AVZ Discussion 2022

[Roon]

Does anyone have an experience where a road show was conducted with the company in long term suspension or just suspension in general ?Personally I don't . I'm feeling good about this .

I just see the roadshow as a means for management to try and reassure SH's that things are still being done (our 'activities in the DRC'), and that there is still hope of favourable outcome - prior to being roasted at the AGM. I imagine this is being done to prevent everyone at that event rightfully complaining they have received no information about the goings on over the last months. As such, I don't see the planning of a roadshow as a hint that they expect everything to have been sorted, or that they have big news pieces like a TO or anything to present.

I think its just going to be more strategic propaganda - if a little deeper than the fluff seen in the ASX announcements - to allay expected criticism.

 

[Ozthescot]

I just see the roadshow as a means for management to try and reassure SH's that things are still being done (our 'activities in the DRC'), and that there is still hope of favourable outcome - prior to being roasted at the AGM. I imagine this is being done to prevent everyone at that event rightfully complaining they have received no information about the goings on over the last months. As such, I don't see the planning of a roadshow as a hint that they expect everything to have been sorted, or that they have big news pieces like a TO or anything to present.

I think its just going to be more strategic propaganda - if a little deeper than the fluff seen in the ASX announcements - to allay expected criticism.

I agree Roon, I think this is exactly what's at play here!

 

[whales]

Does anyone have an experience where a road show was conducted with the company in long term suspension or just suspension in general ?Personally I don't . Is this cause for optimism ?

The only optimism from the roadshow is to gauge what the major shareholders would agree to regarding a price for a successful takeover or joint venture partnership with someone like RIO or Piedmont just my opinion .

 

[Hemicuda]

I agree Roon, I think this is exactly what's at play here!

Without substantial news, be it at a road show, via zoom or in person at the agm, Nige and co are going to be skinned alive. They are dumber then dogshit if they don’t see this as being the only outcome.

 

[JasonM]

Without substantial news, be it at a road show, via zoom or in person at the agm, Nige and co are going to be skinned alive. They are dumber then dogshit if they don’t see this as being the only outcome.

I agree, why would they do a roadshow if they're going to get slammed by shareholders, better just suck it up once at the agm than put themselves through it twice. if they have no ml there is little point in having a roadshow. I do take confidence from the roadshow planning as that must mean, imo, that they will have positive updates out by then and are wanting to rebuild shareholder confidence and trust.

 

[TDITD]

I just see the roadshow as a means for management to try and reassure SH's that things are still being done (our 'activities in the DRC'), and that there is still hope of favourable outcome - prior to being roasted at the AGM. I imagine this is being done to prevent everyone at that event rightfully complaining they have received no information about the goings on over the last months. As such, I don't see the planning of a roadshow as a hint that they expect everything to have been sorted, or that they have big news pieces like a TO or anything to present.

I think its just going to be more strategic propaganda - if a little deeper than the fluff seen in the ASX announcements - to allay expected criticism.

I don't reckon that's their play here Roon. (Bloody better not be, as a few anecdotes, sighs and well-timed eye-rolls from Nigel at the roadshow isn't going to placate us shareholders)

With what we are seeing on twitter, from Serge an our lawyers meeting with the tanganyika govenor to the deleted tweet from Christian about more litigation it looks like we are moving closer and making progress, I would venture to posit we are talking deals now instead of the criminal acts by the Chinese, even closing in on those deals too albeit in DRC time.

Felix and the DRC are on the international stage, the US sent delegates over recently and held meetings over 'critical minerals'. Behind the scenes it seems there is a USA vs China battle for the huge minerals within Africa. Felix wants democracy and to root out corruption he wants prosperity for the DRC, China aren't fans of democracy or a business environment where they cannot bribe so obviously and with China being in the DRC for a while now, well its obvious the DRC isn't prospering.

If Felix fucks this up by allowing AVZ to be screwed over then its not looking good for his prospects or the DRCs, he will look a bit silly too after the IGF incriminated Cominiere and Zijin. They will be left with simply the Chinese, who they know are screwing them over. I imagine, as many reports have stated coming out of the DRC they are annoyed with how little they are getting back from their deals with the Chinese within the mining sector. Unfortunately for us I wouldn't be surprised if this was a reason for the ML hold up with a hard negotiation over the other 15%, as when the ML is granted remember 10% to DRC. Maybe the Gov want as much of that as they can get, and are aiming for 20%, leaving us with 5% to make it 56%, I'd be chuffed with 10% an they get 5% to leave DRC govt with 15% an they also get a percentage of AVZ shares, leaving us with 61% and them with a valuable holding in Dathcom plus dividends down the track.

Anyhow I got side tracked a little with a brain-fart apologies, I'm thinking the Roadshows will be after the AGM. Not too much time between now and the AGM for them to go on a roadshow - an that's without mentioning all shit happening atm, where will they get the time? ....unless all is agreed, and all we are waiting on is a sign off from big daddy Felix

Something that made me smile a dark smile is remember that the scummy shorters are still paying interest after all this time, what fun it will be coming out of suspension with good news of ML, holding the project at a higher percentage, CATL $$ and a blow your socks off BFS.

 

[wombat74]

I just see the roadshow as a means for management to try and reassure SH's that things are still being done (our 'activities in the DRC'), and that there is still hope of favourable outcome - prior to being roasted at the AGM. I imagine this is being done to prevent everyone at that event rightfully complaining they have received no information about the goings on over the last months. As such, I don't see the planning of a roadshow as a hint that they expect everything to have been sorted, or that they have big news pieces like a TO or anything to present.

I think its just going to be more strategic propaganda - if a little deeper than the fluff seen in the ASX announcements - to allay expected criticism.

Then why not just release a detailed update on their website /ASX ? Why would they want to walk into the lion's den ? Face to face with an angry beast . You would only do it if you were confident the beast had been tamed .

 

[Retrobyte]

Then why not just release a detailed update on their website /ASX ? Why would they want to walk into the lion's den ? Face to face with an angry beast . You would only do it if you were confident the beast had been tamed .

They usually release the roadshow preso via an announcement immediately before the first roadshow, so I'm guessing there will be enough in the announcement to take the heat out of the roadshow

 

[wombat74]

They usually release the roadshow preso via an announcement immediately before the first roadshow, so I'm guessing there will be enough in the announcement to take the heat out of the roadshow

Exactly . Has to be some encouraging news prior . Otherwise they will be like lambs to the slaughter .

 

[Doc]

Then why not just release a detailed update on their website /ASX ? Why would they want to walk into the lion's den ? Face to face with an angry beast . You would only do it if you were confident the beast had been tamed .

Nigel better keep his arse in the DRC until he has pen to paper!

 

[Elmitso]

I have sent an email to AVZ, professionally airing my view that they should provide more information and why, and humbly explaining that holders can deal with suspension if they have something to cling on to. I have put off contacting them for months, and am under no illusion that it will affect anything/get them to do anything differently. If nothing else it is another voice added to the equation.

 

[ozmacca]

I have sent an email to AVZ, professionally airing my view that they should provide more information and why, and humbly explaining that holders can deal with suspension if they have something to cling on to. I have put off contacting them for months, and am under no illusion that it will affect anything/get them to do anything differently. If nothing else it is another voice added to the equation.

I did similar (for the 1st time) a few weeks ago and got crickets, hope you have better luck than me!

 

[wombat74]

I have sent an email to AVZ, professionally airing my view that they should provide more information and why, and humbly explaining that holders can deal with suspension if they have something to cling on to. I have put off contacting them for months, and am under no illusion that it will affect anything/get them to do anything differently. If nothing else it is another voice added to the equation.

"We are engaged with DRC authorities and making good progress to have the ML awarded." Recent reply from head office

 

[TDITD]

"We are engaged with DRC authorities and making good progress to have the ML awarded." Recent reply from head office

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Just curious . The announcement says "planned " roadshows . How long have these road shows been in the pipeline for ?

Wombie I think the only thing you should be planning regarding the roadshow is what to wear. You need to put on your best suit because the latest word from Nell’s is that you still have a chance if you play your cards right, dress appropriately, shout her a drink or two and don’t stare at her tits…. and she doesn’t mind a bloke with a good sense of humour

I’m not happy I won’t be able to attend the Sydney roadshow as my partner has a broken kneecap and throw osteoporosis with that and she takes priority over the event.

I can say this much, if you’re expecting answers, good luck with that. Don’t let Nigel off the hook, he does his best to keep his cards close to his chest, but at the same time I can tell you that he honestly wants this project to succeed and in fairness to him, he is doing (and has been doing) more than anyone else to get this project going, including trying to deal with these Chinese arseholes and corrupt DRC officials.

If you hear that there are any Chinese shareholders (like Lithium Plus) in the back of the room (where they try to hide inconspicuously) make sure you all give them a big FUCK OFF and let them know that we all know they have been trying to screw us. And don’t forget for a second that they are a lying dirty sneaky bunch of low life corrupt conspirators that have been trying to undermine us this whole time.

Apart from that Wombie, have a nice evening with Nells!!

 

[wombat74]

Wombie I think the only thing you should be planning regarding the roadshow is what to wear. You need to put on your best suit because the latest word from Nell’s is that you still have a chance if you play your cards right, dress appropriately, shout her a drink or two and don’t stare at her tits…. and she doesn’t mind a bloke with a good sense of humour

I’m not happy I won’t be able to attend the Sydney roadshow as my partner has a broken kneecap and throw osteoporosis with that and she takes priority over the event.

I can say this much, if you’re expecting answers, good luck with that. Don’t let Nigel off the hook, he does his best to keep his cards close to his chest, but at the same time I can tell you that he honestly wants this project to succeed and in fairness to him, he is doing (and has been doing) more than anyone else to get this project going, including trying to deal with these Chinese arseholes and corrupt DRC officials.

If you hear that there are any Chinese shareholders (like Lithium Plus) in the back of the room (where they try to hide inconspicuously) make sure you all give them a big FUCK OFF and let them know that we all know they have been trying to screw us. And don’t forget for a second that they are a lying dirty sneaky bunch of low life corrupt conspirators that have been trying to undermine us this whole time.

Apart from that Wombie, have a nice evening with Nells!!

I'll pull out the Safari Suit . Pineapple daiquiris are on me .

 

[John25]

Ok …first things first ..Where’s the fucking ASX in the scheme of things ,SP goes up ,their all over it like a blow fly on a piece of shit ,wanting to know how,what,why & when …we are a top 200 company now & not 1 enquiry from this gutless watchdog (poodle)
Roadshow what a crock ,still waiting for the last shareholder invitation only meeting to happen .In general there’s a few of us with big $$$$ tied up in AVZ ,so when you buy around the 2c-20c mark it adds up to big $$$ so whoever was handing out financial advise *^%#**
Good news got behind the wheel today Nurse Ratchet is finally back to work but practically my sole away that 1 wouldnt go out of 1st gear & walking pace only only on property …was looking for drones or spy planes …fuck its going to be a lonnnng 6 months .Wonder what license will come first Mining or Drivers

 

[BRICK]

Ok …first things first ..Where’s the fucking ASX in the scheme of things ,SP goes up ,their all over it like a blow fly on a piece of shit ,wanting to know how,what,why & when …we are a top 200 company now & not 1 enquiry from this gutless watchdog (poodle)
Roadshow what a crock ,still waiting for the last shareholder invitation only meeting to happen .In general there’s a few of us with big $$$$ tied up in AVZ ,so when you buy around the 2c-20c mark it adds up to big $$$ so whoever was handing out financial advise *^%#**
Good news got behind the wheel today Nurse Ratchet is finally back to work but practically my sole away that 1 wouldnt go out of 1st gear & walking pace only only on property …was looking for drones or spy planes …fuck its going to be a lonnnng 6 months .Wonder what license will come first Mining or Drivers View attachment 18502

Hope shearing goes well mate

 

[Remark]

Ok …first things first ..Where’s the fucking ASX in the scheme of things ,SP goes up ,their all over it like a blow fly on a piece of shit ,wanting to know how,what,why & when …we are a top 200 company now & not 1 enquiry from this gutless watchdog (poodle)
Roadshow what a crock ,still waiting for the last shareholder invitation only meeting to happen .In general there’s a few of us with big $$$$ tied up in AVZ ,so when you buy around the 2c-20c mark it adds up to big $$$ so whoever was handing out financial advise *^%#**
Good news got behind the wheel today Nurse Ratchet is finally back to work but practically my sole away that 1 wouldnt go out of 1st gear & walking pace only only on property …was looking for drones or spy planes …fuck its going to be a lonnnng 6 months .Wonder what license will come first Mining or Drivers View attachment 18502

All the best John

 

[Doc]

So any reason why AVZ doesn’t get tagged on these posts? Are Momentum at these meeting on behalf of AVZ or…….?