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AVZ Discussion 2022
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One could assume, all this HYPE about MOM supporting this ICSID that ha sbeen SUSPENDED because FEES were not paid by both sides AVZ and the DRC
So this comment could be challenged...imo
Avz has not updated any info regarding these ICSID being paid..!
So its sounds like they are still SUSPENDED...!
Even if AVZ have a decision in their favour ,there could be still APPEALS,Refusal to abide by any decisions by the DRC
Also lets all remember this MATTERS are just that a ARBITRATION case.
At the conclusion of the process, the arbitrator makes an award, supported by reasons after affording each party procedural fairness.
Once registered, the award can only be set aside on a question of law (similar to an Appeal) or on specific legislative grounds.
So this comment could be challenged...imo
Avz has not updated any info regarding these ICSID being paid..!
So its sounds like they are still SUSPENDED...!
Even if AVZ have a decision in their favour ,there could be still APPEALS,Refusal to abide by any decisions by the DRC
Also lets all remember this MATTERS are just that a ARBITRATION case.
At the conclusion of the process, the arbitrator makes an award, supported by reasons after affording each party procedural fairness.
Once registered, the award can only be set aside on a question of law (similar to an Appeal) or on specific legislative grounds.
We have other matters hanging over AVZ heads by the sounds.
Nigel company announcement DEC 2024
Company Statement AFP Investigation AVZ Minerals Limited (“AVZ”, “the Company”) acknowledges that, as referred to in recent media reports, the Australian Federal Police (AFP) have executed search warrants in respect of allegations of bribery related to the Manono Lithium Project in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
AVZ previously obtained legal advice in relation to the management of the bribery and corruption risk associated with doing business in the DRC. That advice was leaked to and reported by the media in February 2023.
Nigel company announcement DEC 2024
Company Statement AFP Investigation AVZ Minerals Limited (“AVZ”, “the Company”) acknowledges that, as referred to in recent media reports, the Australian Federal Police (AFP) have executed search warrants in respect of allegations of bribery related to the Manono Lithium Project in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
AVZ previously obtained legal advice in relation to the management of the bribery and corruption risk associated with doing business in the DRC. That advice was leaked to and reported by the media in February 2023.
100%Here's a thought
Don't let lowlife fuckwits destroy the good conversation between informed and balanced investors on TSE
The gutter dwellers won't be winning anything......anywhere......anytime.............they've already lost
And they know it.........
They fucking know it
Which is what pisses them off and spirals them into their misguided crusade to destroy AVZ and side with corrupt elements in the DRC and corrupt facilitators like Zijin, Cong, Cominiere and the CCP
Block them, put them on ignore and keep this thread free from the cancer they try to inflict
No-one has time for fuckwits....
There's just a few you have to press the button on and ignore.......sweet
Or as Mark Twain said:
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
The corrupt pricks deserve what they get and if their 100 mill population are to piss weak to stand up and demand change then they deserve their corrupt leaders.
*No I don't think they will immediately fold . I doubt anyone would think that . If the DRC/China's first line of attack up until 3 weeks ago was to run AVZ bust before the ICSID hearing , then I guess the Locke funding "might" have an influence moving forward . I think we need to remember AVZ are pushing for 2 different outcomes . The first is a negotiated outcome . The second is the ICSID outcome . Without funding neither could be possible .
*If the plan was to run AVZ coffers dry then how could a deal have been close ? The Ministry of Mines themselves only a few months ago stated a deal has never been close . That's why we need Locke Funding .
I'd ask a different question . Can we now get an outcome ? Either Negotiated or ICSID . Did our chances of getting an outcome increase with the Locke Funding ? I'd like to think our chances of at least an ICSID outcome have increased considerably .
It was made clear by the AVZ Chair, after questions at the AGM, what AVZ should be pushing for and why.
Why not call the dog by it's real name?
It is not DRC/China, but China/DRC.
Any money pumped into the DRC by any organisation, is immediately syphoned off by the corrupt fuckers and monetised into expensive watches, real estate all over the world and expensive shiny cars. The more blink the better.
5, 6 centuries ago, the European 'explorers' used mirrors and marbles, nothing has changed.
China is fully aware of this and couldn't give a rat's arse, simply because it suits their final ambitions, get as cheap as possible and without losing any lives huge mineral deposits to be able to control the world.
Control of the world is their end game.
They will use any method to achieve this, legal, or illegal, all in the name to further China.
To achieve that they have completely fucked entire Africa over and can make Africa jump the way Xi wants them to jump.
And there one has to understand that China doesn't mean China, but means the upper echelons of the Chinese communist party, which is an organisation more ruthless and corrupt than Putin, prepared to knock their own comrades off, if they don't tow the line, or enrich themself without taking the hierarchy in consideration.
That is what AVZ is dealing with.
Shane the absolute fuckhead from Tasmania is so far up himself and so confused with his million aliases, that he can't see and understand that he is being used in this complete shemozzle, he is feeling mighty important.
I can't wait till the law catches up with the fucking idiot.
As they say 'pride comes before the fall'.
Don't be too surprised if Shane morphs himself into another identity, fairly soon, adding to his enormous list of fukhead personalities.
Even Sigmund Freud would have to stop all his work and going to the pub, to deal with this obsessive dangerous idiot.
You can pick that soft cock a mile away
Ashlee
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I will be most comfortable when AVZ announce they have paid the fees for the ICSID as I don’t trust the DRC to act in good faith towards AVZ.
Maybe be AVZ company announcements this is more to the truth Company ANNOUNCEMENT OCT 2024
Nigel said in company announcement 16 OCT 2024
The DRC HAVE NOT complied with the
interim orders
Made by the ICSID tribunal on 16 January 2024.
The DRC has still not complied with the interim orders
The next step in the proceedings is for AVZ and the DRC to complete document production which is currently underway.
The matter is currently scheduled for hearing in June 2025.
ICC matter...imo
the proceedings to date and having regard to the failure by Cominière to comply with the emergency orders.
I would be more comfortable if the DRC kleptocrats paid its own damn fees, instead of leaving it to AVZ to pony-up for them.
And how ridiculous is it that the ICSID even has such a disgraceful system in the first place. It's just another unproductive sunk cost for AVZ, which it will need to somehow claw back after the arbitration award is made...and after the DRC stalls and challenges both the decision and the independence of the arbiters...and any other meritless challenge it can initiate based on any fantasy it can conjure up.
Where's my drink?
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My personal concerns as a Share Holder, how long with this $15 mill last with this long drawn out SAGA, and where will the next lot of money come from..??????????
AVZ S H U S 20 mill that has gone missing from pass AVZ LAWYERS ESCROW ACCOUNT..!
Now remember this was suggested money for 15% ownship.
So catch 22 matter..!
This is the LOCKE DEAL not the 20 mill AVZ wanted ...WHY
Committed Amount •
Up to US$15,000,000. •
Access to US$5,000,000 of the Committed Amount is subject to, among other things, AVZ demonstrating a need for the additional funds and submitting a budget acceptable to Locke
AVZ S H U S 20 mill that has gone missing from pass AVZ LAWYERS ESCROW ACCOUNT..!
Now remember this was suggested money for 15% ownship.
So catch 22 matter..!
This is the LOCKE DEAL not the 20 mill AVZ wanted ...WHY
Committed Amount •
Up to US$15,000,000. •
Access to US$5,000,000 of the Committed Amount is subject to, among other things, AVZ demonstrating a need for the additional funds and submitting a budget acceptable to Locke
I think everyone is aware the CCP controls the DRC Government . That doesn't diminish the satisfaction we are going to get by dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID final Verdict, and if found guilty , exposing them for one of the biggest acts of Corruption and Theft against a Foreign Investor in recent history .An act of Corruption and Theft of Global Significance . Exposing them for having lied to the International Investment Community with regards to the DRC stamping out corruption where they see it . Lied about the DRC now being a safe place for foreign investors . The main game now is dragging the DRC Government to the ICSID . Talk by some that the DRC will not honour the ICSID final Verdict is irrelevant . If the DRC Gov is Guilty they need to be exposed in the International Courts . If they are confident , they could start by paying their own ICSID fees .
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Is this your personal assumption …?
Because one would assume there is no evidence to support such Assumptions
Well I’m one that is not aware to this matter
Please could you direct me where I could find such evidence
Winenut
Go AVZ!
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Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years
Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin
This is NOT the TSE I came here for
And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g
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