholders in the project, including L'AVZ, Cominière etc., was organized by the Episcopal Commission for Natural Resources of the National Episcopal Conference of Congo (CERN-CENCO), under the theme: "how can Manono lithium in the DRC contribute to the energy transition? Multi-party reflection on the sidelines of the pre COP27". Relying on the press, One of the speakers at the conference, Mr. Serge Ngandu of the AVZ, called for a serene business climate where there is a mutual sharing of benefits, without ignoring the Manono people who are honored for this exploitation.

"We need a serene business climate or there is a mutual sharing of profits. But the main thing in all this is the people of Manono who must benefit from this Manono lithium exploitation, "he made it clear. According to it, only the notification from the CAMI that hinders the implementation of the project. "The Minister of Mines has already signed the permit, and the permit is only signed after it has met three conditions, which are favorable cadastral life, favorable environmental life and favorable technical life. So, she did her job. The CAMI only has to notify and give us what to pay as a surface duty and we will start the project, "he said.

According to him, the DRC will find itself strongly economically once the project is launched. "We think, the way we developed the project, the State and Congo will end up definitively," he suggests, and adds, "because we thought we were in line with the minds of the Head of State, establishing a chain of value". According to him, the value chain will start from the mine. "We will produce a concentrate, and the concentrate will be refined to have added value. And around these activities, we will build an economic zone that will produce opportunities for local entrepreneurs, "he said.

It falls by making it known, apart from the economic advantages, this operation will benefit Manono from the electric current, which has been disconnected from the national electricity network for so long. " Manono being in a rural environment, not being connected to a national electricity network, but on site there is a dam that was destroyed, but that we want to renovate and the electricity will come from this dam to start activities. You can't start saving without electricity. So, the electricity that will come from Mpianamuanga will be used to start the mine and at the same time, will serve the community, "he added.

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You'd imagine if you all you had was a basic roadshow announcement you'd get it out now so people have time to be angry over the weekend and slightly cool down before roadshow?? Or maybe there's a big one on the way? God help them if it's a shitty announcement Monday morning! PINEAPPLEMAN will be a man on a mission!!
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Not long till market close

Will AVZ issue that pre-roadshow announcement after hours today???

Waiting Nige....waiting......

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Maybe Nige's silver lining is watching Boatman & Tommy's shorts burn over the weekend, maybe even to 4:01pm on Mon 31/10 ... then rolling the shit-storm clouds back with ML Ann +++ before the WA roadshow? I've always struggled for & looked for the glass half full 🤪
 
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Just a thought /suggestion - AVZ could put local DRC news /updates etc of the Manono Project, local interviews, articles etc. on their social media account(s). For eg. any news & updates not needed to be announced on the ASX, but of interest to their shareholders - especially during mine development etc. (PLS did this through their Instagram & Twitter accounts during mine development which was very well received by investors and other interested parties. It’s a shame to see the last post on the Twitter account was in July).


Close of ASX Trading on Monday (31st) is 2pm WA TIME. Roadshow commences at 5pm. That's a three hour gap to make any announcements
 
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Best realistic scenario:
Signing ceremony in DRC today for Collaboration Agreement & SEZ, then on plane back in time for Perth RS with those in hand and a credible way forward to ML and a please, please don't sell pitch.
Without any announcements to date, that's as low/high as I've set my expectations.

Best realistic scenario:
Signing ceremony in DRC today for Collaboration Agreement & SEZ, then on plane back in time for Perth RS with those in hand and a credible way forward to ML and a please, please don't sell pitch.
Without any announcements to date, that's as low/high as I've set my expectations.
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which will have us all......
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But ultimately I'm expecting BOD to give us .....

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Close of ASX Trading on Monday (31st) is 2pm WA TIME. Roadshow commences at 5pm. That's a three hour gap to make any announcements

Perth roadshow starts at 8pm Sydney time - so those of us on the east side will be maggoted while we sit around logged into TSE waiting for the westies to give us an update later that night
 
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Perth roadshow starts at 8pm Sydney time - so those of us on the east side will be maggoted while we sit around logged into TSE waiting for the westies to give us an update later that night
Luxury, fuck, it’ll be 10pm before it even starts for me. By the time you sandgropers have finished the canapés and Dom, I’ll be absolutely gaga
 
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Hi Jag, I trust you have updated to this model so we can all be at the Perth Roadshow?
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Don’t be surprised if Nigel is the one with the hat considering how we are going to pay for the remaining 15% from Cominiere.

The exec’s and BOD better start realising that the shareholders on this forum aren’t as gullible as they might think.

I’m trying to be positive and I want to be positive but it goes both ways Nigel. If the BOD and exec’s had chipped some of their own money in, holders like me and others might be more generous with our comments and less suspicious with our feelings
 
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