No wonder William does as he is told.I wish they'd hurry up & bury the queenI think I've reached royal saturation point!
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AVZ Discussion 2022
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LOCKY82
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For $1.50 the can have a few spaces in the fucking car park! Where are people coming up with this $1.50 TO amount? How has that been calculated? There's some smart folks that have produced mind blowing figures once at production using in depth calculations. Can someone please point me in the direction of the calculations used to get this $1.50 TO amount that's doing the rounds!?
Mr Inappropriate
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She gave birth to that? Poor lady…I wish they'd hurry up & bury the queen
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TDITD
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For $1.50 the can have a few spaces in the fucking car park! Where are people coming up with this $1.50 TO amount? How has that been calculated? There's some smart folks that have produced mind blowing figures once at production using in depth calculations. Can someone please point me in the direction of the calculations used to get this $1.50 TO amount that's doing the rounds!?
I don't think much TOs have a high premium on current SP. Isn't it normally 0-50%?
So that's probably where the 1.50 comes from given we haven't been trading for awhile.
If TO very soon then won't likely be much more unless the TO is further down the track and SP has had time to climb.
Samus
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I think the number is largely hypothetical and possibly started by wombat some time last year. What if we just start comparing it to the biggest mining takeover ever? :For $1.50 the can have a few spaces in the fucking car park! Where are people coming up with this $1.50 TO amount? How has that been calculated? There's some smart folks that have produced mind blowing figures once at production using in depth calculations. Can someone please point me in the direction of the calculations used to get this $1.50 TO amount that's doing the rounds!?
Acquirer – Rio Tinto; Target Company – Alcan (38.1bn)
Rio Tinto Canada Holding (RTCH), an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of UK-based Rio Tinto, acquired Alcan in November 2007. The largest metals and mining deal in history was closed under the mandatory acquisition provisions of the Canada Business Corporations Act (CBCA).AVZ wise this gives us a sp of around $10.50/share ($15.70aud). However Alcan was an 80yo established business.
History suggests for a mining company which isn't established the price could be up to 8b or a more measly $2.2/share ($3.3aud) in AVZ's case.
But who knows with the world's largest deposit of hard rock lithium in a battery metals super cycle.
Trouble is we need to think in market cap and not sp with an unfortunate 3.6b soi.
How much is somebody willing to pay for a licenced tenement in the middle of Africa lacking in infrastructure and transport is the real hypothetical question and so perhaps $1.5 ($3.6b usd) doesn't look so far fetched?
No doubt there is much better value if we can bring it to mine. $40b (au) minimum in 2-3 years (once producing) imho and that was just worked out with semi retarded vege maths but when compared to figures from constantin still seems somewhere in the ballpark assuming at least 61% ownership.
Are management still up for the challenge after all this BS is said and done. Or will the perception of shareholder value be altered. Guess we'll see.
* All imo talking total BS with minimal research.
Bring on the f'ng mine in all seriousness - starting yesterday.
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ChrisU
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Last update was obtuse. It looks complex. ASX Continuous Disclosure Rules cover most of it imo
Can anyone answer why the Cong verdict is taking so long ? Verdict is 3 weeks over due . We know he is a crook . We know he did a dodgy with Dathomir . Faked the "purchase" of AVZ 15% . Do we know why it's taking soooooooo long to give a verdict ? Watch for the ICC Case Conference that doesn't happen . Why is CHINA still in the house ?
TDITD
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I have asked a journalist for an update on the cong case who initially reported on it, hopefully we get a reply :
The longer it takes the more the mind naturally edges towards a brown paper bag conclusion to the case.
Check ASX listing guidelines. Ongoing extensions to voluntary suspension are granted if the co can demonstrate that by reopening the financial viability of the co would be jeopardised. As wombat said, reopening without ML would be suicide.
Winenut
Go AVZ!
So much takeover talk.....again
Where does it all come from?????
Why does it come out now
Who are the poster's that come out of nowhere in numbers to talk up a take over???
Always seems to be a low-ball, bs valuation, god save us, we're struggling, dying, save me I'm a LT holder, get me out of here type of TO???
Lots more value in this thing than sellin' out for a buck fiddy IMO
Get it sorted Nige.
C'mon!!!
Where does it all come from?????
Why does it come out now
Who are the poster's that come out of nowhere in numbers to talk up a take over???
Always seems to be a low-ball, bs valuation, god save us, we're struggling, dying, save me I'm a LT holder, get me out of here type of TO???
Lots more value in this thing than sellin' out for a buck fiddy IMO
Get it sorted Nige.
C'mon!!!
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DiscoDanNZ
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Collecting brown paper bags from the US?
If movies are correct and we all know they are then I believe the CIA uses briefcases. We've all seen the kinds of snacks the Chinese traveler's try and sneak passed Border Patrol, maybe they want to try some Root Beer and Twinkies now.
So much takeover talk.....again
Where does it all come from?????
Why does it come out now
Who are the poster's that come out of nowhere in numbers to talk up a take over???
Always seems to be a low-ball, bs valuation, god save us, we're struggling, dying, save me I'm a LT holder, get me out of here type of TO???
Lots more value in this thing than sellin' out for a buck fiddy IMO
Get it sorted Nige.
C'mon!!!
Unless any of us bought at the recent peak above $1.30 we all stand to gain from the takeover, but it will be the ATO giving us all the final pineapple
So in conclusion, the Zijin Corporation in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the CIA are forcing the DRC to have AVZ taken over in a fiendish plot to allow us all to be given the pineapple by the ATO...
If movies are correct and we all know they are then I believe the CIA uses briefcases. We've all seen the kinds of snacks the Chinese traveler's try and sneak passed Border Patrol, maybe they want to try some Root Beer and Twinkies now.
Unless any of us bought at the recent peak above $1.30 we all stand to gain from the takeover, but it will be the ATO giving us all the final pineapple
So in conclusion, the Zijin Corporation in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the CIA are forcing the DRC to have AVZ taken over in a fiendish plot to allow us all to be given the pineapple by the ATO...
We also stand to lose from a takeover in the long term.
Not sure why we're entertaining the thoughts of a takeover. You got to ask yourself, have the fundamentals changed in the COmpany so significantly that you are uncomfortable to continue holding? IF so - you may wish to revisit your holdings.
Myself: nothing has changed significantly, imo.
TheCount
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As an Aussie it's hard to read articles like the one in the AFR today:-
AFR Article
In summary it says Australian miners of Lithium will struggle to make batteries and that we're coming from a long way behind in trying to make it work. Later in the article, Greenbushes is mentioned - I found this interesting.....
As a holder of AVZ I am heartened by the article later states battery or OEM customers are asking "when can I have more and where can I get it?".....
Time for DRC to stop the overseas juggernauts and focus on the Battery Council to help mitigate the perceived "geopolitical risk".
Not long now folks.
TC.
AFR Article
In summary it says Australian miners of Lithium will struggle to make batteries and that we're coming from a long way behind in trying to make it work. Later in the article, Greenbushes is mentioned - I found this interesting.....
As a holder of AVZ I am heartened by the article later states battery or OEM customers are asking "when can I have more and where can I get it?".....
Time for DRC to stop the overseas juggernauts and focus on the Battery Council to help mitigate the perceived "geopolitical risk".
Not long now folks.
TC.
Frank
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*Fyi, To add, I see where,
Vidiye Tshimanga summoned to the General Prosecutor's Office near the Court of Kinshasa / Gombe this Wednesday, September 21
At the heart of a scandal linking him to what is considered to be an attempt to peddle influence with supposed investors in the mines, Vidiye Tshimanga, former strategic adviser to the President of the Republic, Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi, is summoned, this Wednesday, September 21 at 11 a.m., at the general prosecutor’s office near the Kinshasa/Gombe Court, “for a communication concerning him”
Vidiye Tshimanga resigned from his post on Friday, September 16, following a video that went viral on social networks, where he talks to supposed investors, who filmed him without his knowledge, and where he promises them security and charges a 20% commission on future trades.
Departure of Monusco and Rwandan aggression: Felix Tshisekedi awaits a clear position from the UN
Felix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, President of the Republic
For several days, world leaders have been flocking to New York for the annual meeting of the United Nations General Assembly.
The 77th ordinary session of the UN General Assembly sounds like a back-to-school season for Heads of State and Government.
Since the appearance of Covid 19 in 2020, this year's General Assembly will be held face-to-face for the first time. All the Heads of State and Government will follow one another in front of the podium of the Glass Palace for their speeches.
The speech ball begins this Tuesday, September 20, 2020 with the President of Brazil Jair Bolsonaro. Joe Biden, the host, will intervene, unless changed, on the second day, because of his British mission.
The Heads of State and Government of 193 Member States will deliver their statements on the theme: "A watershed moment: transformative solutions in the face of intricate challenges".
Arrived in New York since Monday, September 19, accompanied by the first lady Denise Nyakeru, it is a high moral and determined Félix Tshisekedi who is about to speak in front of the spotlight of the media.
Without a doubt, he will not fail to denounce all the warlike maneuvers of Rwanda and the crimes of their secular arms of the M23.
President Tshisekedi will also not fail to hold the UN to its responsibilities in the face of the security situation in the east of the country.
Disavowed by a population tired of seeing the blue helmets camped in the eastern escarpments without convincing results for two decades while negative forces, reinforced by neighboring countries, are causing misery and desolation to the population, MONUSCO is waiting for a way out. honorable exit on the part of his principal.
For a good environment
Crowned with his stripes of president in office of ECCAS and SADC, the president of the DRC will present himself at the tribune of the United Nations with credible alternatives for the green economy and for climate change.
The forests of Central Africa and the Congo Basin constitute a global lung.
It is therefore legitimate for him to claim compensation from polluters.
The Head of State will also raise the issue of the production of strategic minerals, of which the DRC is full.
Beyond official speeches, President Tshisekedi activated his diplomatic machine.
VPM Christophe Lutundula and his colleague Ève Bazaiba are very active in the corridors of the Palais de Verre, each in their own sector.
Other members of the government, including the treasurer Nicolas Kazadi and the Minister of Communication and Media Patrick Muyaya, are backing up the office of the head of state led by Professors Colette Bwatshia and Serge Tshibangu.
The latter is very involved in the Nairobi and Luanda processes, two complementary peaceful approaches which have obtained the support of the United Nations, the European Union and the African Union, in addition to that of national opinion.
The September 2022 General Assembly is a major challenge for Félix Tshisekedi who intends to consolidate all the diplomatic successes achieved in recent years.
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