AVZ Discussion 2022

[Mouthpiecenomnom]

good morning my friends. is the kongopress tweet the first sign of the ML.

Been many false clues this year. I'm not holding my breath. Although kongopress is pretty legit right?

 

[ChrisU]

How’s that afr article!
Zijin Mining confidently looks forward to the ICC hearing in April 2023 and expects AVZ’s abuse of Zijin Mining’s 15 per cent stake in the Manono project as alleged will be addressed,” Zijin’s in-house legal counsel Sun Kuiyuan said on Thursday. “Zijin Mining is disappointed with AVZ’s lack of cooperation with the minority shareholders of the Manono project.

Why the fuck don’t management comment and push back on this! Sorry but this is a fucking joke. These proceedings have been in the works longer than we have known. Nigel has to open his mouth for something other than sucking down his fucking pay cheque and free shares

Nigel is afraid of a gaffe?

I’m sure he’d like to let rip.

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Nigel is afraid of a gaffe?

I’m sure he’d like to let rip.

I'm hopeful he'll be having the last laugh

 

[ChrisU]

Things have changed for the company since earlier in the year. There has been more than enough talking done by management prior to the suspension. It would be best if they focused on action in the DRC if they don't have important news to discuss at the roadshows.

There won’t be enough time for everything, granted. But, it works marvellously well if the company is talking about project parts including studies completed to ascertain the grain of their true direction. Favourite tactic of immigration officers, is to ask the long story to see if it falls apart.

 

[The Fox]

Been many false clues this year. I'm not holding my breath. Although kongopress is pretty legit right?

False clues......

Yes, many of which filtered down from AVZ management who's had little control of things these past 6 months. Obviously there has been a significant gap between what AVZ management expected to occur and when, compared to reality.

The articles published in Kongo Press are really one man's work, Kiki who appears independant. IMO he is doing a better job reporting current issues than AVZ management or Momentum put together. His early tweets are telling and show where he was getting up to speed on AVZ issues and then decided to be a voice on all matters Manono.

I doubt he is being sponsored by AVZ, yet he should be someone the company looks after in due course. Kiki would be an asset to AVZ over coming years as a press liaison officer or similar IMO. AVZ could do with a few more Kiki's.

Cheers The Fox

 

[Xerof]

So Foxy Baby, are they all on radio silence at the moment? Always a good sign if so.

I agree, Kiki Kongo has picked up our baton, although Franck has gone quiet.

I also saw bombersmadd is trying to stir the pot on the bird with some long bow connections. Idiot. Another good sign

 

[Flexi]

Frank, I notice there are no Rego plates on your TARDIS. I hope you will be applying for a 24 hour Registration permit before you start the journey.
Hold on....... my bad.....if you leave tomorrow and arrive Yesterday you wont need Registration plates.
Have a safe trip with boys.

 

[JAG]

False clues......

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Yes, many of which filtered down from AVZ management who's had little control of things these past 6 months. Obviously there has been a significant gap between what AVZ management expected to occur and when, compared to reality.

The articles published in Kongo Press are really one man's work, Kiki who appears independant. IMO he is doing a better job reporting current issues than AVZ management or Momentum put together. His early tweets are telling and show where he was getting up to speed on AVZ issues and then decided to be a voice on all matters Manono.

I doubt he is being sponsored by AVZ, yet he should be someone the company looks after in due course. Kiki would be an asset to AVZ over coming years as a press liaison officer or similar IMO. AVZ could do with a few more Kiki's.

Cheers The Fox

He is also going to employ a journalist based at Manono fulltime to report on progress as well as set up a Facebook page to get the Manono locals involved in the push for AVZ to mine.

 

[wombat74]

He is also going to employ a journalist based at Manono fulltime to report on progress as well as set up a Facebook page to get the Manono locals involved in the push for AVZ to mine.

Mate please tell me you are taking the p1ss about the facebook page ? If I fell for it I give you a double thumbs up.

 

[The Fox]

So Foxy Baby, are they all on radio silence at the moment? Always a good sign if so.

I agree, Kiki Kongo has picked up our baton, although Franck has gone quiet.

I also saw bombersmadd is trying to stir the pot on the bird with some long bow connections. Idiot. Another good sign

Lots of jungle drums beating in the Congo, I think we all hear most of them now thanks to Kiki and others. Not to mention AVZ being more on the front foot with sharing information etc. (Yet a little fuck’en late if you ask me)

Is Nigel warming up for a victory lap? Maybe. Very keen to hear the feedback from Perth meeting. Or read the AVZ announcements just prior.

To be honest I’m a little AVZ burnt out these days. Spent significant hours, days and weeks in the past trying to understand where things are at while communicating with as many connections as possible. All this has taken a toll, my motivation to seek out information at the moment is just about gone.

It is obvious things are coming to a head particularly with the Roadshows taking place. Since the first of these is within days, I’ll see what comes from the first meeting and if any motivation to dig around again returns thereafter.

AVZ management will have to step up and treat shareholders a little better IMO. Maybe all sins will be forgiven in the near future assuming all matters are sorted. I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the reasons for the Roadshows is to appeal or win over larger shareholders to avoid any trouble coming up from the ranks regarding non-disclosure and other claims.

I’m pretty angry at management, and I use that word loosely. It’s hard to see what they have done right or wrong with the lack of information they provided, as such it doesn’t pass the pub test or smell test IMO.

Granted if there are legal or important strategic reasons not to disclose things that’s fine, or at least understandable. Yet the company could have stated same to shareholders along the way and made the usual “unable to comment when matters are before the courts as to avoid prejudice etc, adversely affect AVZ legal position etc, rights or claims etc. Yet it was almost like let’s ignore it all and hope the disclosure issue goes away.

It’s all well and fine to say other parties are full of shit and spreading lies and that’s all we are going to say. But when things are in the courts, even a low level local court, this should be disclosed to shareholders and the market, right back in 2021 etc.

If everything was disclosed in real time the fight could have been taken public and all the groups that have supported AVZ could have mobilised earlier, including reporters, shareholders, civil society groups and there would have been more political pressure applied earlier rather then later. The IGF would have moved the court case to Kinshasa many months earlier. MoP caught out earlier, Zijin tail between the legs earlier. Cong with his hand out earlier.

The outcomes would likely be the same, just completed earlier. Would the SP have suffered a hit earlier, of course. Would it bounce back earlier yes.

Who ever provided the strategy to AVZ to keep your head down and let’s just tread quietly has been wrong. All this shit including Zijin should have been hit with a hammer on the head in real time, meetings called with Felix immediately, not one year after Zijin try to steal part of Manono.

Who has benefited from this saga dragging out??? AVZ advisors? Certainly not shareholders I can tell you that.

Anyway, rant over. I’ve been invited but not attending Roadshows, I don’t like being lied to and provided false information and I’ve had enough of that from Nigel.

Tempted to hand back my VIP membership to the AVZ Sunshine and Lollipops group, however that would be a step to far. I’ll just sulk a little longer then bounce back when we are through this current bullshit, that should have been sorted months ago.

Love and Peace, The Fox

 

[JAG]

Mate please tell me you are taking the p1ss about the facebook page ? If I fell for it I give you a double thumbs up.

Not taking the p1ss mate. The reason behind the FB is due to many of the locals have no idea about or use twitter. FB is there way of communicating. The link doesn't work by the way, he is trying to fix it ATM.

 

[Samus]

Lots of jungle drums beating in the Congo, I think we all hear most of them now thanks to Kiki and others. Not to mention AVZ being more on the front foot with sharing information etc. (Yet a little fuck’en late if you ask me)

Is Nigel warming up for a victory lap? Maybe. Very keen to hear the feedback from Perth meeting. Or read the AVZ announcements just prior.

To be honest I’m a little AVZ burnt out these days. Spent significant hours, days and weeks in the past trying to understand where things are at while communicating with as many connections as possible. All this has taken a toll, my motivation to seek out information at the moment is just about gone.

It is obvious things are coming to a head particularly with the Roadshows taking place. Since the first of these is within days, I’ll see what comes from the first meeting and if any motivation to dig around again returns thereafter.

AVZ management will have to step up and treat shareholders a little better IMO. Maybe all sins will be forgiven in the near future assuming all matters are sorted. I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the reasons for the Roadshows is to appeal or win over larger shareholders to avoid any trouble coming up from the ranks regarding non-disclosure and other claims.

I’m pretty angry at management, and I use that word loosely. It’s hard to see what they have done right or wrong with the lack of information they provided, as such it doesn’t pass the pub test or smell test IMO.

Granted if there are legal or important strategic reasons not to disclose things that’s fine, or at least understandable. Yet the company could have stated same to shareholders along the way and made the usual “unable to comment when matters are before the courts as to avoid prejudice etc, adversely affect AVZ legal position etc, rights or claims etc. Yet it was almost like let’s ignore it all and hope the disclosure issue goes away.

It’s all well and fine to say other parties are full of shit and spreading lies and that’s all we are going to say. But when things are in the courts, even a low level local court, this should be disclosed to shareholders and the market, right back in 2021 etc.

If everything was disclosed in real time the fight could have been taken public and all the groups that have supported AVZ could have mobilised earlier, including reporters, shareholders, civil society groups and there would have been more political pressure applied earlier rather then later. The IGF would have moved the court case to Kinshasa many months earlier. MoP caught out earlier, Zijin tail between the legs earlier. Cong with his hand out earlier.

The outcomes would likely be the same, just completed earlier. Would the SP have suffered a hit earlier, of course. Would it bounce back earlier yes.

Who ever provided the strategy to AVZ to keep your head down and let’s just tread quietly has been wrong. All this shit including Zijin should have been hit with a hammer on the head in real time, meetings called with Felix immediately, not one year after Zijin try to steal part of Manono.

Who has benefited from this saga dragging out??? AVZ advisors? Certainly not shareholders I can tell you that.

Anyway, rant over. I’ve been invited but not attending Roadshows, I don’t like being lied to and provided false information and I’ve had enough of that from Nigel.

Tempted to hand back my VIP membership to the AVZ Sunshine and Lollipops group, however that would be a step to far. I’ll just sulk a little longer then bounce back when we are through this current bullshit, that should have been sorted months ago.

Love and Peace, The Fox

Post of the year foxy! Burnt out part happened to me a lot sooner
However I also believe there is good reason for some hope atm.
Got my invite here as well but it's going to take a mining licence minimum in order to muster up enough enthusiasm to attend.

 

[Frank]

That’s still looking mint mate, new bumper waiting for Tbag Tommy I see… Few stains already .

“I swear officer Tbag Tommy jumped out in front while I was picking up the nuns from church



GLTAH & Fuck Tommy

If the TARDIS can take out two Kangaroos and still travel through time and space

Then it can easily take out Tommy with a T-Bone to the TBag and survive

Food for thought

Fuck Tommy

GLTAH's

Frank

 

[wombat74]

Lots of jungle drums beating in the Congo, I think we all hear most of them now thanks to Kiki and others. Not to mention AVZ being more on the front foot with sharing information etc. (Yet a little fuck’en late if you ask me)

Is Nigel warming up for a victory lap? Maybe. Very keen to hear the feedback from Perth meeting. Or read the AVZ announcements just prior.

To be honest I’m a little AVZ burnt out these days. Spent significant hours, days and weeks in the past trying to understand where things are at while communicating with as many connections as possible. All this has taken a toll, my motivation to seek out information at the moment is just about gone.

It is obvious things are coming to a head particularly with the Roadshows taking place. Since the first of these is within days, I’ll see what comes from the first meeting and if any motivation to dig around again returns thereafter.

AVZ management will have to step up and treat shareholders a little better IMO. Maybe all sins will be forgiven in the near future assuming all matters are sorted. I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the reasons for the Roadshows is to appeal or win over larger shareholders to avoid any trouble coming up from the ranks regarding non-disclosure and other claims.

I’m pretty angry at management, and I use that word loosely. It’s hard to see what they have done right or wrong with the lack of information they provided, as such it doesn’t pass the pub test or smell test IMO.

Granted if there are legal or important strategic reasons not to disclose things that’s fine, or at least understandable. Yet the company could have stated same to shareholders along the way and made the usual “unable to comment when matters are before the courts as to avoid prejudice etc, adversely affect AVZ legal position etc, rights or claims etc. Yet it was almost like let’s ignore it all and hope the disclosure issue goes away.

It’s all well and fine to say other parties are full of shit and spreading lies and that’s all we are going to say. But when things are in the courts, even a low level local court, this should be disclosed to shareholders and the market, right back in 2021 etc.

If everything was disclosed in real time the fight could have been taken public and all the groups that have supported AVZ could have mobilised earlier, including reporters, shareholders, civil society groups and there would have been more political pressure applied earlier rather then later. The IGF would have moved the court case to Kinshasa many months earlier. MoP caught out earlier, Zijin tail between the legs earlier. Cong with his hand out earlier.

The outcomes would likely be the same, just completed earlier. Would the SP have suffered a hit earlier, of course. Would it bounce back earlier yes.

Who ever provided the strategy to AVZ to keep your head down and let’s just tread quietly has been wrong. All this shit including Zijin should have been hit with a hammer on the head in real time, meetings called with Felix immediately, not one year after Zijin try to steal part of Manono.

Who has benefited from this saga dragging out??? AVZ advisors? Certainly not shareholders I can tell you that.

Anyway, rant over. I’ve been invited but not attending Roadshows, I don’t like being lied to and provided false information and I’ve had enough of that from Nigel.

Tempted to hand back my VIP membership to the AVZ Sunshine and Lollipops group, however that would be a step to far. I’ll just sulk a little longer then bounce back when we are through this current bullshit, that should have been sorted months ago.

Love and Peace, The Fox

Bottom line is if that court case was known to share holders many would have sold IMO . However the SP since that time increased significantly . So SH had opportunity to take profit . The one's I feel sorry for (apart from myself ) are the SH who bought in at the recent highs in the weeks leading up to the suspension . Either way Nigel will be in deep sh1t if this turns to sh1t . Not by me I might add . I take full responsibility for the choices I make .

 

[Samus]

Bottom line is if that court case was known to share holders many would have sold IMO . However the SP since that time increased significantly . So SH had opportunity to take profit . The one's I feel sorry for (apart from myself ) are the SH who bought in at the recent highs in the weeks leading up to the suspension . Either way Nigel will be in deep sh1t if this turns to sh1t . Not by me I might add . I take full responsibility for the choices I make .

Still no reason to hold out as much during suspension? I know it's complicated but fox is correct in that it could have been handled a lot better and with shareholders shown some respect. That's what is most disappointing especially given the bullish nature leading up to the suspension and also the fact that clearly some very large shareholders were given opportunity to exit beforehand. As us worthless retail idiots stood by watching the world's biggest red candle form.

 

[wombat74]

Not taking the p1ss mate. The reason behind the FB is due to many of the locals have no idea about or use twitter. FB is there way of communicating. The link doesn't work by the way, he is trying to fix it ATM.

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Ok thanks mate . Good idea in that case . Lets just hope we are a a lot further along in the process than needing support from the locals to help convince the DRC gov to give us the ML . We should be way way past that by now .

 

[The Fox]

Still no reason to hold out as much during suspension? I know it's complicated but fox is correct in that it could have been handled a lot better and with shareholders shown some respect. That's what is most disappointing especially given the bullish nature leading up to the suspension and also the fact that clearly some very large were given opportunity to exit beforehand. As us worthless retail idiots stood by looking at the world's biggest red candle form.

PS. If all items were disclosed along the way, there would be no Boatman activist report, no cock sucker Tommy and the SP would not have been attacked by other shorters. The SP would be at a price that weighs up items in the courts against likely outcomes and overall project value. SP would probably be well over a dollar taking all into consideration. AVZ management have enabled Boatman and Tommy.

Cheers The Fox

 

[JAG]

 

[Retrobyte]

To be honest I’m a little AVZ burnt out these days. Spent significant hours, days and weeks in the past trying to understand where things are at while communicating with as many connections as possible.

Hours and days is right when it comes to just keeping up with the volume of posts in this forum - being an AVZ shareholder has seriously eaten into my available spare time that could otherwise be spent watching porn.

 

[wombat74]

Still no reason to hold out as much during suspension? I know it's complicated but fox is correct in that it could have been handled a lot better and with shareholders shown some respect. That's what is most disappointing especially given the bullish nature leading up to the suspension and also the fact that clearly some very large shareholders were given opportunity to exit beforehand. As us worthless retail idiots stood by looking at the world's biggest red candle form.

The optimist in me tells me the silence is due to something significant going on in the back ground . The pessimist in me there is nothing positive to report . Some years ago a broker friend told me , ' Remember when investing in a mining company , no news is bad news .'
He told me that about 30 years ago , and time and time again it has proven to be correct .