AVZ Discussion 2022

[EV Enthusiast]

Ok lets talk TO numbers . How about $2.50 - $3 ? So the punters who got in at the highs make minimum 100% profit . Those that got in earlier make 2000%+ .Then those in between .
I can hear it down the pub .
" Jeez Billy I'm pissed off with my bloody AVZ investment . Got bloody gipped ."
"Oh gee sorry to hear that Bob . Can't win em all I guess . How did it end up ? "
"Was a bloody take over had no choice but to sell . Got gipped big time ."
'' Oh shit that's no bloody good Bob . But did you at least come away with a profit ?"
" Yeh 2000% . Bloody mongrels ."

Mate i'd take $3 in a heartbeat and be done with it. So many grubs and criminals involved at all levels. Klaus, AJN, Cong, Zijing are clearly all colluding to make our life hell. It's just too hard.

Sell the fukker and get the hell out of dodge i say. People wanting AVZ to run a PLS or FMG type operation out of the DRC are dreaming long term. It's too hard, no one wants to live there and spend the time to bring it to fruition. Only the Chinese with their abominable human rights record will have the gumption to make it work. It is sad, but true, and proven to date in the DRC. When we get the mining license we will see the next round of drama sent our way with hurdles to jump and mountains to climb. Just show me the money and see you farking later.

 

[Azzler]

Businesses don't make the big money by being weak and insipid in the the face of predatory criminal activity by slimy fkn knts

Yeah agree negotiations and deals can be beneficial and the art of doing them well in business can really add value when honest and upfront parties come to the table

But that aint what we're talkin' about here

These guys are out and out fucking crooks, liars, sham artists and are engaged in bribery at the highest levels

AVZ could make a well intentioned deal that prima facie would look reasonable and productive with the view of getting the project off the ground sooner rather than later.....I get that....it would seem logical to negotiate a beneficial outcome like that

But I bet you a pound to a penny those greasy fking mofo's would be back to fuck us over in as many ways possible with no regard for any fucking deal they may choose to sign their filthy shithouse names to

They have no moral compass, they have no regard for the law, they have no regard for your investment, they want everything they can get (including your money) by any means at their disposal and I guarantee they will not cease and desist from that modus operandi while the knts draw breath

They might have a spot open at the IGF for you Wino.

Do you want to put off the ML (if that's what it takes) for longer giving said dastardly characters more time to dream up ways to get everything?
Can you imagine the endless bullshit thrown at us if we decide to put off the ML for longer?
As others have said, if we are offered the ML now for RD, take it, then tie them up for years with the rest of it.
I don't peronally know the risks obviously, but waiting longer sounds riskier to me.

I'm dirty on all those mongrels too mate, but I'm not here to deliver Justice.

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

What have Zijin got so far? A shitty tenement to the south east of us, which originally got played on the nearology thematic. Force found fuck all, and ran off into the sunset. Good luck with that.

Oh, I missed a line off - they wouldn't be able to tie up infrastructure for exclusive use, with out the product to make use of it

Kia kaha shareholders. Brisbane tonight. Ask the questions

Also high in "mica" I heard

 

[Chilla]

Ok lets talk TO numbers . How about $2.50 - $3 ? So the punters who got in at the highs make minimum 100% profit . Those that got in earlier make 2000%+ .Then those in between .
I can hear it down the pub .
" Jeez Billy I'm pissed off with my bloody AVZ investment . Got bloody gipped ."
"Oh gee sorry to hear that Bob . Can't win em all I guess . How did it end up ? "
"Was a bloody take over had no choice but to sell . Got gipped big time ."
'' Oh shit that's no bloody good Bob . But did you at least come away with a profit ?"
" Yeh 2000% . Bloody mongrels ."

Haha love it....meanwhile Nige is down the Monaco Yacht Club with Klaus admiring their 250' superyachts laughing at the mug punters who let CDL be stolen

 

[LOCKY82]

Plums are tingling last few days I reckon good news not far away!

 

[Samus]

As a former director of AVZ now positioned to try and pinch part of AVZ's tenement surely there are some avenues to pursue there?
Or can these fucking corporate criminals just get away with whatever they like?

 

[LOCKY82]

Actually I might need to see a doctor about that

 

[Roon]

Ok lets talk TO numbers . How about $2.50 - $3 ? So the punters who got in at the highs make minimum 100% profit . Those that got in earlier make 2000%+ .Then those in between .
I can hear it down the pub .
" Jeez Billy I'm pissed off with my bloody AVZ investment . Got bloody gipped ."
"Oh gee sorry to hear that Bob . Can't win em all I guess . How did it end up ? "
"Was a bloody take over had no choice but to sell . Got gipped big time ."
'' Oh shit that's no bloody good Bob . But did you at least come away with a profit ?"
" Yeh 2000% . Bloody mongrels ."

At 3$ that would be someone paying AUD 10.5B... for a excellent resource, but one that's not even really started into development, let alone production. 10.5B for an unfinished 150 man camp, a roller and a digger. Sure, and a shed load of lithium, but also a shed load of headaches and problems - what we've seen is likely on the beginning of drama.

I don't think there's any real likelihood of getting near that figure. The only way I feel to realise these kind of numbers is go into production. After we are producing at nameplate, I could see a takeover above this level, but not whilst we haven't even got a contractor or finalised design, let alone a working mine and transport infrastructure.

I know I'll get shouted down by some here as I have before for airing similar thoughts, but I just don't see a takeover like that as realistic for unbroken ground facing all sorts of hurdles, regardless of its potential value.

 

[wombat74]

At 3$ that would be someone paying AUD 10.5B... for a excellent resource, but one that's not even really started into development, let alone production. 10.5B for a 150 man camp, a roller and a digger. Sure, and a shed load of lithium, but also a shed load of headaches and problems - what we've seen is likely on the beginning of drama.

I don't think there's any real likelihood of getting near that figure. The only way I feel to realise these kind of numbers is go into production. After we are producing at nameplate, I could see a takeover above this level, but not whilst we haven't even got a contractor or finalised design, let alone a working mine and transport infrastructure.

I know I'll get shouted down by some here as I have before for airing similar thoughts, but I just don't see a takeover like that as realistic.

I'm on record saying $1.50 , but I know it upsets people . That's $75 mil for Nige .

 

[Chilla]

As a former director of AVZ now positioned to try and pinch part of AVZ's tenement surely there are some avenues to pursue there?
Or can these fucking corporate criminals just get away with whatever they like?

Probably not much can be done with Klaus..........but Nige and Huljich may have something to answer for as they were AVZ directors while the carve up of PR13359 was being planned and implemented.
Nige + Huljich = AVZ
Nige + Klaus = AJN
Huljich + Klaus = ANL
AVZ + AJN + ANL =

all imo

 

[LOCKY82]

A wise man once said! "Never prepare for a pineappling when the enemy doesn't even have any fucking pineapples" Mark Twain 1908

 

[wombat74]

Probably not much can be done with Klaus..........but Nige and Huljich may have something to answer for as they were AVZ directors while the carve up of PR13359 was being planned and implemented.
Nige + Huljich = AVZ
Nige + Klaus = AJN
Huljich + Klaus = ANL
AVZ + AJN + ANL =

all imo

Can people please take their grievances out on Nigel after I've got my money out . Thanks in advance .

 

[Rediah]

I'm on record saying $1.50 , but I know it upsets people . That's $75 mil for Nige .

Nah, wont be upset.

I am averaging over $1, currently 300k in deep red, but will be happy for $2 TO as long as you guys go to my gofund me and buy me ID BUZZ,

As my body is not made for OnlyFans, so once we go $2 I will start GoFundMe for this VW from TSE AVZ members , do not disappoint me peeps, i NEED this....

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This evening you guys can see that what I mean by when I say, I am not aging gracefully ....

Otherwise I dont want to hear T.O. ( I joke)

 

[M.Bison]

At 3$ that would be someone paying AUD 10.5B... for a excellent resource, but one that's not even really started into development, let alone production. 10.5B for an unfinished 150 man camp, a roller and a digger. Sure, and a shed load of lithium, but also a shed load of headaches and problems - what we've seen is likely on the beginning of drama.

I don't think there's any real likelihood of getting near that figure. The only way I feel to realise these kind of numbers is go into production. After we are producing at nameplate, I could see a takeover above this level, but not whilst we haven't even got a contractor or finalised design, let alone a working mine and transport infrastructure.

I know I'll get shouted down by some here as I have before for airing similar thoughts, but I just don't see a takeover like that as realistic for unbroken ground facing all sorts of hurdles, regardless of its potential value.

Not a chance in hell of a $3 offer. Maybe after construction is complete and transport route well defined and functional. An offer of $1.50 right now in all likelihood would get over the line imo.

 

[Charbella]

Probably not much can be done with Klaus..........but Nige and Huljich may have something to answer for as they were AVZ directors while the carve up of PR13359 was being planned and implemented.
Nige + Huljich = AVZ
Nige + Klaus = AJN
Huljich + Klaus = ANL
AVZ + AJN + ANL =

all imo

Hi Chilla, Nigel has already resigned from AJN. What plausible action do you see Nigel can take at this stage to clean out his house? To be honest I don’t see any.

 

[Samus]

Probably not much can be done with Klaus..........but Nige and Huljich may have something to answer for as they were AVZ directors while the carve up of PR13359 was being planned and implemented.
Nige + Huljich = AVZ
Nige + Klaus = AJN
Huljich + Klaus = ANL
AVZ + AJN + ANL =

all imo

Not exactly helpful for us.
Big dump on CSE open, come on Nige.

 

[Roon]

I'm on record saying $1.50 , but I know it upsets people . That's $75 mil for Nige .

Haha yeah mate I know we are probably aligned, just getting in ahead of the moonshine brigade. I chop and change between wanting a TO at your level or riding out the storm for a few more years and getting into production.

 

[Azzler]

IF we came through with full ML for all our origional tenament, no issues with ownership and hydro power all good, there's no reason to flip early anyway. It would make sense to build to production, ramp up, have finger in ore processing.
Then sell if it wanted to be sold.

But if we have ML but lots of troubles in the wind, I agree with the unfortunate $1.50 which is still huge for many investors.
Unfortunate because of the potential value of course.
But if we're unable to shake the pond scum of Z off of our backs, the risk is certainly there.

 

[Winenut]

They might have a spot open at the IGF for you Wino.

Do you want to put off the ML (if that's what it takes) for longer giving said dastardly characters more time to dream up ways to get everything?
Can you imagine the endless bullshit thrown at us if we decide to put off the ML for longer?
As others have said, if we are offered the ML now for RD, take it, then tie them up for years with the rest of it.
I don't peronally know the risks obviously, but waiting longer sounds riskier to me.

I'm dirty on all those mongrels too mate, but I'm not here to deliver Justice.

I get it Azz

Believe me I do

Yeah I'm not the magic justice fairy and I would like this all to be over with good coin safely in MY back pocket

It kills me that Felix hasn't stepped in and smashed some heads to get things happening in the way they should happen

All the BS talk about cleaning out corruption and making the DRC the go to destination for investment in a future green globe is such a lot of hot fucking air

Could we do a deal and actually tie up the goons in endless legal battles for years?

Personally I don't think so.

They'll be out with the brown paper bags for every fucking legal minister, every judge, every high ranking influential court or govt bureaucrat...you name it

Do I want AVZ to take full control of the assets that are legally theirs and get going on the project....hell yeah

Do I want AVZ to deliver the very best outcomes for the Congolese community....hell yeah

Do I want fucking criminals to steal my investment and then fuck over the Congolose people and pillage the Manono deposit with regard for no-one but themselves....fuck no

Do I want MY investment to attain the absolute highest value it should, through due legal process and benefitting all the many and varied parties along the way - Congolese communities, workers, contractors, the Govt through taxes and royalties and make me filthy rich at the same time?........absolutely fuck yeah

 

[CeckRaiseFold]

I'm on record saying $1.50 , but I know it upsets people . That's $75 mil for Nige .

I'm with you @Roon & @wombat74 ,$1.50 with ML and collaboration agreement and SEZ in hand. Those 3 things confirm mining rights, JV arrangement and fiscal terms.
So many construction and operational headaches and risks to navigate before name plate production is achieved and therefore IMO $1.50 is realistic in the next few months.
Big boys will not pay more, they'll just tell AVZ to move on alone then until we run into the next roadblock or corruption issue and bleed money along the way and come back with CRs or begging for a TO. The path to production is not a cake walk believe me. You get crooks coming out of the woodwork everywhere, importing materials, obtaining work visas, awarding contracts, getting licences and permits for everything and sundry there will be someone to appease, it never stops, I've been there.
With those above 3 things in hand it is the absolute best time for any small explorer without any mining experience to flip the monster find, take the money and reward the LTH. Rest is fantasy, but I'm sure this view will be shut down imminently.