AVZ Discussion 2022

[GuruDukun]

Ohhh ffs

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There's another bunch of blowin's buggerising around

Everyone avoid the shite and get back on board

Be fkd if I know what GeorgyBoy and Da Guru and JNRB and a few others are looking to influence or achieve here

They pop in ...they pop out...they pop in.....they pop out......they pop.....of fuck it

You get the idea

Ha! I understand your paranoia but wouldn’t it be understandable that I (can’t speak for others) lurk and post every now and again and don’t feel the need to vent my frustration/comment on every thing.

TSE is made up of many more people than just yourself, wombat, and money bags, etc..

 

[JNRB]

Ha! I understand your paranoia but wouldn’t it be understandable that I (can’t speak for others) lurk and post every now and again and don’t feel the need to vent my frustration/comment on every thing.

TSE is made up of many more people than just yourself, wombat, and money bags, etc..

Exactly, thank you.

 

[Uglybob]

So, JNRB is another DeGeist alt?

Lots of posts all of a sudden.

 

[antimatter]

All the sins of Jerusalem that NF is carrying on his shoulders will be washed away once he brings the ML. And for everyone's sake he gets it before the end of this suspension deadline.

If the Friday evening grins at AVZ's HQ are to be taken into account, we might be close this time...

I hope NF doesn't get crucified because he and AVZ would not rise on the third day.

 

[Dazmac66]

Posted on the crapper just now - what does this mean, it hurts my brain just to read some of this stuff. Sounds like he is asking someone to pull their head in. Bit late for that!


The President of the Republic, Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo chaired, Friday, November 18, 2022, the seventy-seventh meeting of the Council of Ministers by videoconference.In his communication, the Head of State focused in particular on the role of the agents of the companies of the State Portfolio, of the establishments and of the newly appointed public services.On this point, Felix Tshisekedi insisted on the imperative need for these agents to have constantly, in the exercise of their functions, a managerial conduct which is based on good governance.

Quoted in the minutes of this meeting, Félix Tshisekedi said he expected all these agents to behave highly professionally in the performance of their duties.For the President of the Republic, advertising insertions and untimely media interventions by public officials are in no way a guarantee of managerial performance.

On the other hand, said the Head of State, it is sound management practices that will produce positive results.

 

[JAG]

Posted on the crapper just now - what does this mean, it hurts my brain just to read some of this stuff. Sounds like he is asking someone to pull their head in. Bit late for that!


The President of the Republic, Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo chaired, Friday, November 18, 2022, the seventy-seventh meeting of the Council of Ministers by videoconference.In his communication, the Head of State focused in particular on the role of the agents of the companies of the State Portfolio, of the establishments and of the newly appointed public services.On this point, Felix Tshisekedi insisted on the imperative need for these agents to have constantly, in the exercise of their functions, a managerial conduct which is based on good governance.

Quoted in the minutes of this meeting, Félix Tshisekedi said he expected all these agents to behave highly professionally in the performance of their duties.For the President of the Republic, advertising insertions and untimely media interventions by public officials are in no way a guarantee of managerial performance.

On the other hand, said the Head of State, it is sound management practices that will produce positive results.

 

[Dazmac66]

Also Credit to Tolate on HC. This one looks like it is written by an English speaker, very to the point!

https://econewsrdc.com/la-societe-c...le-projet-dexploitation-du-lithium-de-manono/

 

[Samus]

Also Credit to Tolate on HC. This one looks like it is written by an English speaker, very to the point!

https://econewsrdc.com/la-societe-c...le-projet-dexploitation-du-lithium-de-manono/

Declaration-of-the-civil-society-on-the-manono-project

Site Suspended - This site has stepped out for a bit

Busy morning, perhaps somebody else can translate?

 

[JAG]

Declaration-of-the-civil-society-on-the-manono-project

Site Suspended - This site has stepped out for a bit

Busy morning, perhaps somebody else can translate?

JOINT PRESS RELEASE N°002/OSC/RN/11/2022 THE MANAGEMENT OF COMINIERE SA MUST STOP BLOCKING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MANONO AND UNDERMINING PRESIDENTIAL POLICY ENERGY AND DEVELOPMENT OF 145 TERRITORIES IN MULTIPLYING STRATEGIES TO BLOCK DATHCOM MINING. Kinshasa-Bukavu-Kolwezi-Lubumbashi, November 20, 2022. Our national civil society organizations specializing in resource issues natural resources in the Democratic Republic of Congo, signatories of this press release, invite His Excellency the President of the Republic, Head of State Félix-Antoine TSHISEKEDI TSHILOMBO and the Government led by His Excellency the Prime Minister Jean-Michel SAMA LUKONDE KYENGE to be concerned for the normal functioning of the Dathcom Mining SA joint venture to enable it to start producing Lithium in the territory of Manono and apply its community development policy according to the country's mining legislation and international standards. Our organizations are seeing unrest and maneuvering from some departments administrative and judicial authorities as well as Cominière SA with the aim of freezing the notification of the Dathcom Mining SA Exploitation License and communicate the total amount surface rights due to the State; this constitutes a serious prejudice not only for the party Congolese (Congolese State with its 10% of the shares returning to it by right as well as those of the portfolio company, Cominière SA), but above all for the population affected by this project mining which was already to conclude the Specifications for community development for combat current poverty; this also prevents the start of the construction works of the mine and the production of this popular mineral in the manufacture of electric batteries essential in the fight against global warming against which the DRC is positioning itself into a solution country for the global energy transition. Since September 2022, the General Management of Cominière SA, one member of which is supposed to sit in the Technical Committee for Monitoring the works of the rehabilitation project of power plants of Mpiana-Mwanga, launched a call for tenders claiming that the said power plants are to be abandonment. During a meeting organized by the communities of Manono on Saturday, November 12 2022 on Dathcom Mining SA, the delegate of Cominière SA has publicly declared that they have '' selected the Chinese group Zijin for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power plants of Mpiana- Mwanga within three years and unconditionally”, according to the information in our possession received of a participant in said meeting. While the official documents in our possession (including the ministerial decree of which we publish a copy in this press release) prove the contrary. The signatory organizations find in this one more unfortunate maneuver to block the start of the Dathcom Mining SA mining project which will contribute to the development of Manono and its surroundings in the province of Tanganyika as requested by His Excellency Mr. President of the Republic and His Excellency the Prime Minister through the ambitious grassroots development program for our 145 territories, with positive spin-offs and ripple effects on the provinces of Haut-Katanga, Lualaba, Maniema, Haut-Lomami, Lomami, South Kivu. Our organizations remind Cominière SA and the Ministry of the Portfolio that one of the reasons that motivated the government to sign the agreement with AVZ POWER SAU is the announcement made by this private company to rehabilitate the plants concerned in compliance with the laws of the country and the international standards in the sector in order to supply energy to Dathcom Mining SA for its mining operations as well as public and private schools and hospitals (health centers) in Manono and its surroundings without forgetting a quantity to be used by the State for the electrification of the city of Manono and Mpiana-Mwanga. This vision of things is part of the policy of development of His Excellency Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, President of the Republic and Head of State, to electrify our villages and towns through public-private partnerships. After documented investigations with the Ministry which manages electricity in the Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo, our organizations have succeeded in establishing the following chronology of events known to Cominière SA that they wish to share with public opinion: -On June 04, 2019, AVZ POWER SAU sends a letter of Expression of Interest on a project hydroelectric development of the Mpiana-Mwanga site at least 87 km from the city of Manono in Tanganyika; -On June 13, 2019, there was a meeting convened by the Ministry of Energy sanctioned by a ‘’ Minutes of the meeting

 

[JAG]

JOINT PRESS RELEASE N°002/OSC/RN/11/2022 THE MANAGEMENT OF COMINIERE SA MUST STOP BLOCKING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MANONO AND UNDERMINING PRESIDENTIAL POLICY ENERGY AND DEVELOPMENT OF 145 TERRITORIES IN MULTIPLYING STRATEGIES TO BLOCK DATHCOM MINING. Kinshasa-Bukavu-Kolwezi-Lubumbashi, November 20, 2022. Our national civil society organizations specializing in resource issues natural resources in the Democratic Republic of Congo, signatories of this press release, invite His Excellency the President of the Republic, Head of State Félix-Antoine TSHISEKEDI TSHILOMBO and the Government led by His Excellency the Prime Minister Jean-Michel SAMA LUKONDE KYENGE to be concerned for the normal functioning of the Dathcom Mining SA joint venture to enable it to start producing Lithium in the territory of Manono and apply its community development policy according to the country's mining legislation and international standards. Our organizations are seeing unrest and maneuvering from some departments administrative and judicial authorities as well as Cominière SA with the aim of freezing the notification of the Dathcom Mining SA Exploitation License and communicate the total amount surface rights due to the State; this constitutes a serious prejudice not only for the party Congolese (Congolese State with its 10% of the shares returning to it by right as well as those of the portfolio company, Cominière SA), but above all for the population affected by this project mining which was already to conclude the Specifications for community development for combat current poverty; this also prevents the start of the construction works of the mine and the production of this popular mineral in the manufacture of electric batteries essential in the fight against global warming against which the DRC is positioning itself into a solution country for the global energy transition. Since September 2022, the General Management of Cominière SA, one member of which is supposed to sit in the Technical Committee for Monitoring the works of the rehabilitation project of power plants of Mpiana-Mwanga, launched a call for tenders claiming that the said power plants are to be abandonment. During a meeting organized by the communities of Manono on Saturday, November 12 2022 on Dathcom Mining SA, the delegate of Cominière SA has publicly declared that they have '' selected the Chinese group Zijin for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power plants of Mpiana- Mwanga within three years and unconditionally”, according to the information in our possession received of a participant in said meeting. While the official documents in our possession (including the ministerial decree of which we publish a copy in this press release) prove the contrary. The signatory organizations find in this one more unfortunate maneuver to block the start of the Dathcom Mining SA mining project which will contribute to the development of Manono and its surroundings in the province of Tanganyika as requested by His Excellency Mr. President of the Republic and His Excellency the Prime Minister through the ambitious grassroots development program for our 145 territories, with positive spin-offs and ripple effects on the provinces of Haut-Katanga, Lualaba, Maniema, Haut-Lomami, Lomami, South Kivu. Our organizations remind Cominière SA and the Ministry of the Portfolio that one of the reasons that motivated the government to sign the agreement with AVZ POWER SAU is the announcement made by this private company to rehabilitate the plants concerned in compliance with the laws of the country and the international standards in the sector in order to supply energy to Dathcom Mining SA for its mining operations as well as public and private schools and hospitals (health centers) in Manono and its surroundings without forgetting a quantity to be used by the State for the electrification of the city of Manono and Mpiana-Mwanga. This vision of things is part of the policy of development of His Excellency Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, President of the Republic and Head of State, to electrify our villages and towns through public-private partnerships. After documented investigations with the Ministry which manages electricity in the Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo, our organizations have succeeded in establishing the following chronology of events known to Cominière SA that they wish to share with public opinion: -On June 04, 2019, AVZ POWER SAU sends a letter of Expression of Interest on a project hydroelectric development of the Mpiana-Mwanga site at least 87 km from the city of Manono in Tanganyika; -On June 13, 2019, there was a meeting convened by the Ministry of Energy sanctioned by a ‘’ Minutes of the meeting

n technique for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric plant of Mpiana-Mwanga’’ written by the General Secretariat of the Ministry of Water Resources and Electricity ; -On June 21, 2019, a collective service order referenced No.ERH/SG/0/036/B9/NB/19, on government sends a technical mission on site to the Territory of Manono; -In July 2019, a mission "Report" carried out at the Mpiana Mwanga hydroelectric power station on the Luvua River as part of the rehabilitation project by the company AVZ POWER SAU from July 24 to 03, 2019 at the expense of the Project; -On July 29, 2019, there was a document referenced No. ERH/4/SG/0/08681/G9/LK/19 and entitled “Transmission Mission report – Mission carried out in Mpiana-Mwanga in the territory of Manono in the province of Tanganyika”; -On January 13, 2020, there was the signing of the “Protocol of Understanding between the DRC and AVZ POWER SAU in about the rehabilitation of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations by the Vice Minister of the Ministry of Water Resources and Electricity for the Minister. -On March 25, 2020, there was “Transmission of the feasibility study of the hydroelectric power station of Mpiana-Mwanga in the province of Tanganyika in Manono’’ at the Ministry of Resources Hydraulics and Electricity (Government) under reference 001/AVZP/MD/PERTH/03/202, followed by the acknowledgment of receipt on March 27, 2020. On October 30, 2020, there was an “Information Note for the attention of His Excellency Mr. Minister of State, Minister of Water Resources and Electricity” on the “Mission requested by the company AVZ POWER SAU within the framework of the technical and environmental assessments of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power plant under reference RHE/4/SG/0/1321/G20/SMW/2020. -On October 30, 2020, there was “Transmission of the report of the service mission carried out in Manono in the province of Tanganyika” according to the referenced mission or service order RHE/0/SG/070/B9/SM/2020 of September 15, 2020” to support the technical agents of the companies Congo Energy SA, Blue Phoenix, Stucky, CREC 8, International Montage Maintenance SA, Zest Weg Group, Muama Business SARL Group, WD Power, Power Line, Africa Services DRC SARL, TBEA Hengyan Transformer Co. Ltd and Tramico SARL in connection with the valuations technical and environmental aspects of the Piana Mwanga I and II power plants, under reference RHE/4/SG/0/1322/G9/ALS/2020. -In October 2020, there was a "Mission Report" carried out in Manono by Engineer Timoleon EYUMA, a ministry official responsible for coordinating all the work. In December 2020, the General Secretariat of the Ministry of Water Resources and Electricity shared with the parties its “Mission Report” carried out, from November 24 to December 09 2022, at various sites in the Territory of Manono, in the province of Tanganyika for a comprehensive assessment with a view to planning the rehabilitation works of the power stations Mpiana-Mwanga I and II. - On January 22, 2021, the report of the service mission was sent to the Ministry carried out in Mpiana-Mwanga on collective service order No.RHE/4/SG/0/114/B9/SMW/2020 -29 JANUARY 2021, the Minister of Energy signed a Ministerial Order No.129/CAB/MIN/RHE/EMM/2021 of 29 on the “creation of a Technical Project Monitoring Committee rehabilitation of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations, in which a representative or delegate of Cominière SA. On the same day, the Minister signed Ministerial Order No.130/CAB/MIN/RHE/EMM/2021 on designation of the members of the monitoring committee for the plant rehabilitation project hydropower plants of Mpiana-Mwanga I and II. -On March 12, 2021, there was “Transmission of the Minutes and Report” of the validation workshop of the feasibility studies relating to the renovation of the Mpiana-Mwanga I hydroelectric power stations and II on the Luvua River in Tanganyika Province under reference RHE/SG/0/0389/B8/SM/2021. - On April 9, 2021, the members of the Monitoring Committee were appointed. -On April 24, 2021, by its letter referenced MOMENTUM/KIN/CL/002/AVRIL/2021, the consulting firm of AVZ POWER SAU writes to the Minister of Energy to express to the government the satisfaction of his client following the letter from the Minister of Energy referenced CAB/MIN/RHE/BMP/209/AAM/21 approving the feasibility studies for the renovation of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II power plants. -On May 3, 2021, the letter from the Secretary General of the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity referenced RHE/SG/0/0652/G/NB/2021 appointing the member and official leader, representing the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity in the committee of followed. -On May 3, 2021, the letter from the Secretary General of the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity referenced RHE/SG/0/0653/G/NB/2021 notifies the representative of the Ministry of resource

 

[JAG]

es Hydraulics and Electricity its designation in the monitoring committee. -On May 20, 2021, the Coordination of the Technical Monitoring Committee sends a Technical Note to the Minister in charge of the "state of play to date of the power plant rehabilitation project hydropower plants of Mpiana-Mwanga. - On May 27, 2021, the technical monitoring committee sends an Information Note to the attention of the Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Electricity on the project. Taking into account these facts known to the Management of Cominière SA and the string pullers identify, our organizations urgently and patriotically recommend: 1. TO THE INTERIM MANAGEMENT OF COMINIERE SA - To respect the Memorandum of Understanding signed between the Government of the Republic and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power stations, one of which representative was to sit on the Technical Monitoring Committee of the said project; - To take into account the conclusions of the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on its management and the sale of the assets of this state-owned company, and draw the consequences by resigning. 2. TO THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES AND ELECTRICITY - To ensure that the work is carried out normally taking into account the agreement signed with AVZ POWER SAU which engages the entire government and the Democratic Republic of Congo; - To ensure with his Portfolio colleague that the Management of Cominière SA ceases to create a further blockage against the effective start of work on the Dathcom lithium mining project Mining SA expected by the populations of Manono, the province of Tanganyika and the whole country. 3. TO THE MINISTER OF PORTFOLIO - To stop sowing confusion and playing a role that blocks the development of the mining project of Dathcom Mining SA and take into account the conclusions of the IGF roadmap (Report) on his bad role in the illegal sale of 15% of the shares to a Zijin company as well as the sell-off of the assets of Cominière SA by its interim management, then draw all the conclusions of fact and by law; - To respect and support the Memorandum of Understanding signed by the Government of the Republic, through the Minister in charge of the energy sector, and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of Mpiana-Mwanga power plants; - To stop taking sides with a private company (Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU) in its commercial dispute with AVZ International Pty Ltd nor for the Chinese group Zijin, beneficiary of a sale of Cominière SA shares qualified as illegal by the Report of the General Inspectorate of Finance, with all the risks of undermining the efforts of His Excellency Mr. President of the Republic and Head of State for a healthier business climate and the rule of law; - To proceed urgently, in the name of the higher interest of the nation and in respect of the vision of the Head of State, to the recruitment by selective test of State agents who can manage rationally with productive governance this state mining company whose assets serve only a small group of individuals identified by reports from other organizations not governmental. 4. TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE PRIME MINISTER, HEAD OF GOVERNMENT - To put some order in the management of Cominière SA, left for years in the hands of two people (the Deputy Managing Director and the Technical Director) who impose their will to the detriment of the interests of local communities and the Republic, and to ask the Minister of the Portfolio to proceed urgently to the recruitment by selective testing of new agents to manage this public company taking into account the conclusions of the Report IGF; 5. TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC, HEAD OF STATE - Ensure that a climate of trust reigns between the shareholders of Dathcom Mining SA for mining operations to begin urgently; - Give orders to the State services so that Dathcom Mining SA is notified and that the 10% action of the State are effectively registered in the register of the Mining Cadastre in accordance with our mining legislation; - Ensure that governance within Cominière SA is truly strengthened and implemented. execution ; - Ensure that the people proposed by the Ministry of Portfolio are honest and will defend the interests of the State in the company Dathcom Mining SA, United Cominière SA and others partnership companies at Cominière SA; - Prohibit any interference or interference by certain members of the government, institutions and cabinets at national and provincial level having direct or indirect interests with this

 

[John25]

and watch john brown post about this on twitter...

 

[Dazmac66]

This is the one that sounds like it was written in English.​

​

Civil Society points to the culprit and mobilizes to save the Manono lithium mining project​

November 20, 2022 Faustin KUEDIASALA Economy , NEWS FEED 0

The lithium mining project in Manono, in the province of Tanganyika, is stalling. And civil society, operating in the natural resources sector, does not hesitate to name the culprit: Cominière (Congolese mining company), this state portfolio company born from the remains of Zaire-Etain.
In a statement, made simultaneously, on November 20, 2022, in Kinshasa, Kolwezi, Lubumbashi and Bukavu, these Civil Society Organizations note that "the management of Cominière SA must stop blocking the development of Manono and undermining the presidential energy policy and the development of 145 territories by multiplying strategies to block Dathcom Mining”.
From the outset, these Civil Society Organizations specializing in natural resource issues claim to have noted "agitation and maneuvers on the part of certain government administrative and judicial services as well as Cominière SA with the aim of freezing the notification of the 'Exploitation of Dathcom Mining SA and communicate to it the total amount of surface rights due to the State; this constitutes a serious prejudice not only for the Congolese party (Congolese State with its 10% of the shares returning to it by right as well as those of the company in the portfolio, Cominière SA), but especially for the population affected by this mining project which was to already conclude the Specifications for community development to combat current poverty;
They base their conviction on documented investigations with the ministry that manages electricity in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
“Taking into account these facts known to the Management of Cominière SA and the pullers of the strings to be identified”, these Organizations recommend “urgently and patriotically” to the authorities of the country to do everything possible to remove all the locks which block the effective start of the project. lithium from Manono.
Especially to the President of the Republic, these Organizations are waiting to see him: “to ensure that the climate of trust reigns between the shareholders of the Dathcom Mining SA Company so that the exploitation operations begin urgently; give orders to the services of the State so that Dathcom Mining SA is notified and that the 10% of State shares are effectively registered in the register of the Mining Cadastre in accordance with our mining legislation; ensure that governance within Cominière SA is effectively strengthened and implemented; ensure that the persons proposed by the Ministry of Portfolio are honest and will defend the interests of the State in the company Dathcom Mining SA, United Cominière SA and other partnership companies at Cominière SA;

 

[John25]

I think you should remove this John

Shit……Bags if you say so Bags …how do you know my name is John ????

Love your little Fella Nut

 

[wombat74]

I think you should remove this John

Unlike the crapper a deleted post remains in the reply . Maybe something for TSE to take a look at .

 

[LOCKY82]

I think we should all be watching how we speak about the people involved (including myself) there's no need for it really and there's obviously outsiders watching in for anything that can be used to tarnish the company name.

 

[Winenut]

Felix has a fair bit on his plate

I hope he can find the time to squeeze in some actions to get the AVZ train back on track

https://www.africanews.com/2022/11/...between-drc-and-rwanda-set-for-november-21st/

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Unlike the crapper a deleted post remains in the reply . Maybe something for TSE to take a look at .

Wombie, I’ve deleted my reply to @John25 so all traces are gone.

And John, not only do I know your name, but I also know your age, weight, pin numbers and what you get up to when you’re not peeping out your curtains.

@Deboss has told me all sorts of things about you

And @Winenut(s) I agree Felix has had his hands full…. I’ve been reading about the M23 rebels slaughtering, raping and pillaging villagers and communities in the north east of the country every day for the 6 months we have been in suspension.

I try to direct my criticism to the corruption in the DRC, not Felix

 

[LOCKY82]

Has anyone been involved in this talk of a shareholder charity to be set up for manono? There's a bit of talk on the bird from Constantine and shareholders replying keen to be involved. Might be a good way to have a connection between shareholders and the local community, to show we actually really do care and want positive change for them.
If anyone knows of something happening if you could pont me on the right direction that'd be much appreciated.

 

[JAG]

Has anyone been involved in this talk of a shareholder charity to be set up for manono? There's a bit of talk on the bird from Constantine and shareholders replying keen to be involved. Might be a good way to have a connection between shareholders and the local community, to show we actually really do care and want positive change for them.
If anyone knows of something happening if you could pont me on the right direction that'd be much appreciated.