Winenut
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AVZ Discussion 2022
- Thread starter GazDix
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Would it be worth sending in a complaint via "Feedback" to the AFR about Tom Richardson? Surely as a prestigious media outlet, they would be interested in ensuring their journalists and tainted by money/bias. I think it's absolutely clear that Tom Richardson has some form of external influence/payments ti cause him to seemingly attack the company like he does.
My problem is I'm not as well versed in his history against the company, and can't connect all the dots to present to the AFR to have them take me seriously.
Here's the link: https://www.afr.com/contact-us/support
Any takers?
My problem is I'm not as well versed in his history against the company, and can't connect all the dots to present to the AFR to have them take me seriously.
Here's the link: https://www.afr.com/contact-us/support
Any takers?
Many shareholders have contacted the AFR and no reply was forthcoming. It is an absolute disgrace the way this bloke operates.
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marksmann007
Regular
Pours water on those saying US is trying to influence.
Unfortunately relying on those Congolese in government that are not corrupt... Well.. good luck to us. Maybe 1 person versus 100. Especially when Felix seems corrupt.
marksmann007
Regular
I’ve no idea who he is Daz so I can’t confirm his credibility.
He sounds connected but who or what can you really believe anymore?
I read somewhere to keep an eye on his posts from an informed poster fighting for our cause.
What people and countries forget that if you sign up / have membership to International Bodies such as the ICC & ICSID its all in - you cant simply ignore ruling due to the fact that it doesn't suit you - if you want to deal with the international community then you simply need to be an adult about things and put your big boy pants on.
The DRC want to have their cake and eat it - they are happy to take/embezzle international investment/money but sook when action is taken against them and claim to be the victim when their hands get caught in the cookie jar.
The corruption is called out for what it is - inaction is an endorsement of the corruption that is currently occurring. This whole spectacle clearly sits at Felix's feet.
I am so fed up with the DRC and their shenanigans that talking to them seems to be a waste of time - I am very much looking forward to them being formally reprimanded by the ICC & ICSID and called out for their corrupt behavior. Financial penalties/compensation need to be awarded to AVZ.
You dont open your house to thieves and complain about being robbed and thats what Felix has done with his government.
There is no doubt that there are many honorable people in the DRC we just need to support them where we can.
Regards,
SilentOne
Winenut
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Have done it on a number of occassions in the past.....never received any acknowledgement from the AFR
Spikerama
Regular
You're better off making a complaint to the Australian Press Council; as they handle complaints over standards and breaches of legitimacy, fairness and accuracy.
Kind of like an ombudsman for the press.
Samus
Top 20
On exactly the same page here, but it's a sham how the arbitration processes take so long with a time sensitive issue such as this.
Already the Chinese parasites have moved in to the point where it's impossible to extract them.
All we can do is wait now not only for the various rulings but for the inevitable multiple appeals the China backed Congolese criminals will lodge. Years of shit ahead.
I hope we can push things like emergency orders to the limits and rack up a good amount of fines which are payable to force the DRC's hand in order for them to approach us before time with with some sort of fair settlement resolution.
I'm my view management should cut off all negotiations and push ICC/ICSID hard until they are forced to come to the party of their own volition and until such time ignore their bullshit, lies and stalling tactics except to counter the disinformation they'll spew.
The enforcability is a concern though, not to mention the additional years and years that this would take.
Even after a US court in 2021 confirmed the US600m DigOil ICC judgement from 2018, opening the possibility of DRC assets in the states being seized, where are we now?
Answer: DigOil hasn't received a cent yet, nearly 7 years on. Yet the international community is still dealing with DRC anyway, big boy pants or not.
In a judgement that could possibly be five times the size of that one, or even more, what's the likelihood of a speedy resolution and an actual delivery of those funds?
How many here will have passed on by the time we get funds, if ever?
Sure the ICSID might have some better leverage than the ICC towards enforcement, and the World Bank connection is useful given the DRC's needs, but let's not kid ourselves that this would be a timely or smooth process.
I guess we could leverage a huge judgement payment into some kind of a deal, but again this would be years and years away from fruition if having to await a conclusion of all our arbitration cases.
Roon,
I tend to be a Glass Half Full type of guy - ICSID outcomes for both Tanzania and Gambia fills me with hope.
I dont believe it will drag on for years.
Regards,
SilentOne
Samus
Top 20
See what's the alternative though Roon?
It seems that they need to be forced to take a position sooner than later.
After something like two and a half years of "negotiations" the ministry of Mines are officially saying they aren't undertaking any negotiations.
So negotiations until they come to the table voluntarily seem like a total waste of time which plays into Chinese hands.
AVZ has stated time and again that we're willing to negotiate.
We need a way to pressure them hard in the right direction.
oxxa23
Regular
if ever i'm having too good a day i just come on here and read your posts roon...
Totally agree, we obviously need to push forward with ICSID and ICC. That's the only pressure point we've got.
My only dispute is with those who say we shouldn't compromise whatsoever and should await the eventual ICC/ICSID rulings. As if that's a simple pathway invariably leading to a positive outcome in some reasonable time frame.
I say keep pressing our arbitration cases with full vigor, up to the point where some deal might be possible that gets us a PE. Then we try to leverage that into a half-decent sale price to a major thats interested in a world class lithium deposit and that has the know-how and willingness to operate in this challenging jurisdiction. Might be a short list, but the upside is so high that I imagine we could find a suitor. If that takes some trade-offs or concessions then so be it. And to have any hope of getting there before I go grey(er), we need our licensing/ownership issues to be settled one way or the other.
Otherwise sure, if nobody comes to the table, then we go full ICSID and sit in for the long haul.
Winenut
Go AVZ!
Seems to be the concensus they are legit and there is both a French and an English version
Fucking completely contradicts this official statement below made a few weeks ago by the same organisation where they advise Felix they are having amicable discussions with AVZ and the case is being reviewed by experts
Fuck me..... you couldn't make this shit up
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