AVZ Discussion 2022

BRICK

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It's a curse.....I can't help it

And don't even start me on "lose" and "loose"!!!

Aaaaahhh!!!!

Get me another farking drink.....
Couch or sofa?

My wife and I argue that regularly
 
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Frank

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Winenut

Go AVZ!
It's "toes" you boofhead. Not tows!
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: classic!!

Thank you Spike

I love it when I get called out and learn something!

Only happens very, very, very occassionally ..........bahahahaaa

Might have happened twice today :oops::D

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Winenut

Go AVZ!
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: classic!!

Thank you Spike

I love it when I get called out and learn something!

Only happens very, very, very occassionally ..........bahahahaaa

Might have happened twice today :oops::D

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Love the "boofhead" too by the way! :cool::p
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!


and that's about as shit a song as you'll get that made the charts in Oz!
 
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Elmitso

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Would it be worth sending in a complaint via "Feedback" to the AFR about Tom Richardson? Surely as a prestigious media outlet, they would be interested in ensuring their journalists and tainted by money/bias. I think it's absolutely clear that Tom Richardson has some form of external influence/payments ti cause him to seemingly attack the company like he does.

My problem is I'm not as well versed in his history against the company, and can't connect all the dots to present to the AFR to have them take me seriously.

Here's the link: https://www.afr.com/contact-us/support

Any takers?
 
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Dazmac66

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Would it be worth sending in a complaint via "Feedback" to the AFR about Tom Richardson? Surely as a prestigious media outlet, they would be interested in ensuring their journalists and tainted by money/bias. I think it's absolutely clear that Tom Richardson has some form of external influence/payments ti cause him to seemingly attack the company like he does.

My problem is I'm not as well versed in his history against the company, and can't connect all the dots to present to the AFR to have them take me seriously.

Here's the link: https://www.afr.com/contact-us/support

Any takers?
Many shareholders have contacted the AFR and no reply was forthcoming. It is an absolute disgrace the way this bloke operates.
 
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Retrobyte

Hates a beer
Couch or sofa?

My wife and I argue that regularly

Neither - since I was a kid my family have called it a lounge
 
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Dazmac66

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Somebody please tell me who this fellow is? He has been active on twitter in the AVZ realm for a long time and appears level headed. Anyone confirm his credibility? I have become a but wary for some reason!!
 
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Somebody please tell me who this fellow is? He has been active on twitter in the AVZ realm for a long time and appears level headed. Anyone confirm his credibility? I have become a but wary for some reason!!
I’ve no idea who he is Daz so I can’t confirm his credibility.
He sounds connected but who or what can you really believe anymore?
I read somewhere to keep an eye on his posts from an informed poster fighting for our cause.
 
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Frank

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SilentOne

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What people and countries forget that if you sign up / have membership to International Bodies such as the ICC & ICSID its all in - you cant simply ignore ruling due to the fact that it doesn't suit you - if you want to deal with the international community then you simply need to be an adult about things and put your big boy pants on.

The DRC want to have their cake and eat it - they are happy to take/embezzle international investment/money but sook when action is taken against them and claim to be the victim when their hands get caught in the cookie jar.

The corruption is called out for what it is - inaction is an endorsement of the corruption that is currently occurring. This whole spectacle clearly sits at Felix's feet.

I am so fed up with the DRC and their shenanigans that talking to them seems to be a waste of time - I am very much looking forward to them being formally reprimanded by the ICC & ICSID and called out for their corrupt behavior. Financial penalties/compensation need to be awarded to AVZ.

You dont open your house to thieves and complain about being robbed and thats what Felix has done with his government.

There is no doubt that there are many honorable people in the DRC we just need to support them where we can.

Regards,

SilentOne
 
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Winenut

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Would it be worth sending in a complaint via "Feedback" to the AFR about Tom Richardson? Surely as a prestigious media outlet, they would be interested in ensuring their journalists and tainted by money/bias. I think it's absolutely clear that Tom Richardson has some form of external influence/payments ti cause him to seemingly attack the company like he does.

My problem is I'm not as well versed in his history against the company, and can't connect all the dots to present to the AFR to have them take me seriously.

Here's the link: https://www.afr.com/contact-us/support

Any takers?
Have done it on a number of occassions in the past.....never received any acknowledgement from the AFR
 
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Spikerama

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Have done it on a number of occassions in the past.....never received any acknowledgement from the AFR
You're better off making a complaint to the Australian Press Council; as they handle complaints over standards and breaches of legitimacy, fairness and accuracy.

Kind of like an ombudsman for the press.
 
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Samus

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What people and countries forget that if you sign up / have membership to International Bodies such as the ICC & ICSID its all in - you cant simply ignore ruling due to the fact that it doesn't suit you - if you want to deal with the international community then you simply need to be an adult about things and put your big boy pants on.

The DRC want to have their cake and eat it - they are happy to take/embezzle international investment/money but sook when action is taken against them and claim to be the victim when their hands get caught in the cookie jar.

The corruption is called out for what it is - inaction is an endorsement of the corruption that is currently occurring. This whole spectacle clearly sits at Felix's feet.

I am so fed up with the DRC and their shenanigans that talking to them seems to be a waste of time - I am very much looking forward to them being formally reprimanded by the ICC & ICSID and called out for their corrupt behavior. Financial penalties/compensation need to be awarded to AVZ.

You dont open your house to thieves and complain about being robbed and thats what Felix has done with his government.

There is no doubt that there are many honorable people in the DRC we just need to support them where we can.

Regards,

SilentOne
On exactly the same page here, but it's a sham how the arbitration processes take so long with a time sensitive issue such as this.
Already the Chinese parasites have moved in to the point where it's impossible to extract them.
All we can do is wait now not only for the various rulings but for the inevitable multiple appeals the China backed Congolese criminals will lodge. Years of shit ahead.
I hope we can push things like emergency orders to the limits and rack up a good amount of fines which are payable to force the DRC's hand in order for them to approach us before time with with some sort of fair settlement resolution.
I'm my view management should cut off all negotiations and push ICC/ICSID hard until they are forced to come to the party of their own volition and until such time ignore their bullshit, lies and stalling tactics except to counter the disinformation they'll spew.
 
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Roon

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What people and countries forget that if you sign up / have membership to International Bodies such as the ICC & ICSID its all in - you cant simply ignore ruling due to the fact that it doesn't suit you - if you want to deal with the international community then you simply need to be an adult about things and put your big boy pants on.

The DRC want to have their cake and eat it - they are happy to take/embezzle international investment/money but sook when action is taken against them and claim to be the victim when their hands get caught in the cookie jar.

The corruption is called out for what it is - inaction is an endorsement of the corruption that is currently occurring. This whole spectacle clearly sits at Felix's feet.

I am so fed up with the DRC and their shenanigans that talking to them seems to be a waste of time - I am very much looking forward to them being formally reprimanded by the ICC & ICSID and called out for their corrupt behavior. Financial penalties/compensation need to be awarded to AVZ.

You dont open your house to thieves and complain about being robbed and thats what Felix has done with his government.

There is no doubt that there are many honorable people in the DRC we just need to support them where we can.

Regards,

SilentOne
The enforcability is a concern though, not to mention the additional years and years that this would take.

Even after a US court in 2021 confirmed the US600m DigOil ICC judgement from 2018, opening the possibility of DRC assets in the states being seized, where are we now?

Answer: DigOil hasn't received a cent yet, nearly 7 years on. Yet the international community is still dealing with DRC anyway, big boy pants or not.

In a judgement that could possibly be five times the size of that one, or even more, what's the likelihood of a speedy resolution and an actual delivery of those funds?

How many here will have passed on by the time we get funds, if ever?

Sure the ICSID might have some better leverage than the ICC towards enforcement, and the World Bank connection is useful given the DRC's needs, but let's not kid ourselves that this would be a timely or smooth process.

I guess we could leverage a huge judgement payment into some kind of a deal, but again this would be years and years away from fruition if having to await a conclusion of all our arbitration cases.
 
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SilentOne

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The enforcability is a concern though, not to mention the additional years and years that this would take.

Even after a US court in 2021 confirmed the US600m DigOil ICC judgement from 2018, opening the possibility of DRC assets in the states being seized, where are we now?

Answer: DigOil hasn't received a cent yet, nearly 7 years on. Yet the international community is still dealing with DRC anyway, big boy pants or not.

In a judgement that could possibly be five times the size of that one, or even more, what's the likelihood of a speedy resolution and an actual delivery of those funds?

How many here will have passed on by the time we get funds, if ever?

Sure the ICSID might have some better leverage than the ICC towards enforcement, and the World Bank connection is useful given the DRC's needs, but let's not kid ourselves that this would be a timely or smooth process.

I guess we could leverage a huge judgement payment into some kind of a deal, but again this would be years and years away from fruition if having to await a conclusion of all our arbitration cases.
Roon,

I tend to be a Glass Half Full type of guy - ICSID outcomes for both Tanzania and Gambia fills me with hope.

I dont believe it will drag on for years.

Regards,

SilentOne
 
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