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Dopi

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Hi all,

In the yellow snippet, the IGF conclusions confirms what I thought yesterday, that the 5% to Dathomir from Cominière are definitive because of the contract between Cominière and Dathomir.
The 15% to Zijin are them Null & void because in breach of the law and existing contracts!
To me, it means that IF legal procedures are fair, we should be okay (but at the moment I am having doubts about fairness in DRC).

What I am wondering, is what is the place and power of the IGF in DRC?
I have no knowledge regarding this and I tend to love the IGF as they seem to be supporting us but has anyone any knowledge of their legal weight in DRC? Any story about a past case they brought home? What is their process when charging someone?

Looking forward to your opinions,

Dopi
 
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Charbella

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Hi all,

In the yellow snippet, the IGF conclusions confirms what I thought yesterday, that the 5% to Dathomir from Cominière are definitive because of the contract between Cominière and Dathomir.
The 15% to Zijin are them Null & void because in breach of the law and existing contracts!
To me, it means that IF legal procedures are fair, we should be okay (but at the moment I am having doubts about fairness in DRC).

What I am wondering, is what is the place and power of the IGF in DRC?
I have no knowledge regarding this and I tend to love the IGF as they seem to be supporting us but has anyone any knowledge of their legal weight in DRC? Any story about a past case they brought home? What is their process when charging someone?

Looking forward to your opinions,

Dopi
 
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Thanks JAG for all the updates from the bird. GLTAH
No worries Sparrow....I generally don't say much as my opinion is mine, the same as my left NUT...just like sharing the info;)
 
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DoubleA

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Hi all,

In the yellow snippet, the IGF conclusions confirms what I thought yesterday, that the 5% to Dathomir from Cominière are definitive because of the contract between Cominière and Dathomir.
The 15% to Zijin are them Null & void because in breach of the law and existing contracts!
To me, it means that IF legal procedures are fair, we should be okay (but at the moment I am having doubts about fairness in DRC).

What I am wondering, is what is the place and power of the IGF in DRC?
I have no knowledge regarding this and I tend to love the IGF as they seem to be supporting us but has anyone any knowledge of their legal weight in DRC? Any story about a past case they brought home? What is their process when charging someone?

Looking forward to your opinions,

Dopi

IGF are the DRC Ombudsman/Auditor and have a fair bit of power and influence.

If you look at what is happening with Gécamines, the President is talking about renegotiating contracts based on IGF findings etc.

 
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BTW the above swimsuit image came with the report.🥶
 
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Hi Jag,
Thanks for all the updates from the Twitterverse. I have one request - could you please post the links to the Tweets with the screenshots as it would make it easier to find the threads.

I think we're through the worst of the crap (until the Chinese crank up the BS just before we start trading again!) & I'm feeling positive for the first time in a loooong time.
 
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I absolutely agree @Dazmac66. Accepting a TO from a Chinese company will be perceived as more weakness from Australia and Australian based companies. They will realise if they cause a little trouble with the local gov, send a few snacks to a few people and post some bull$h!t on twitter then Oz based companies will panic and just give up.

I want AVZ to fight until the bitter end. Yes there is a chance we may loose but the odds are in our favour and the chance of success is a greater.

TO is off the table for me. I will be voting against, if this ever is proposed.

Worst case scenario we dont sell to CATH and keep %75 ownership, DRC get their 10% and the Dath/Zin %15 can be sorted by the DRC corruption watch dog. The way the market in Lithium is right now we could cap raise 300 million from a mix of strategic investors and retail. I would happily buy more.

IMO GLTAH

Who said anything about a TO from a Chinese company? FYI you won’t be able to vote on any potential sale by AVZ of its Dathcom shares, whether this happens at 100% or a lessor percentage just to let you know.

Fighting to the end and worse case scenarios doesn’t sound what you might say, “commercially strategic”.

If I had a choice in the matter I would see AVZ sell 100% (or continue to hold a 10% free carry) of its ownership of the Roche Dure tenement for say $4B, provide a special dividend to AVZ shareholders of approx $1.20 or more then with balance of funds held by AVZ prove up Carriere de I’Este and just do it all again, and while picking up a couple of other sites either here in Australia or the DRC to diversify.

On the above example I’d expect with AVZ holding approx $500M in the bank, say 10% of Dathcom, 100% of the surrounding Manono leases (already held) and Carriere de I’Este and AVZ power making dollars charging for the electricity to mining sites and town the share price would be approximately 40 cents, maybe more IMO of course. (Or flip this all around and sell Carriere de I’Este for $1B with 100% off take locked in and move forward with Roche Dure with no debt or need to take on equity parters Chinese or otherwise, just a thought)

FYI the Carriere de l’Este Pegmatite, has a mapped length of about 5,500m, and is potentially the largest pegmatite in the Manono Project and potentially the highest grade.

Fight to the death or bitter end, winner take all is good when your back is against the wall, however I believe AVZ is well in front of everything and is gradually winning its bouts with the various corrupt parties it encounters so to that end this is all a game of strategy more like chess then a punch up.

The strategy is to protect, retain or monetise assets to make the most dollars for shareholders, nothing else really matters. If the best outcome for shareholders (immediate and long term) is for some type of TO so be it.

I see a full or partial TO as an absolute win for shareholders (if completed on favourable terms of course.)

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a high chance of a TO of AVZ’s interests in Dathcom at this time. Although I certainly do hope it happens now and it’s based on a similar outcome / structure to what I described above.

In any event, I would not dismiss the “Opportunity” of a TO so readily when there are Take Overs and there are Take Overs, any outcome that is of great financial benefit and reward to AVZ shareholders is welcome IMO.

As suggested in a previous post, seems this week is turning out to be very interesting indeed.

Regarding coming out of suspension, from what I hear it’s unlikely this week, apparently everything is all sorted in favour of AVZ which is great news, yet there are still various processes and documents to complete / finalise to support coming out of suspension. It all might be completed and written up in the next few days but sounded unlikely. As always, we shall see what the tide brings in tomorrow, and the next day and so on and so on…….

Cheers The Fox 🦊
 
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